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500mm fixed lens

  • 21-12-2010 6:26pm
    #1
    Andrew42
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Hi, I'm thinking of chucking €100-150 away on a 500mm lens for my 450D, some names of never heard of, samyang, falcon, etc.
    Has anybody any experience of these brands?
    Obviously I'd love a 35-500mm (ish) "L" series (when I win the lotto!) but I just want to fool around with a long lens for a while before investing heavily in a more upmarket brand.


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  • #2
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Chucking away your money sounds about right.


  • #3
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    You might be better off getting a half decent telescope and mounting your camera.


  • #4
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    i assume you are talking about a mirror lens - which is normally around f8 as a max aperture.

    not very good when you have low light - only suitable for bright days...also I believe they also give a halo type effect in the bokeh.


  • #5
    Andrew42
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Andrew42


    That bad huh?


  • #6
    Andrew42
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Andrew42


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    i assume you are talking about a mirror lens - which is normally around f8 as a max aperture.

    not very good when you have low light - only suitable for bright days...also I believe they also give a halo type effect in the bokeh.

    The samyang(?) is a mirror type but the falcon is a big long fixed jobbie. I figured they'd be pretty rubbish based on the "You get what you pay for" principle.
    What's BOKEH???


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  • #7
    Ricky91t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    If I were you, I'd go for a sigma 400 f/5.6 or something. I was shooting today with my 100-300 f/4 and a 1.4 TC (making it 420mm f/5.6) and it performed well in the lighting. Although the 100-300 is meant to be a pretty good lens...


  • #8
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    I think theres something wrong with "35-500mm L lens" idea.... :pac:


  • #9
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Andrew42 wrote: »
    What's BOKEH???

    I think you need to figure this out before you go spending any more money on lenses.


  • #10
    Andrew42
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Andrew42


    5uspect wrote: »
    I think you need to figure this out before you go spending any more money on lenses.

    <snip>


  • #11
    Andrew42
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Andrew42


    challengemaster wrote: »
    I think theres something wrong with "35-500mm L lens" idea.... :pac:

    Didn't mean those exact lengths which is why I put "ish" in brackets after it?

    Yiz are all soooo wonderfully helpful.


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  • #12
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    sigma do a 170-500mm which might be worth considering.

    Bokeh is the blur in the background of your pic....lenses like a 500mm f8 tend to give a halo or ring type design in the background of the images....some people like it - some dont.

    I've heard the Canon 35-350 is not meant to be the sharpest (I cant say anything about the sigma 170-500mm ... prob not pin sharp either)


  • #13
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Andrew42 wrote: »
    Stick your superior attitude up your hole pal. Muppet.

    WTF? You come here looking for advise, which I provided, and it turns out you don't know the first thing about optics and you jump down the throat when it is suggested you learn a little more before wasting your money.

    Nice guy ain't ya?


  • #14
    CabanSail
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 9,047 CMod ✭✭✭✭CabanSail


    A short holiday has been won by Andrew42.


  • #15
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Andrew42 wrote: »
    What's BOKEH???
    the shot below was shot with a mirror lens - what PCPhoto is referring to is the out of focus doughnut shaped highlights caused by the optics.

    alsaa05.jpg


  • #16
    Diabhal_Glas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Diabhal_Glas


    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikekingphoto/3807893270/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikekingphoto/4080938587/

    Two interesting flickr shot from the one and only British Sports Photog - Mike King


  • #17
    pullandbang
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭pullandbang


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    I've heard the Canon 35-350 is not meant to be the sharpest

    I picked up a 35-350 L and it's not bad. Haven't really had a chance to use it much yet but the few shots I've taken are ok. Will give it a rattle over the holidays and get some shots posted.


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