UFC 125 Discussion **SPOILERS**

scudzilla

No need for spoiler tags UNLESS YOU'RE POSTING DETAILS ABOUT THE UNDERCARD WHICH MAY BE BROADCAST ON MAIN PPV

scudzilla

I've got Gray winning this, 3/4th round by TKO. Just think he has too much for edgar.

Think Guida/Gomi could well be fight of the night, with a win by decision for Guida. (Although i do have a tenner on a Guida KO/TKO at 10/1 wit PP)

Going against Marcus Davis in this, for the first time, i think his weight cut is gonna affect him badly

Niall0

countdown:
http://www.ufc.com/media/125-CD-EDGAR-MAYNARD

In the beginning of the countdown Gray comes off kinda creepy :pac: and he REALLY wants to win this fight.

I think Frankie is too well rounded to lose.
Gray is probably the most boring fighter ive ever seen being interviewed.

Tones69

Think il go with

Edgar
Stann
Vera
Guida
Diaz

scudzilla

Tones69 wrote: »

Think il go with

Edgar
Stann
Vera
Guida
Diaz

Now that surprises me, especially with Vera's recent form.

Maynard
Leben
Silva
Guida
Kim

ScareGilly

Preliminary Bouts:

Antonio McKee vs. Jacob Volkmann - Probably the most boring fighter in the UFC now, but can't see him losing
Daniel Roberts vs. Greg Soto - Never heard of Daniel Roberts..
Mike Brown and Diego Nunes - Because it's Mike Brown

(Ion Television 9PM ET/6PM PT)

Phil Baroni vs. Brad Tavares - Because it's Phil Baroni..
Josh Grispi vs. Dustin Poirier - Really can't see Grispi losing this one
Marcus Davis vs. Jeremy Stephens - With the weight cut and the amount of body shots Stephens puts in, Davis will be gassed by the end of the first..

Main Bouts:

Takanori Gomi vs. Clay Guida - With his brick head, can't see Gomi KOing him, Guida to wrestle/stand for 1 round on his way to a UD
Nate Diaz vs. Dong Hyun Kim - Toughest to call imo, Nate outstrikes his way to a UD
Brandon Vera vs. Thiago Silva - Vera has no consistency, I think Thiago is just too much for him, 2nd round TKO
Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann - Can't see Stann winning this in any way.. Lacks power in his hand and is just generally jack of all trades, master of none.
Gray Maynard vs. Frankie Edgar (UFC Lightweight Champion) - Hoping for Frankie to win again, I've gone with him in the 2 BJ fights and really hoping he delivers again Saturday night.. His work ethic is just unreal and his dedication is something else, by far my favourite LW..

Fozzy

Niall0 wrote: »

In the beginning of the countdown Gray comes off kinda creepy :pac: and he REALLY wants to win this fight.

I think Frankie is too well rounded to lose.
Gray is probably the most boring fighter ive ever seen being interviewed.

I think part of it is that he has a stutter and he has to try really hard for it not to show, which ends up making him sound monotone

I have Gray winning. And not in an exciting fashion. But Guida will make up for it

fakearms123

I'm only going to predict the main card in detail because it will take too long for me to do all the fights.

Gray Maynard vs Frankie Edgar


Prediction: Gray Maynard via unanimous decision.
The reason I chose Gray is simple, he has beaten Frankie before and he will do it again. Gray is almost like a stronger, taller version of Frankie and although Frankie makes up for his height with speed and boxing, Gray makes up for his lack of speed with strength and wrestling. So I see this as a grappling match with Gray's hand being raised at the end. The fans will find this fight very boring, sure you only have to look at Gray's record, he hasn't finished anyone since 2007 but the guy knows how to win fights and thats all that matters in this fight. I counted Frankie out both times against BJ Penn and I was wrong but I'm sorry Frankie but I have to count you out again.


Chris Leben vs Brian Stann


Prediction: Chris Leben via TKO 2nd Round.
I don't know too much about Brian Stann but I know that his talent doesn't ly in just one martial arts, his talent is spread over each aspect individually, this however means that he's good at everything but he's not great at anything. Chris Leben has had his ups and downs but at the moment the dude is on the biggest up of his career with a stunning submission of Sexyama. Leben has a granite chin and knockout power. Brian Stann has power in his striking but I think Leben edges ahead. I dont know why Leben has to fight Stann, Leben should be fighting someone at a heigher level, Leben should of been given Wanderlei when he gets healthy, can you imagine how insane that fight would be!! Anyway Chris Leben should finish Stann but it won't be easy.


Thiago Silva vs Brandon Vera


Prediction: Thiago Silva via KO 1st Round.
I don't like Brandon Vera, so this prediction might seem biased. I feel as though Vera hypes himself up too much and the guy has a below average record, the dude lost to Keith Jardine... anyway I thought Jon Jones would humble Vera a little by smashing his orbital bone with Bones's elbow but seems as though he wasnt humbled enough. Silva also needs a win after his lost to Rashad, Silva will KO Vera the same way he KO'd Jardine, first round in the opening few minutes. Silva is a beast and he almost had Rashad in the third. Brandon Vera is overrated and he is his own fan.


Nate Diaz vs Kim Dong-hyun


Prediction: Nate Diaz via unanimous decision.
I cannot wait for this fight!!! :eek::eek: This is one of the fight of the nights without a doubt! I love both of these guys and I havent seen Kim Dong-hyun fight in ages! Kim Dong-hyun is technically undefeated since his Karo lost was overturned but I still Nate will be too much for him. Nate Diaz looks great at welterweight. Nate Diaz will beat him on the feet with countless number of strikes but if they tie up on the feet in the clinch Kim Dong-hyun should be able to get Nate to the ground and into a dominant position. But it won't be easy for Kim Dong-hyun on the ground as Nate can submit Kim at any second. This will be a close fight, it could even be a split decision but either way Nate is the better fighter.


Clay Guida vs Takanori Gomi


Prediction: Clay Guida via TKO 3rd Round.
Another fight of the night right here! Great fight! Clay Guida is a beast, he's a grinder and strong wrestler with an unbreakable chin and Gomi has never in his career fought anyone like Clay. Clay's pace will gas Gomi and Gomi won't be able to defend the takedowns, he will be smothered for 2 rounds until he quits in the third. Gomi has big punches but even if he connects with Clay I dont think it will knock him out like it did with Griffin. Clay all the way with this one, I think Gomi got a little bit lucky with his KO of Griffin, not taking anything away from Gomi because his punch on Griffin was amazing and right on the money but Clay is a different type of monster, a monster that won't go away, just ask Diego Sanchez, Gomi doesnt have the gas tank.





So they are my predictions in some sort of detail, I will come back after the weekend and comment on mistakes and gloat when I get everything right!
A few other fights just to note the winner

Brad Tavares
Josh Grispi
Jeremy Stephens
Mike Brown

MrStuffins

Frank says he can submit Gray even though Gray has never been submitted........... but didn't Nate Diaz sub him with a Triangle Choke on TUF?

Also, the thread is a tad overly serious at this early stage and in my opinion needs a little Britney Palmer

SDTimeout

MrStuffins wrote: »

Frank says he can submit Gray even though Gray has never been submitted........... but didn't Nate Diaz sub him with a Triangle Choke on TUF?

Also, the thread is a tad overly serious at this early stage and in my opinion needs a little Britney Palmer

If we was subbed on TUF. They don't count on your record and are considered exhibition bouts.

MrStuffins

SDTimeout wrote: »

If we was subbed on TUF. They don't count on your record and are considered exhibition bouts.

yeah i know this, but it doesn't change the fact that Gray has been submitted in a competitive fight.

Hail 2 Da Thief

She can put me in a leg triangle choke anytime!

I'm finding it hard to get excited about much else on this card.

Odats

Not to mention Holly Madison as guest Octagon girl too. My predictions are:
Maynard
Leben
Silva
Diaz
Guida
Lil Heathen (Sorry Marcus)
Grispi
Brown

pablohoney87

MrStuffins wrote: »

Frank says he can submit Gray even though Gray has never been submitted........... but didn't Nate Diaz sub him with a Triangle Choke on TUF?

He subbed gray with that modified guillotine he uses. Gray looks quite "submitable". The reason nobody's done it in a pro fight is because his wrestling is too good to keep him on the ground. Hes able to dictate where the fight takes place too easily. Look at the trouble he had against jim miller when the fight went to ground. However frankie wont submit him from his back. 90% of this fight will be gray lying on top of frankie but not getting anything really done. He will keep busy enough to prevent a stand up though.

That_Guy

Guida to win by KO for betting purposes would do nicely.

Mr. Loverman

Who's staying up for this tonight? Haven't decided yet...

scudzilla

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Who's staying up for this tonight? Haven't decided yet...

Probably not, will download it at 9am and watch it at midday wit a few beers

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Who's staying up for this tonight? Haven't decided yet...

I probably will, nothing better to be doing anyway.

sonic.trip

This really makes for great fight, if edgar can escape the takedowns of maynard and punish him then i think he will take it, if not i think maynard will score the rounds for getting the takedowns with his wrestling. heart is saying frankie edgar, head saying gray maynard. will not be betting on this fight anyway as it could go either way.

I'm going with wins for:

Mike Brown
Brad Tavares
Greg Soto
Clay Guida
Thiago Silva
Chris Leben
Jeremy Stevens

Gonna stick my head out and say frankie edgar and jacob volkman too


Accumulator on tavares, stephens, leben, guida

Mr. Loverman

I'm going to stay up. The booze made the decision for me.

Daniel2oo9

Ill be up

bret69

I'll be up!

Mr. Loverman

The prelims start at 1? Never watched them before...

TheProdigy

Davis v Stephens
Diaz v Kim
Guida v Gomi
Vera v Silva
Leben v Stann
Edgar v Maynard

Prelims at 2

chopperbyrne

According to ESPN's schedule, the prelims are on at 02:00 for half an hour only, then half an hour of cricket and then UFC 125 at 03:00.

Fozzy

The prelims are airing on tv in the US at 1:55am our time. They must have added on an extra five minutes in case the three fights go the distance. If ESPN here start airing it at 2am then they're probably going to miss a little bit of the show

mailburner

ive gone for edgar on points at 7/4
think thats value for a 50/50 fight
thats how i see it anyway
its 2/5 for the fight to go the distance...a bit short but i
think it will go the full five

a small treble on diaz, roberts and tavares

ScareGilly

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Ill be up

He's returned!! :eek:

SDTimeout

Volk via split decision gives me my first fully correct fantasy total of the year

SDTimeout

Roberts def. Soto via submission (kimura) RD 1, 3:45

SanoVitae

I hope Baroni achieves a Menne-esque KO tonight to add to his highlight collection. It'll probably have to happen in the first 30 seconds though, given his usual conditioning problems.

ScareGilly

Holy shit, wasn't expecting those results in the prelims!!:eek:

Daniel2oo9

baroni is looking good

Daniel2oo9

sorry

sonic.trip

nice. First one up for the accumulator

TheProdigy

Great finish, didn't rush in after the headkick and caught Baroni with some beautiful combo's to finish.

ScareGilly

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

baroni is looking good

Until he gassed after 2 minutes..

Are we using spoilers on these prelims?

popflop

ScareGilly wrote: »

Until he gassed after 2 minutes..

Are we using spoilers on these prelims?

Dont think so.. considering there is an alert in the topic.

Daniel2oo9

This should be a Cracker!

lil-evil

Is Brown up next ??

digme

this is going to be a great fight!!!!!
come on josh

Professey Chin

Poirer is fighting absolutely amazing :eek:

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Great round from Poirier.

digme

total street fighter,

Professey Chin

This is why we loved the WEC

digme

great dirty boxing i love it

ScareGilly

I've gotten all of the prelims wrong bar

Tavares

jayteecork

There goes my accum already.

lil-evil

Imagine what Aldo would have done to him

Oh_Noes

Lol my accumulator was finished after the first fight.

At least we get to see Marcus "Lucky Charms O'Begorra" Davis get his arse kicked. :pac:

TheProdigy

Well done Marcus clinch after you rock him :rolleyes: