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Aborted landing

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 TrackBarChaser


    Of course there are plenty of things that can shake a pilot and yes something could have happened in this particular case, but from my own experience if a member of the crew is shaken it's not a great idea to go on the P/A to the pax. Let the other crew member speak to them or if that's not possible compose yourself and try not to sound shook!
    Also, the pilot in question may have just sounded a little distracted when addressing the pax that day, it's a busy/high pressure situation.
    It's a pretty small point anyway, all that matters is getting everyone on the ground safely!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Of course there are plenty of things that can shake a pilot and yes something could have happened in this particular case, but from my own experience if a member of the crew is shaken it's not a great idea to go on the P/A to the pax. Let the other crew member speak to them or if that's not possible compose yourself and try not to sound shook!
    Also, the pilot in question may have just sounded a little distracted when addressing the pax that day, it's a busy/high pressure situation.
    It's a pretty small point anyway, all that matters is getting everyone on the ground safely!
    Agreed. I was only playing devil's advocate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Experienced two of these this morning on a Ryanair flight from Dublin to East Midlands.

    First time we were pretty low before we pulled up, and after we ascended the pilot said there was a plane blocking the runway and he couldn't land. "It's very common"

    Is it? Seems a little odd that they'd get that far down without the runway being clear.

    Second time wasn't as low. But we flew around after that for about half an hour. The pilot said there was a technical problem, but they hoped to get it sorted out soon. Little bit worrying.

    Anyway, managed to land safely in the end.

    Any idea what it could have been?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    it may have been due to the aircraft already on the ground had the problem,i have heard of aircraft flying by to confirm gear down position,maybe a dodgy ldg gear indication on your flight,bit unlikely as the NG has primary and secondary sensors on all the gears so my guess is only speculation!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Qantas


    Aer Arann flight RE-3296 had landing gear prob yesterday after take off from DUB entered hold to do checks then declared emergancy but later downgraded it to PAN-PAN and landed safely on 28 with emergancy services following(at a good distance by request of pilot)
    Just wait for the press to get the story and blow it out of all porpotion:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭bandit197


    I experienced a go around in Dub a few years back. It was a short RYR flight from Stansted.
    On the decent the cabin crew were having difficulties with a couple who would not put their young child in the seat provided for them. The mother wanted to hold the child. Eventually the Captain was informed and he came over the PA and explained that legally he could not land the plane until everyone was secured. The cabin crew kept trying to reason with the woman but to no avail, I could see we were inside the perimeter of the airport when the message was passed to the Captain that the child was unsecured and he performed a go around (amazing thrust from those engines when they are stretched out a bit).
    He came on the PA again on the climb out and explained to the couple that he had missed his assigned slot for landing and that their antics would probably affect flight times for the rest of the day. He said he had limited fuel on board and could not attempt many more go around's and that they must put the child in the seat. Needless to say the rest of us on the plane were ready to put the child in the seat for her but eventually she seen sense and we landed.
    The couple were held on the plane as we disembarked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭AfterDusk


    bandit197 wrote: »
    I experienced a go around in Dub a few years back. It was a short RYR flight from Stansted.
    On the decent the cabin crew were having difficulties with a couple who would not put their young child in the seat provided for them. The mother wanted to hold the child. Eventually the Captain was informed and he came over the PA and explained that legally he could not land the plane until everyone was secured. The cabin crew kept trying to reason with the woman but to no avail, I could see we were inside the perimeter of the airport when the message was passed to the Captain that the child was unsecured and he performed a go around (amazing thrust from those engines when they are stretched out a bit).
    He came on the PA again on the climb out and explained to the couple that he had missed his assigned slot for landing and that their antics would probably affect flight times for the rest of the day. He said he had limited fuel on board and could not attempt many more go around's and that they must put the child in the seat. Needless to say the rest of us on the plane were ready to put the child in the seat for her but eventually she seen sense and we landed.
    The couple were held on the plane as we disembarked.

    This is exactly the type of crap FR cabin crew have to put up with on a daily basis. Hope those pax were met by the police!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Due to thick Fog in Knock today Ryanair flight RYR1FQ(EI-DPO) made a missed approach.(CATII ILS Approach).Climbed to 3000ft,sharp left hand turn to establish outbound for a second attempt and landed.A Cessna P210N(N23KY) also performed a missed approach at the very last minute at Knock on Monday in thick Fog,he then tryed an approach to 09(VOR-DME approach) but was unsuccessful,he diverted to Sligo.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    neil2304 wrote: »
    This is exactly the type of crap FR cabin crew have to put up with on a daily basis. Hope those pax were met by the police!

    I would paraphrase this to say
    "This is exactly the type of crap cabin crew have to put up with on a daily basis"

    Along with the classics:
    "whats that city down there?", "can't the pilot just take a shortcut?" or "why is it so bumpy?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Do the IAA have or lease a calibration aircraft? Seen a white jet,maybe a 732,do a near touch and go at the bottom of 28 this evening. No readily identifiable insignia but she came back around 15 minutes later and landed on 28.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    Wouldnt imagine it would be as big or expensive to run as a 737, i've seen glidescope calibrations done by Cessna Caravans or Jetstreams but never a jet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    lord lucan wrote: »
    Do the IAA have or lease a calibration aircraft? Seen a white jet,maybe a 732,do a near touch and go at the bottom of 28 this evening. No readily identifiable insignia but she came back around 15 minutes later and landed on 28.

    Covered here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055879294


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    pclancy wrote: »
    Wouldnt imagine it would be as big or expensive to run as a 737, i've seen glidescope calibrations done by Cessna Caravans or Jetstreams but never a jet.

    I only got a brief glimpse out the windows of T2 at it,caught my eye as it took off again. Appeared quite large but may well have been one of the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    mayotom wrote: »
    Oh I've had a few, mainly in heavy crosswinds, two in Particular in Helsinki and St Petersburg (LED) where they got it down on the third attempt

    Also a couple of times with Monarch who always seem to come up with the strangest excuses, one time was Rabbits on the Runway

    had an incident on Jet2 from Malaga, when the engine burst into flames on take off, but we were beyond the point of no return and he took it down in Gibralter

    That would have been even better if it was the Monarch that landed at Gibralter . :D
    David086 wrote: »
    Rabbits on the Runway

    hahaha brilliant.

    Try aligators in Florida.
    I heard of one hour builder who complained there was aligator sunning himself on runway he had lined up on.
    They had to wait for animal control to move the beast.
    amiable wrote: »
    I've seen Concord training in Shannon where it landed for a few seconds and would take off again almost straight away. I think it was around 1996. Some noise from it

    Ahh happy days.
    Remember Air France were in there training.

    Every time they did go around some of the cars in the car parks next to airport runways would have alarms going off.
    Alos knew someone that lived near end of runway and hated fact they started around 8 am.

    Beautiful beast to watch takeoff, on a par with watching the Condor lumber into the sky. :)

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭MonkeyDoo


    Had a go-around 2 years ago at EIDW Dublin airport.

    Apparently pilot said airtraffic control let him know their may be a carcass on the runway and to go-around.

    The plane before hand might have ran over a few rabbits. Amazes me how rabbits seem to like airports. Maybe they are plane buffs.


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