Double Jobbers Out!

galwayrush

Nevore wrote: »

Was walking in town today in the O'Connell St. area and saw a few stickers with this slogan on those horrible grey plastic bins.
What's it all about?

Which City / Town ? :pac:

CreepingDeath

krudler wrote: »

It is a skillful trade that the select few who have spent years perfecting their craft want to protect.

There's no "skill" in being a taxi driver, in fact it tends to be a job for those with absolutely no marketable skills whatsoever.

Taxi driving is a low income job across the world, but the uneducated idiots think that they can go back to the good old days of regulation to restrict the supply to the consumer to inflate their wages.

scrapsmac

I believe its called Jobbers or Yobbers... it might be a soft J. Apparently you double shift the same taxi. It's supposed to be wild!

arybvtcw0eolkf

PCPhoto wrote: »

Dont get me wrong - taxi's if properly regulated - can provide a good service....but to be honest they are over priced

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a professional photographer?..

Its a bit rich (pun) when a photographer points the finger and accuses a taxi driver, or anyone else for that matter as being "over priced".

Recently four passport sized photos - anything from €14-€20!.. No developing, 'snap - computer - printer' 2 minutes, no skills and me walking away feeling like I've been assraped.

Recent school photos - don't get me started on that one!.

Thank God when I got married a photographer friend covered the wedding as a present.

But anyway 'Double Jobbers Out' - seen those stickers on the rear window's of taxi's a lot in Dublin.. Its a pity their not putting them on the front window's, because I think thats the kind of cab driver I'd rather avoid.

krudler

xzanti wrote: »

The driving or the begrudgery?

They often do both together, tell me that isnt an art in itself. Trying to grab a breakfast roll and a copy of The Sun while being illegaly parked should be a national sport.

melekalikimaka

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a professional photographer?..

Its a bit rich (pun) when a photographer points the finger and accuses a taxi driver, or anyone else for that matter as being "over priced".

Recently four passport sized photos - anything from €14-€20!.. No developing, 'snap - computer - printer' 2 minutes, no skills and me walking away feeling like I've been assraped.

Recent school photos - don't get me started on that one!.

Thank God when I got married a photographer friend covered the wedding as a present.

But anyway 'Double Jobbers Out' - seen those stickers on the rear window's of taxi's a lot in Dublin.. Its a pity their not putting them on the front window's, because I think thats the kind of cab driver I'd rather avoid.

never seen a degree course in taxi driving...

sponsoredwalk

Some healthy racism from the Irish taxi community I see, this is why I
refuse to get into a taxi with a white man :pac: I'm much happier getting
the taxi driver to throw on some Nigerian music - usually Fela Kuti :cool:
instead of FM104

But yeah, err... Double Jobbers Out! :mad:

sponsoredwalk

This isn't really just more crap @ Nigerian taxi drivers is it? I've read some
horrible comments on other forums just now but it doesn't seem to be
solely focused on for'nurs...

Here's a comment on another forum I see the logic in & don't understand
why this would be an issue:

I am one of the ****wits who rushed into the buiss thinking that
common sence would dawn on Kathleen and she would issue no more
plates. I am a full time taxi driver who will have to look for a parttime job
to suppliment my taxi income.Now francis some people will call me double
jobbin scum but which is better for other drivers if I work two shifts extra
a week as a taxi driver or try to find something else to boost my pay.
http://irishtaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=3780.0

So is this anger & hatred @ double jobbers just ridiculous?

arybvtcw0eolkf

melekalikimaka wrote: »

never seen a degree course in taxi driving...

And a degree entitles you to a ton of money?.

Doesn't take a degree to point and shoot, stick your stuff on the computer, some processing and Bob's your uncle. And lets me honest about it, thats the majority of the work carried out by a photographer.

Turtyturd

krudler wrote: »

It is a skillful trade that the select few who have spent years perfecting their craft want to protect.

Yeah, the job is a step above doormen in terms of intelligence required to do it...I think using the word craft might be pushing it.

melekalikimaka

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

And a degree entitles you to a ton of money?.

Doesn't take a degree to point and shoot, stick your stuff on the computer, some processing and Bob's your uncle. And lets me honest about it, thats the majority of the work carried out by a photographer.

to be honest your talking out your proverbial. if you think thats all there is to being professional photographer well, I dont really know what else to say, If you honestly think it, justifying whats entailed is probably wasted on you, but I assure you, thats not all it is.

arybvtcw0eolkf

melekalikimaka wrote: »

to be honest your talking out your proverbial. if you think thats all there is to being professional photographer well, I dont really know what else to say, If you honestly think it, justifying whats entailed is probably wasted on you, but I assure you, thats not all it is.

You've just posted up a lot of nothing tbh.

Point, snap, process.. Maybe get your head around a bit of photoshop for the ugly people and your away in a hack, and you can charge what you like in a completely unregulated industry if your any way half talented.

Plus you can work a taxi on the side!.

Prove me wrong.

melekalikimaka

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

You've just posted up a lot of nothing tbh.

Point, snap, process.. Maybe get your head around a bit of photoshop for the ugly people and your away in a hack, and you can charge what you like in a completely unregulated industry if your any way half talented.

Plus you can work a taxi on the side!.

Prove me wrong.

i'm studying a degree in photography. i could possibly send you the subjects I study, the theories we learn, would that be enough. yes its an unregulated industry, your also only referring to one small element of photography, portraits, yes you can work as a taxi driver on the side, sure you can work as anything on the side.

All i'm saying is, comparing pricings of a taxi, and the work of a photographer, is comparing chalk and cheese

Nodin

I have to say that of all the possible ways this could have gone off topic, I never would have pictured this....

arybvtcw0eolkf

Nodin wrote: »

I have to say that of all the possible ways this could have gone off topic, I never would have pictured this....

:pac:

redeight

Lets not lose our focus on the bigger picture !

Jumpy

Nodin wrote: »

I have to say that of all the possible ways this could have gone off topic, I never would have pictured this....

Someone really has to shutter up.

Nodin

Jumpy wrote: »

Someone really has to shutter up.

I think the debate is needed, but we shouldn't just zoom in on the negatives.

AntiMatter

I don't like the way this thread is developing.

krudler

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

And a degree entitles you to a ton of money?.

Doesn't take a degree to point and shoot, stick your stuff on the computer, some processing and Bob's your uncle. And lets me honest about it, thats the majority of the work carried out by a photographer.

A sh1t photographer maybe. Sure film directors,all they do is tell people where to point a camera, music conductors only wave a stick about, sure all jobs are easy why does anyone deserve to be paid for anything :rolleyes:

Donkey Oaty

krudler wrote: »

A sh1t photographer maybe.

That sounds highly specialised.

redeight

Isn't it time we took a U-turn ? After all we can't afford to take short cuts with issues as taxing as these.

arybvtcw0eolkf

krudler wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Dammit I hate when they look away just when I take the photo.

Ya'd know you hadn't a photographic degree!.

Degsy

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

Dammit I hate when they look away just when I take the photo.

Ya'd know you hadn't a photographic degree!.

"Sorry Lads..if you havnt got a degree you'e not coming in!"

gizmo

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

Dammit I hate when they look away just when I take the photo.

Ya'd know you hadn't a photographic degree!.

Careful with the sarcasm Henley Many Lip, melekalikimaka might snap...

amacachi

My name is URL wrote: »

Is it seriously a taxi driver thing? That's fcuking rich if true. Who do they think they are to have any say over who can get into the business, even if it is part time? Nothing stopping those losers from taking up a second job if they feel so hard done by.

They loved a "free market" when it was only a few of them able to get in, they don't like it as much when barriers to entry are removed.

Coriolanus

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

This isn't really just more crap @ Nigerian taxi drivers is it? I've read some
horrible comments on other forums just now but it doesn't seem to be
solely focused on for'nurs...

Here's a comment on another forum I see the logic in & don't understand
why this would be an issue:



So is this anger & hatred @ double jobbers just ridiculous?

That forum is nuts. I think this lad is Scottish...

ooh so now we is inte a pissin kontest
well i spent a week in me van te stop all dees c***s gittin plates
an i had te snare pigins frum in frunt o de korpo offig an rost dem on de engin o de skud
so i cud keep me enrgy up fer shoutin at de korpo
an drink watter oot o de puddils so i wuddnt die
i had te ****e in de bin on de keeys
an by de wey
wy did ye go on protists
was yer socilist hart not pleesed dat de prolitariat waz bean givin de oppertunity o betterin der lot?

frank d sociopath

krudler

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

Dammit I hate when they look away just when I take the photo.

Ya'd know you hadn't a photographic degree!.

I have a camera on my phone, I point and click, guess that makes me a photographer then

PCPhoto

Henley Many Lip wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a professional photographer?..

Its a bit rich (pun) when a photographer points the finger and accuses a taxi driver, or anyone else for that matter as being "over priced".

Recently four passport sized photos - anything from €14-€20!.. No developing, 'snap - computer - printer' 2 minutes, no skills and me walking away feeling like I've been assraped.

Recent school photos - don't get me started on that one!.

Thank God when I got married a photographer friend covered the wedding as a present.

But anyway 'Double Jobbers Out' - seen those stickers on the rear window's of taxi's a lot in Dublin.. Its a pity their not putting them on the front window's, because I think thats the kind of cab driver I'd rather avoid.

Yes - I am a professional photographer - but I dont deal with the general public (Newspapers/Magazines and businesses would be my clients).... and I certainly understand what you are saying by some "professional" photographers charging huge prices (for me it would be those involved in special occasions - like weddings/portraits)

I might be wrong but my point earlier was about proper regulation - which should result in a decent affordable service, for me the base rate is too high for a short journey ..... if you want to go from one end of O'Connell Street to the other end it will cost approx €5.

As for the passport sized photo's - I've seen some of the machines that do them for €5-€7 (Which is still overpriced in my opinion) ....or even worst case - take the pic yourself on a mobile phone and get it printed in a shop.

Yes - the photography industry is - for the most part - unregulated ....it is possible for someone to buy camera equipment and start claiming they are a professional - but if they mess up a job they risk loosing everything (clients can sue).... and the photography industry does have its fair share of "double jobbers" .

there's not a whole lot that can be done to stop them - if someone wants to hire a part-time photographer because they are "cheaper" - thats their perogative ..... but if they complain about not getting a good job done...then they wont get sympathy from me.

John_Rambo

I worked as a photographer, still do sometimes, but work mainly in graphics now. I can see where Makikomi is coming from. The appearance of affordable amazing digital SLR cameras and the celtic tiger made a lot of people call themselves professional photographers. These are the point and shooters.

This recession will sort out the ones that studied photography and the ones that didn't. Photographers will have to be dynamic and bloody good at what they are doing, they will need to fall back on their training in studio, small, medium, and large format photography.

I have friends that call themselves photographers, they have all the gear, EOS 1 D camera bodies, super bright lenses etc.. but they are dire dire dire photographers and they are not working in the business any more. Have a look at what's available online, I picked up a one year old Canon 5D for a third of the price it was brand new.

(Makikomi, I have done a few body builders portfolios too!! It's all in the lighting!)