Warning - This Will Make You Mad

Motley Crue

From a gig in Dublin, from the band who released 'Pyromania' and 'Hysteria' (after they'd released the first and were about to launch the second)

This is what happened to our country....this is what's wrong...have a look at the price of the ticket

PeterTwo

Inflation?

MrStuffins

€4 today is too much for a Def Leppard ticket TBH!

furiousox

I was at that gig, it was priced lower than usual as it was billed as an 'open rehearsal'.
I think it was the first gig that Rick Allen played without the help of a second drummer.
And remember a pint was only 2p in 1986.

Motley Crue

furiousox wrote: »

And remember a pint was only 2p in 1986.

I wanna know were YOU were drinking...but you're not far off, according to a website who published a result poll recently, this is the average price of a Guinness in Dublin and the monthly wage beside it

1969 19.63 0.20 100
1979 104.91 0.70 150
1983 182.42 1.37 133
1984 204.65 1.48 138
1985 220.96 1.52 145
1986 237.44 1.64 144
1987 249.56 1.73 145
1988 261.39 1.80 145
1989 271.91 1.87 145
1990 282.39 1.93 146
1991 294.77 2.02 146
1992 306.63 2.15 143
1993 323.10 2.24 144
1994 332.54 2.34 142
1995 339.92 2.42 140
1996 348.38 2.50 140
1997 360.01 2.52 143
1998 374.83 2.65 142
1999 396.54 2.74 145
2000 423.24 2.88 147
2001 456.97 3.01 152
2002 483.05 3.24 149
2003 511.78 3.41 150

compared to....

2007 600.24 4.03 149
2008 607.94 4.22 144
2009 595.45 4.34 133

Those prices are in Euro, so if the average for a Guinness was 1.64 I can see why the concert was only £4

honru

Why would this make me mad?

jack presley

Back in the day bands made their money from record sales. These days since we all download illegally, they charge more for gigs

Motley Crue

jack presley wrote: »

Back in the day bands made their money from record sales. These days since we all download illegally, they charge more for gigs

That's a fair point, but the rise in price at this level seems criminal....especially in such a short space of time

Toast

Motley Crue wrote: »

That's a fair point, but the rise in price at this level seems criminal....especially in such a short space of time

As pointed out it was a particularly cheap gig even for the times as it was more a test to make sure their drummer could go it alone.

Here is a picture of their drummer.

Mickolution

Motley Crue wrote: »

That's a fair point, but the rise in price at this level seems criminal....especially in such a short space of time

24 years is a short space of time?

Motley Crue

Mickolution wrote: »

24 years is a short space of time?

Relatively speaking, when you consider how much inflation has increased in that time, perhaps when compared between the years 1962 and 1986

I mean, will it be the norm in 24 years to pay 100's for a single concert ticket with the average monthly wage standing somewhere in the thousands? Surely our economy couldn't survive such inflation.

Mickolution

It's already been pointed out that this was cheaper than usual for the times. Also, if you look at the venues we have these days, the whole experience of going to a gig has been greatly improved. I'm willing to pay more for a ticket to go to something in the o2 than the old Point and those tickets haven't really gone up in recent times. On top of that, as someone already pointed out, live music is where bands make most of their money these days with album/single sales lower than they were in the past.

I'm not defending ticket prices and we do pay more than we should, but taking one ticket from 24 years ago isn't really a thorough study of the subject.

jack presley

I just had a rummage through some of my old tickets to check prices:

1990 Iron Maiden, Point Depot - £12.50
1991 AC/DC, Point Depot - £15.50
1992 Guns N Roses, Slane - £22.75
1992 Metallica, Point Depot - £15.50
1992 Faith No More, Point Depot - £13.50

Motley Crue

Incredible if you make comparisons with those bands as to what we paid on their last tour here - some of these figures do not allow for booking fee

(All conversions were made from Euro to Irish Pound using XE.com)

2010 Iron Maiden, 02 Arena - £46.00/59.50Euro (for Standing)
2009 AC/DC, 02 Arena - £53.00/67.70Euro
2010 Guns N Roses, 02 Arena - £55.00/70Euro (for Standing)
2009 Metallica, Marley Park - £60.00/76.50Euro
2009 Faith No More, Olympia Theatre - £43.00/55Euro

To attend those 5 gigs in 2009/10 would have cost £257IEP or 328 Euro, some of those figures fail to include "booking fee" or "admin charge" or "Internet transaction charge" and that's also before you mount on the charges for travel, parking, maybe food or merchandise

This is compared with a total charge to the same 5 bands over the period 1991/92 of £79.75IEP or 101Euro and that's not even to mention that Guns N' Roses caused the amount of trouble they did.

honru

I think a lot has changed in the last twenty or so years though. The emergence of the Celtic Tiger and the massive shake-up of the music industry are two things that come to mind.

Mickolution

It's a supply/demand issue really. Promoters will charge what people are willing to pay. Why shouldn't they raise prices if people are willing to pay higher prices?

setanta74

jack presley wrote: »

I just had a rummage through some of my old tickets to check prices:

1990 Iron Maiden, Point Depot - £12.50
1991 AC/DC, Point Depot - £15.50
1992 Guns N Roses, Slane - £22.75
1992 Metallica, Point Depot - £15.50
1992 Faith No More, Point Depot - £13.50

Taking the GNR ticket price in '92, this would have been about one third of my dole at that time which I remember being about £60 a week. (These were the days when after the leaving cert you could get dole until you went to college)

Dole now is about €190 so one third of that is about €66 which is there or thereabouts the going rate for these bands in 2011.

Not the most scientific of economic analysis there but you get my drift.