Mario Balotelli

Dolph Starbeam

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Interesting to see The Fonz there for Villa guess he is still only 19 and was very highly rated (still is im sure). tbh though I'm more of a fan of Albrighton but i guess at 21 he's old for this list. Seems to be only one player from ever side in that list, wonder is only the highest rated young player at the club considerd for the list so the overall order may not actually be meant as an indication of best apart from the top few as some clubs could have a few exceptional yooungsters.

side question looking at his name on the list, is Bojan likely to be on the move? might not be getting too much time at Barca considering the talent they have available to them.

edit: scrath that just noticed a few teams have more than one but they arent always who youd expect.

There was talk of that but he has just signed a new contract until 2015 thank christ.

André - Dinamo Kiev
Mario Balotelli - Manchester City
Bebé - Manchester United
Yacine Brahimi - Stade Rennes
Sergio Canales - Real Madrid
Diego Contento - Bayern München
Philippe Coutinho - Internazionale
David de Gea - Atlético Madrid
Luuk de Jong - FC Twente
Nathan Delfouneso - Aston Villa
Mattia Destro – Genoa
Douglas Costa - Shakhtar Donetsk
Alan Dzagoev - CSKA Moskou
Christian Eriksen – Ajax
Mario Gotze - Borussia Dortmund
Eden Hazard - Lille OSC
Abel Hernandez - Palermo
Gaël Kakuta - Chelsea
Bojan Krkic - FC Barcelona
Toni Kroos - Bayern München
Adem Ljajic - Fiorentina
Romelu Lukaku - Anderlecht
Federico Macheda - Manchester United
Joël Matip - Schalke 04
Fran Mérida - Atlético Madrid
Ezequiel Muñoz - Palermo
Musacchio - Villareal
Yann M'Vila - Rennes
Sotirios Ninis - Panathinaikos
Dani Pacheco - Liverpool
Marcus Pedersen - Vitesse
Miralem Pjanic - Olympique Lyon
Rafael - Manchester United
Gastón Ramírez - Bologna
Riviere - Saint Etienne
James Rodríguez - FC Porto
Mamadou Sakho - Paris Saint-Germain
Eduardo Salvio - Benfica
André Schürrle - FSV Mainz
Jack Wilshere - Arsenal

There is a lot of good players on that list, of the ones i've seen the highlighted will all be top top players in the next few season.

It is pretty hard to pick a top player at this age too as some of them don't get to play every week. I'd probably give it to De Gea, what a brilliant keeper for his age.

Balotelli's comments won't win him many fans either.

JohnnyRyan99

Lukaku is going to be an absolute star! I possibly would have given it to him, so important to Anderlecht despite only going 17 this year! But i suppose he is very young and will probably win it before he's done!

Glad to see Balo win it! As Arch say's he may be a cúnt, but he's OUR cúnt!:)

Ordinary man

He'll fit in well at his current club - thinks he's world class but has done sod all yet:rolleyes:

karma_

Ordinary man wrote: »

He'll fit in well at his current club - thinks he's world class but has done sod all yet:rolleyes:

3 Serie A titles and a Champions league medal.

speedboatchase

MOG7 wrote: »

There was talk of that but he has just signed a new contract until 2015 thank christ.



There is a lot of good players on that list, of the ones i've seen the highlighted will all be top top players in the next few season.

It is pretty hard to pick a top player at this age too as some of them don't get to play every week. I'd probably give it to De Gea, what a brilliant keeper for his age.

Balotelli's comments won't win him many fans either.

Don't discount Schurrle, he's bloody brilliant. As for Balotelli, love the guy and especially his hat

Mikeyt086

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kippy

karma_ wrote: »

3 Serie A titles and a Champions league medal.

Do you want to go into the amount of really really ****e players that have similiar/better medal hauls but have never graced the player/young player of the season awards......

Look, think its a joke award to a joke player.
This guy is way way more trouble than he is worth to any club but clubs will continue to lavish him with wads of cash, increasing his self worth.
Its not too late for the guy to cop on, but I personally think he has the wrong people around him and a serious attitude problem.

Seaneh

kippy wrote: »

Do you want to go into the amount of really really ****e players that have similiar/better medal hauls but have never graced the player/young player of the season awards......

Go on, name one more player who played 86 games and scored 20 goals in a top league between the ages of 17 and 19, winning 3 league medals and a european cup.

Good luck on that one boss.

kippy wrote: »

Look, think its a joke award to a joke player.
This guy is way way more trouble than he is worth to any club

All I can say to that is L-O-Fecking-L.

Dolph Starbeam

speedboatchase wrote: »

Don't discount Schurrle, he's bloody brilliant. As for Balotelli, love the guy and especially his hat

I must keep an eye out for hi, the names i didn't mention is because i simply haven't seen them play or not enough to judge. Holty be is one for Mainz who has impressed me the odd time i've seen them, i'll keep an eye out for Schurrle next time.

kippy

Seaneh wrote: »

Go on, name one more player who played 86 games and scored 20 goals in a top league between the ages of 17 and 19, winning 3 league medals and a european cup.

Good luck on that one boss.



All I can say to that is L-O-Fecking-L.

Messi off the top of my head, but thats a totally different league.
I suspect there are a few more as well but cant be arsed trying to come up with them.
The initial stipulation was 3 league medals, one CL.

Seaneh

kippy wrote: »

Messi off the top of my head, but thats a totally different league.
I suspect there are a few more as well but cant be arsed trying to come up with them.
The initial stipulation was 3 league medals, one CL.

Nope. Messi had 70 appearances in is first 3 seasons, he did score more goals ( 26) but he only played 13 champions league matches, where as Balotelli played 14 champions league matches by then. Including 8 in the season inter won it (Messi only played 6 in the 05/06 season, when Barca won it).

The stats are similar though, would would lead one to believe that Balotelli is just as good in the years 17-19 as Messi was. Also, if he scores 8 more league goals he will match Messi's total for his 4th season at Barca.


But, sure, he's ****. A joke of a player.

JPA

But Seaneh, don't you think his mentality will be his undoing and stop him reaching the top?

Seaneh

JPA wrote: »

But Seaneh, don't you think his mentality will be his undoing and stop him reaching the top?

Nope.
He's not seen out partying, he doesn't refuse to train. He's obviously on a different planet to most people, but so what, a lot of footballer before him were absolute head the balls and managed to have great careers.

Dolph Starbeam

Seaneh wrote: »

Go on, name one more player who played 86 games and scored 20 goals in a top league between the ages of 17 and 19, winning 3 league medals and a european cup.

Good luck on that one boss.



All I can say to that is L-O-Fecking-L.

For that amount of goals off the top of my head, Fernando Torres, about the same age when he was banging in goals for Athletico, he was also named captain of the side at only 19, this was also when Athletico were a mid-table side in La Liga. Compared to Balotelli who during his seasons at Inter were probably the Serie A's poorest standard in a long time. He is a very good player, no doubt, but i still think, as has been said he is more trouble than he is worth. His comment about Wilshere might have been a bit of a joke but it also shows a lot of immaturity and a lack of respect towards his fellow pros.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Seaneh wrote: »

Nope.
He's not seen out partying, he doesn't refuse to train. He's obviously on a different planet to most people, but so what, a lot of footballer before him were absolute head the balls and managed to have great careers.

He's a completely immature little whinge bag who only plays properly when he wants to.

I think he has the potential to be a start, but he needs to get his head right before he's mentioned in the same sentence as Messi. And I don't even like Messi!

JPA

Seaneh wrote: »

Nope.
He's not seen out partying, he doesn't refuse to train. He's obviously on a different planet to most people, but so what, a lot of footballer before him were absolute head the balls and managed to have great careers.

I'm not talking about arrogance or anything, I'm talking about tantrums on the field and his ability to get red cards.

Seaneh

Torres had less games and slightly more goals at that age.

That's neither here nor there.
There are NO players whit that record who go on to become "joke players".

The only two listed so far are world class!

JPA

baz2009 wrote: »

He's a completely immature little whinge bag who only plays properly when he wants to.

I think he has the potential to be a start, but he needs to get his head right before he's mentioned in the same sentence as Messi. And I don't even like Messi!

You don't like Messi? You should mention that from time to time...

3hn2givr7mx1sc

JPA wrote: »

You don't like Messi? You should mention that from time to time...

Yeah I don't mention it enough, tbh.:P

Johner

The chap is a nutter, but he is very talented and has the potential to become a star which I really do think he will become.

Plus he owns the coolest hat ever.

Mitch Connor

Seaneh wrote: »

Torres had less games and slightly more goals at that age.

That's neither here nor there.
There are NO players whit that record who go on to become "joke players".

The only two listed so far are world class!

Emile Heskey.

Premiership 96-98 (ages 18-20)

70 appearances. 20 goals.

Francis Jeffers.

Time with Everton: 98-01 (17-20)

50 Appearances. 18 goals.

Seaneh

And they won how many league titles and european cups?

JohnnyRyan99

I know it's not a top league but Lukaku 15-17 for Anderlecht 52 apps and 24 goals!... Between the ages 15 and 17! I think this guy is going to be the ****!!

Mitch Connor

Seaneh wrote: »

And they won how many league titles and european cups?

You mean the team of superstars they were in, in a league that had its biggest teams prior to their arrival ripped apart by match fixing scandals? Nothing.

I don't care what a team has won when it comes to discussing the talents and abilities of a player.

George Best (and many other players) won nothing at International level, never even played in the WC... must have been a terrible player cause he doesn't have international achievements on his CV. Fabregas must be crap - never been a key member of a side that has won big trophies. Jonny Greening must be better than Fabregas, he has a CL medal. O'Shea must be one of the best players ever - just look at the amount of league titles and Cup winner medals he has.

Jeffers and Heskey have a similar scoring record to Baloteli in a top league at the same ages - and didn't go on to be world beaters. Hell, their scoring records were in teams that were not dicking all over the leagues they were playing in so I would say their scoring record is more impressive than Baloteli's.

(for the record, I think he has fantastic potential and can be one of the best in the world)

Mitch Connor

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

I know it's not a top league but Lukaku 15-17 for Anderlecht 52 apps and 24 goals!... Between the ages 15 and 17! I think this guy is going to be the ****!!

:rolleyes:Oh Johnny.... how silly of you - he hasn't got a CL winner medal so he can't be that talented.:rolleyes:

Seaneh

Mitch Connor wrote: »

You mean the team of superstars they were in, in a league that had its biggest teams prior to their arrival ripped apart by match fixing scandals? Nothing.

I don't care what a team has won when it comes to discussing the talents and abilities of a player.

George Best (and many other players) won nothing at International level, never even played in the WC... must have been a terrible player cause he doesn't have international achievements on his CV. Fabregas must be crap - never been a key member of a side that has won big trophies. Jonny Greening must be better than Fabregas, he has a CL medal. O'Shea must be one of the best players ever - just look at the amount of league titles and Cup winner medals he has.

Jeffers and Heskey have a similar scoring record to Baloteli in a top league at the same ages - and didn't go on to be world beaters. Hell, their scoring records were in teams that were not dicking all over the leagues they were playing in so I would say their scoring record is more impressive than Baloteli's.

(for the record, I think he has fantastic potential and can be one of the best in the world)

There is a massive difference between two players who were starting for mid/lower table teams and players who force their way into the first team of one of the bets clubs in Europe at the age of 17/18/19.

Messi, Pato, Balotelli, Fabregas, Rooney, those are the types of players who I am talking about.

Heskey and Jeffers, fannying about in a mid table team, are not on the same level. Trying to say it's harder to get game time at a worse club is retarded!

JohnnyRyan99

Mitch Connor wrote: »

:rolleyes:Oh Johnny.... how silly of you - he hasn't got a CL winner medal so he can't be that talented.:rolleyes:

What was i thinking!! Comment revoked!

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Seaneh wrote: »

There is a massive difference between two players who were starting for mid/lower table teams and players who force their way into the first team of one of the bets clubs in Europe at the age of 17/18/19.

Messi, Pato, Balotelli, Fabregas, Rooney, those are the types of players who I am talking about.

Heskey and Jeffers, fannying about in a mid table team, are not on the same level. Trying to say it's harder to get game time at a worse club is retarded!

It'd be harder to score that many goals for a mid-table team than it would for a title-challenging team, obviously enough.
Maybe you should comprehend posts properly before you go calling them retarded.

Seaneh

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

I know it's not a top league but Lukaku 15-17 for Anderlecht 52 apps and 24 goals!... Between the ages 15 and 17! I think this guy is going to be the ****!!

I've said it a few times already that I think he will be a monster. He has all the physical attributes and seems to be pretty good with his feet too. Still a lot of developing in him, but he should be a star.

Paully D

Thankfully he'll be back in Italy before the end of the summer and we won't have to listen to much of him anymore.

Seaneh

baz2009 wrote: »

It'd be harder to score that many goals for a mid-table team than it would for a title-challenging team, obviously enough.
Maybe you should comprehend posts properly before you go calling them retarded.

It's also easier to get game time at a lower/mid table team, which was my point.
As for it being easier to score at a bigger club, thats not always true. Some players thrive at a small club where they are the focal point of an attack but don't tend to do well at big clubs where they are expected to contribute more than just goals.

James Beatie, Darren Bent, Kevin Philips, Sergio Pellissier, Cristiano Lucarelli, Daniel Guiza, Dijbril Cisse... I could go on. All score bag loads when they are at small clubs but don't cut the mustard when on the big stage.

JohnnyRyan99

Seaneh wrote: »

I've said it a few times already that I think he will be a monster. He has all the physical attributes and seems to be pretty good with his feet too. Still a lot of developing in him, but he should be a star.

Ye he strikes me as one of those guys that is a serious Raw talent! He's messy and clumsy but he's just so powerful he gets away with it at times! If he tightens up his game and enhances his game physicaly(which will clearly come with age) he is going to be a serious monster! And there is NO better word than monster! He's a freaking oxe at 17!!!

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Seaneh wrote: »

Go on, name one more player who played 86 games and scored 20 goals in a top league between the ages of 17 and 19, winning 3 league medals and a european cup.

Good luck on that one boss.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Emile Heskey.

Premiership 96-98 (ages 18-20)

70 appearances. 20 goals.

Francis Jeffers.

Time with Everton: 98-01 (17-20)

50 Appearances. 18 goals.

Proven wrong there.

IMO, it'd be easier to score a goal when you have some of the best players in the league supplying passes to you as a striker.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

Ye he strikes me as one of those guys that is a serious Raw talent! He's messy and clumsy but he's just so powerful he gets away with it at times! If he tightens up his game and enhances his game physicaly(which will clearly come with age) he is going to be a serious monster! And there is NO better word than monster! He's a freaking oxe at 17!!!

And he is class in FIFA11.:P

JohnnyRyan99

baz2009 wrote: »

And he is class in FIFA11.:P

And a Football Manger ledge while we're at it!!:pac:

Peyton Manning

baz2009 wrote: »

And he is class in FIFA11.:P

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

And a Football Manger ledge while we're at it!!:pac:

He's also got cracking potential in the master league in PES.

The Holy Trinity :eek:

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Tom_Brady wrote: »

He's also got cracking potential in the master league in PES.

The Holy Trinity :eek:

If he's not a Ballon d'Or contendr in two seasons then I give up.:pac:

Seaneh

Tom_Brady wrote: »

He's also got cracking potential in the master league in PES.

The Holy Trinity :eek:

Wait, isn't that like the curse of all curses?
Paging Cherno Samba to stardom, paging Cherno Samba...

eagle eye

Well Neymar is the best player in the World under 21 imo. But he is not in Europe or from Europe so he wouldn't be eligible for this thing.

Yann M'Vila is a defensive midfielder and I imagine they don't like to give it to players like that.

Alan Dzagoev or Christian Eriksen would be my choices given that they pick attacking footballers.

JohnnyRyan99

Seaneh wrote: »

Wait, isn't that like the curse of all curses?
Paging Cherno Samba to stardom, paging Cherno Samba...

TBF i always felt Cherno Samba was only an FM ledge very few aquire "The Holy Trinity" at such a young age!

But my word was Samba unbelievable in FM!!!

Seaneh

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

TBF i always felt Cherno Samba was only an FM ledge very few aquire "The Holy Trinity" at such a young age!

But my word was Samba unbelievable in FM!!!

By all accounts he could have been amazing, was physically exactly what you'd want, his under age records will probably never be broken. If he was let leave Millwall at 16 when all and sundry were trying to sign him he could have been great but 3 years in league 2 stunted his development and when he was finally let leave at 19 it was too late. Playing second division in Greece now.

eagle eye

All that happened there was they got him mixed up with the Congolese footballer Chris Samba who is around the same age and is a top class centre back for Blackburn Rovers.;)

L'prof

Balotelli looks a very good player, but because of his temperament I don't think he'll ever reach his full potential. He's still young though, so he has plenty of time to cop on to himself!

pickarooney

Lukaku will go the way of Nii Lamptey IMO. I wouldn't wish it on him for the world but I'd be surpised if anyone remembers him in five years.

L'prof

pickarooney wrote: »

Lukaku will go the way of Nii Lamptey IMO. I wouldn't wish it on him for the world but I'd be surpised if anyone remembers him in five years.

I don't think he will, Lukaku is an absolute beast and is already being tempted by some of the biggest clubs in Europe!

pickarooney

L'prof wrote: »

I don't think he will, Lukaku is an absolute beast and is already being tempted by some of the biggest clubs in Europe!

I have to say I don't watch Belgian football and have never seen him play live but I'll see you in 2015 for a hat-eating contest.

L'prof

pickarooney wrote: »

I have to say I don't watch Belgian football and have never seen him play live but I'll see you in 2015 for a hat-eating contest.

So you're basing your assumption on the fact that they're both of African descent and both started their careers at Anderlecht?

x in the city

This guy is a slightly more talented version of el diouf

I had to LOL quite loud when he said only Messi was the best player in the world than him right now

serious, what is he on....clubs who pay obscene wages to guys like this are to blame for the state of the game now

GavRedKing

De Gea - A.Madrid would have got my vote, fine keeper and future Spanish number 1.

Edit : Although saying that Balotelli is a special player, he has all the ability and technique to be a top qaulity player. Attitude aside, he has it all really.

MGMTea

Dani Pacheco should've won, he is going to be some player in the future