Birmingham vs. Manchester United (KO 20.00, SS1)

FlawedGenius

Two games in hand and United are 6 points ahead! Would of taken that back in September after a woeful start. All is good:D

MIN2511

dfx- wrote: »

Watched the whole game. From behind the sofa at times such was the quality. Utd never looked like scoring before the opener, after the first goal, they had no control, no possession, a scrappy midfield war full of miscontrolled play. Neither side dominated. They were hoofing it forward playing on the counter.

Both sides never looked like scoring - 0-0 would've been a fair result.

Who do you support again:rolleyes:

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Jaysus that was disheartening. After the dominance shown against Sunderland I was hoping for a good win tonight, but fcuk me that was fairly shocking. Defence was grand, a bg clusterfcuk for the goal, though. The midfield couldn't string two passes together and Rooney was absolute cack. Berbatov was the only thing slightly positive.

dfx-

MIN2511 wrote: »

Who do you support again:rolleyes:

Shamrock Rovers

Iago

niallo27 wrote: »

I didn't see anything wrong with the goal myself

Must be those new Scouse glasses you got for xmas....

Phillips fouled Ferdinand in the build up and Zigic clearly used his arm to help the ball on, but being honest there was no way either the linesman or referee could have seen either of those in real time and cest la vie.

United just weren't good enough to kill the game off tonight, much as they haven't been all season and it's just as well that everyone else is as bad as we are at the moment.

shadowcomplex

dfx- wrote: »

Watched the whole game. From behind the sofa at times such was the quality. Utd never looked like scoring before the opener, after the first goal, they had no control, no possession, a scrappy midfield war full of miscontrolled play. Neither side dominated. They were hoofing it forward playing on the counter.

Both sides never looked like scoring - 0-0 would've been a fair result.

Really stupid comment considering both teams did score, I mean how does berbatov scoring a goal for united make it look like we didnt look like scoring?

Necronomicon

Sickened. Whether or not Birmingham deserved a goal is irrelevant, it simply should not have stood. Though from a United point of view it was disappointing to see the ball constantly hoofed back to the Brum back four in a panic, very time it came near the box.

homerjay2005

big teams get all the decisions eh? goal should have been disallowed in 2 instances.

ffs.....2 points dropped in a game we should have been very comfortable in....

curry-muff

dfx- wrote: »

Shamrock Rovers

To be fair, you must be fairly comfortable having to watch matches from behind your sofa then

BERBA

Draw specialists , away form P8 W1 D7

niallk

Not looking forward to Mitch MOTM comp. Can only think of Berba to put in a top 3, maybe Vidic. The rest don't deserve a place.

BERBA

fergie cryin on sky at present :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dave!

BERBA wrote: »

Draw specialists , away form P8 W1 D7

P18 W10 L0

Havermeyer

Not a great performance overall tonight. I don't know how much having only one day off between playing two games had to do with that, but que sera sera.

Utd seriously need to sort out their away form. If any of the other teams in the top four put consistent runs together, and our away form continues in the same vein, we will be in trouble.

Mister men

Well done Birmingham. Deserved the draw.

Ordinary man

Carrick, giggs, anderson and rooney were all major disappointing. Berbatov did ok but there was nobody running off him. Back 4 were solid. We really missed width tonight

killwill

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Really stupid comment considering both teams did score, I mean how does berbatov scoring a goal for united make it look like we didnt look like scoring?

Plus he also hit the post in the first half didn't he?

eZe^

BERBA wrote: »

Draw specialists , away form P8 W1 D7

To be fair, Premier League Champion Specialists too;

P18 W11 (full seasons)

killwill

BERBA wrote: »

Draw specialists , away form P8 W1 D7

That is what you call top of the table form!!!!!!!

adox

BERBA wrote: »

fergie cryin on sky at present :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Is that the best you can come up with?


Anyway I'm still astonished that United are top of the league. So many teams at the top are not playing consistently well. Impossible to call amongst the three contenders.

KeithAFC

Utds lack of midfield quality shows up again. Never in control of that match. Awful game.

dfx-

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Really stupid comment considering both teams did score, I mean how does berbatov scoring a goal for united make it look like we didnt look like scoring?

Both teams' goals came from nothing, how hard is this concept to get. Utd were 1-0 up, this does not mean they deserved to win.

curry-muff wrote: »

To be fair, you must be fairly comfortable having to watch matches from behind your sofa then

In the run-in I was..on a good note for Utd fans, I'm used to watching champions do it

DOC09UNAM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Utds lack of midfield quality shows up again. Never in control of that match. Awful game.

There lack of midfield quality was enough to stifle arsenal though?

DOC09UNAM

dfx- wrote: »

Both teams' goals came from nothing, how hard is this concept to get. Utd were 1-0 up, this does not mean they deserved to win.



In the run-in I was..on a good note for Utd fans, I'm used to watching champions do it

Giggs nearly scored in the first half, berbatov scored, berbatov hit the post, Vidic had a header saved brilliantly by Foster towards the end of the second half.

That is 4 clear cut chances, where United seemed like they could score, and on one instance, they did.

Stop talking shíte.

killwill

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Giggs nearly scored in the first half, berbatov scored, berbatov hit the post, Vidic had a header saved brilliantly by Foster towards the end of the second half.

That is 4 clear cut chances, where United seemed like they could score, and on one instance, they did.

Stop talking shíte.

Here, here.

dfx-

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Giggs nearly scored in the first half, berbatov scored, berbatov hit the post, Vidic had a header saved brilliantly by Foster towards the end of the second half.

That is 4 clear cut chances, where United seemed like they could score, and on one instance, they did.

Giggs' cross shot? Surely that counts again under "coming from nothing". Is that United being creative and applying pressure? No.

#15

eZe^ wrote: »

To be fair, Premier League Champion Specialists too;

P18 W11 (full seasons)

LOL. Berba walked right into that one.

shadowcomplex

dfx- wrote: »

Both teams' goals came from nothing

Your talking some ****e dude, so your saying berbas brilliant flicked pass to gibson and gibson then returning it to berba before berba coolly slots it into the net is nothing

KeithAFC

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

There lack of midfield quality was enough to stifle arsenal though?

Would of been a different story if Van persie started and Fabregas. I think Arsenal would of scored at least a goal. Utd deserved to win but your midfield is poor.

DOC09UNAM

dfx- wrote: »

Giggs' cross shot? Surely that counts again under "coming from nothing". Is that United being creative and applying pressure? No.

No, the ball crossed itself in, of course it came from applying pressure, what a retarded question.

killwill

KeithAFC wrote: »

Would of been a different story if Van persie started and Fabregas. I think Arsenal would of scored at least a goal. Utd deserved to win but your midfield is poor.

Yeah cos van Persie was just pure class last night wasn't he?

dfx-

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Your talking some ****e dude, so your saying berbas brilliant flicked pass to gibson and gibson then returning it to berba before berba coolly slots it into the net is nothing

The move was from nothing. The move itself was the standout move in the entire game. It's no surprise that it almost proved the difference given the other 93 minutes it was played in.

There was no inclination of "There's a goal coming here for United" before the move.

shadowcomplex

dfx- wrote: »

Both teams' goals came from nothing, how hard is this concept to get. Utd were 1-0 up, this does not mean they deserved to win.



In the run-in I was..on a good note for Utd fans, I'm used to watching champions do it

Just to clarify, this is what you consider a goal scored from nothing


http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/dimitar-berbatov-birmingham-7991364/

dfx-

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

No, the ball crossed itself in, of course it came from applying pressure, what a retarded question.

So a single mis-hit cross is now pressure? Next you'll be saying Giggs meant it:pac:

PDN

killwill wrote: »

Not too happy with the result but at least we finish the year where it counts!!!!
TOP OF THE TABLE!!!

Eh? Is the Wigan v Arsenal game postponed tomorrow night or something?

homerjay2005

killwill wrote: »

Yeah cos van Persie was just pure class last night wasn't he?

the same man, who has had one shot on goal all season....

gosplan

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

There lack of midfield quality was enough to stifle arsenal though?

I'm not having a pop at united but as an Arsenal fan, I feel it important to say that it doesn't take real quality to stifle us when we're not playing well.

Newcastle shut us out easily, Song scored the only goal against West Ham very late on in a game that looked every bit as dull as tonight's.

Moreover does it really take quality to stifle teams? Do Birmingham and Stoke play quality football? I think not.



Carrick, Anderson and Gibson have their uses but playing the three of them against a team like Birmingham means you're going to struggle to create. For me United are really missing Scholes, Nani and Valencia. The only player tonight that managed to outfox the Brum defence at all was Berbatov.

KeithAFC

killwill wrote: »

Yeah cos van Persie was just pure class last night wasn't he?

Helped the midfield out, dropped deep, kept attacks going but the most important thing, he is a geniune threat. Chamakh is good but not as good as Van Persie.

d22ontour

Thought Brum battled well after they went behind though it was a poor game with a pretty sloppy United performance once again, away from home...Still looking for a 2nd away win and New years is upon us. :eek:

shano_88

killwill wrote: »

Yeah cos van Persie was just pure class last night wasn't he?

Do you always judge players on 1 performance?

dfx-

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Just to clarify, this is what you consider a goal scored from nothing

Any video of the two or three minutes before the goal to see United pin Birmingham on their own goal-line? Or maybe just maybe was just an individual 20 seconds of genius in an atrocious game...?

killwill

PDN wrote: »

Eh? Is the Wigan v Arsenal game postponed tomorrow night or something?

Sorry I should have said, "presuming Arsenal don't score 6 goals tomorrow, we will finish on top of the league for the end of year".
Is that better?????????

SantryRed

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Your talking some ****e dude, so your saying berbas brilliant flicked pass to gibson and gibson then returning it to berba before berba coolly slots it into the net is nothing

I don't think you understand the concept at all.

killwill

shano_88 wrote: »

Do you always just players on 1 performance?

What has he done in the last 2 seasons?
I rest my case.
Van Persie WAS a class, class player. Not anymore though. Chamakh ahead of him every day of the week IMO.

shadowcomplex

dfx- wrote: »

The move was from nothing. The move itself was the standout move in the entire game. It's no surprise that it almost proved the difference given the other 93 minutes it was played in.

There was no inclination of "There's a goal coming here for United" before the move.

YOUR

shano_88

killwill wrote: »

What has he done in the last 2 seasons?
I rest my case.
Van Persie WAS a class, class player. Not anymore though. Chamakh ahead of him every day of the week IMO.

Admitatelly, He has had injury problems and is not yet back to full fitness. I actually though he was fairly good yesterday. His running off the ball and movement were very good. He needs to be more sharper in and around the box but hopefully that comes with games.

I wouldnt agree at all that Chamakh is ahead of him. I think Van Perise has another level that i can never see Chamakh reaching.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

killwill wrote: »

What has he done in the last 2 seasons?
I rest my case.
Van Persie WAS a class, class player. Not anymore though. Chamakh ahead of him every day of the week IMO.

If you're going on form yeh could very well say the same thing about Rooney, Torres, Kaka and plenty others.. Van Persie is a class player, and this is coming from a Spurs fan.

PDN

killwill wrote: »

Sorry I should have said, "presuming Arsenal don't score 6 goals tomorrow, we will finish on top of the league for the end of year".
Is that better?????????

5 goals actually.

dfx-

shadowcomplex wrote: »

YOUR

SantryRed wrote: »

I don't think you understand the concept at all.

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Mitch Connor

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