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Rock & Metal bands that sing in Irish
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26-12-2010 7:37pm#1I started a similar thread in Teach na nGealt but I figured I might as well post it here too as I'm not too sure what the community is like over there. I don't post there often enough
Basically I'm a big fan of Rock & Metal when sung in a language other than English but I've yet to come across any Rock or Metal bands that sing in Irish. Do any exist?0
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In Extremo sing -As Gaeilge- and have done for a long time
and it's ''proper Gaelic''
not the watered down bollox that is taught in schools nowadays
but it's not every song that is sung in irish
they also sing in
latin
german
english
and a couple of ''lost'' european languages too
here is one of their best known songs As gaeilge
Enjoy
Corvus Corax another german band i'll try find a few of their as gaeilge song for you
Eluveitie are from switzerland and have an entire album in Gallic( i know it's not quite Gaeilge, but gaeilge originated from Gallic)
Mael Mórdha are irish and sing almost entirely As Gaeilge
Primordial are from dublin i think and sing mostly as Gaeilge
there i a few more gimme a minute and i'll find them
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I don't want to take this thread off down a different direction but I'm curious what you mean by this. Isn't the Irish taught in schools the same (more or less) as what is spoken in the Gaeltacht areas?
not necessarily in the 1950's or 60's the irish language was ''simplified''
by taking out and ''fixing'' the difficult to pronounce words and taking all the dialects and smashing them into one ''easy to learn package''
basically it made it easier to pronounce for english speaking population
but in doing so they destroyed proper spelling and pronunciation.
but a lot of the gaeltacht areas still retain their own dialects and only teach these in their schools.
now the likes of In Extremo use 16th - 17th century irish probably closest to the connemara dialectThat's interesting, I didn't know Gaulish was the same as Gallic.
OOPS i was getting confused
you're right it is Gaulish
i had to translate from a german site
Eluveitie sing in Gaulish
i taught they were saying Gälish which is german for irish
but it was gaülish which is german for Gaulish
they are by no means the same but around the time Gaulish was becoming extinct Scottich Gallic and Irish Gaeilge were developing and ''borrowed' alot of similarities from Gaulish
i hope that made sense my head is spinning now 0 -
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That's very interesting. I must ask my father about that. My only reference point is my own schooling which for primary school was done mostly through Irish so as far as I was concerned, the Irish I learnt was the Irish that people spoke. I've seen (or more appropriately heard) differences like the way that the dictionary will tell you bicycle is "rothair" but in my experience native speakers say "wyshicle" instead.reverenddave wrote: »not necessarily in the 1950's or 60's the irish language was ''simplified''
by taking out and ''fixing'' the difficult to pronounce words and taking all the dialects and smashing them into one ''easy to learn package''
basically it made it easier to pronounce for english speaking population
but in doing so they destroyed proper spelling and pronunciation.
Oh if only that was the case! I still cringe when I think back to the aural assault that Ulster Irish was when I was doing my Leaving Certreverenddave wrote:but a lot of the gaeltacht areas still retain their own dialects and only teach these in their schools.
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I think the key is that languages evolve and borrow from each other over timereverenddave wrote:Eluveitie sing in Gaulish
i taught they were saying Gälish which is german for irish
but it was gaülish which is german for Gaulish
they are by no means the same but around the time Gaulish was becoming extinct Scottich Gallic and Irish Gaeilge were developing and ''borrowed' alot of similarities from Gaulish
i hope that made sense my head is spinning now
. I still remember watching a YouTube video about the Manx language and being fascinated that I could more or less understand the speakers despite the fact that I'd never heard of the language before. It was only after doing some reading up on it I realised that it is closely related to Gaeilge. 0 -
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AaronEnnis wrote: »Corr Mhóna sing in Irish, great band on record and live.
www.myspace.com/corrmhona
Regarding the Primordial comment, their only full song in Irish is 'Fuil Ársa', on Imrama.
Beat me too it! Fantastic band is Corr Mhóna. Their ep is a feckin brilliant listen, I've almost worn the cd out at this stage 0 -
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I just posted this video in another thread but it's relevant here as well.
I'm not sure how accurate the translation from Gaulish to English is but it's interesting to see the similarity between certain Gaulish and Irish words e.g. "canami" (sing) and "canamid" (we sing) or "atron" (fathers) and "athair" (father).
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The only two I know would be
Could be a form of Celtic Rock?
This was released a few years back for Irish Awareness Week or something...0 -
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Cruachan also have a couple of songs in Irish. I saw a French band (Bran Barr) using what I took to be Gàidhlig for the title of some tracks, not sure if they actually sing in it.
And there are loads of more or less obscure French bands singing in Breton, which is related to Irish, and sort of similar (dubh translates as du in Breton).
However, on the subjects of Eluveitie using Gaulish, I'm a bit uneasy with that. Gaulish is indeed related to Irish, but not as nearly as Manx or even Breton. And while you'll always find bucketloads of so-called Gaulish dictionaries, I remember from my classes that not much is known for sure. Just like for many other languages, linguists indulge in heavy recontruction, leading to the publication of "Learn Gaulish in 3 weeks".
Unless the guys from Eluveitie are first-class linguists, I would not put too much faith in their Gaulish
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Motley Crue wrote: »Funny enough, I actually met Eluveitie on their support slot to Devildriver in the UK last November, got an interview with them, and asked this question...
The lyrics are often in the extinct language Gaulish. Eluveitie is Helvetic Gaulish for a word that originates from an area that is now Switzerland (which is where the band hail from if you like)
The lead vocalist Chrigel Glanzmann writes mostly all the lyrics and a fair percentage of the music and he's quite anti-Clerical and doesn't seem to like the Catholic Church in the slightest, he spoke a lot about the Church's oppression during the Middle Ages - paying for having sins absolved, that kind of stuff - and mentioned the fact that he studied Ancient Language and Histories at College. So I think, although I can't be 100%, that he might know something about Gaulish
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Sounds interesting, do you have any links?LaBaguette wrote: »And there are loads of more or less obscure French bands singing in Breton, which is related to Irish, and sort of similar (dubh translates as du in Breton).
As Gaulish is an extinct language I guess we'll never know. They could be singing grammatically perfect Gaulish or they could be way off what it used to sound like.LaBaguette wrote:Unless the guys from Eluveitie are first-class linguists, I would not put too much faith in their Gaulish
/rant
Interestingly when I Google Learn Gaulish in three weeks the fourth link is your post. It even ranks above posts on the official Eluveitie forum asking a similar question. 0 -
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@Motley : Damn, i should have done some research before posting that But still, I'm not completely at ease with songs written in a recontructed language.
@Malice : A good start would be Heol Telwen (Dark Sun in Breton). Most of their stuff is either in French or English (although with Breton titles), but some are in Breton. If you can't find it online, I'll have a look.
As for Gaulish, it's more the very limited number of actual texts in that language rather than the fact that it is extinct that makes it elusive, but I agree with you on that. And yes, I made up that title, but you would not have any trouble finding stuff along that line 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LhgbTKJAAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMnaO0yKhyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6VSTPranO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nur2DUl-Y4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfrYmUTJ_o
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