Do you care that your Irish?

veryangryman

I see alot of the 2 polar extremes...


On one side...
Paddywhackery, wearing green abroad. Playing to the stereotype.

Pro Accent works with the foreign ladies...god bless em
Con Dignity is hugely diminished

On the other side
Those ashamed to be irish. Sick of listening to the paddywhackery

Pro Somewhat fitting. VerY hard to fly the flag the way weve fecked ourselves up recently. Even the sports teams are tripe at best
Con It makes me very sad to see people knocking the country (even when im one of them)


Anyways, im just wondering, is there any of you out there that really dont care about the nationalism. I want to quickly advise all athiests that their opinion on this shouldnt be considered - Ive never met a nationalist athiest (prove me wrong folks). Maybe not caring one way or the other is the way forward

stovelid

veryangryman wrote: »

VerY hard to fly the flag the way weve fecked ourselves up recently. Even the sports teams are tripe at best

Just support Spain. I loved them ever since 2008. Top, they are.

Bog

You don't seem that angry.

phasers

Better than being American

Deus Ex Machina

Do I care that my Irish what?

theboss80

Only Paddyackery I see goin on is by politicans

TeddyTedson

Not really. I'm not ashamed or anything either. I suppose it's one of those "ah ask me bollix" questions

The paddy brigade and the anti Oirish lot are as bad as each other.

galwayrush

I see myself more as a citizen of the world.

dlofnep

I am the best. I attribute all my greatness to being born on this wonderful little island. If I was born in any other country, my greatness would be less. That's the cold hard truth that faces those who are not Irish!

thetonynator

I'm sure there is somewhere in between OP.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Very proud to be Irish, but I don't play to the stereotype when I'm abroad or any of that shíte.

TPD

I wouldn't really attach any pride or shame to the random location/lineage I was born into.

Celly Smunt

i'm a human being,i'm not Irish.

starbelgrade

pmcmahon wrote: »

i'm a human being,i'm not Irish.

Where did you get your passport - the Human Being Passport Office?

ejmaztec

starbelgrade wrote: »

Where did you get your passport - the Human Being Passport Office?

He got it free with 50 Heinz labels, and he's now a fully fledged Human Bean.

Celly Smunt

ejmaztec wrote: »

He got it free with 50 Heinz labels, and he's now a fully fledged Human Bean.

it was bachelors,get it right :P

!MAVERICK!

I would consider myself quite lucky to be Irish.:cool:

OPENROAD

stovelid wrote: »

Just support ArsenalSpain. I loved them ever since 2008. Top, they are.

Scarinae

Why can't an atheist be proud to be Irish? Not seeing the connection

David086

I couldn't care less, just ask for respect. I hate people taking the piss out of us *cough* Brits *cough*. Just joking.

citizen_p

i like being irish, not only our geographic location no naturel disasters, no artic (last 4 weeks were a fluke) or tropical conditions, european, but not attached... meaning we were involved in what was the centre of the world affairs for a milenia, but we were small enough to not be involved in the major european wars etc... we were colonised but i dont think it was as bad as what the indian, africans, americans etc... but also the fact that we are known for having a laugh world wide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdjLBXlieI0

tl/dr = Bold

sh1tstirrer

Fishie wrote: »

Why can't an atheist be proud to be Irish? Not seeing the connection

You'll have to ask the very angry man

galwayrush

They shoot without shame
In the name of a piece of dirt
For a change of accent
Or the color of your shirt
Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colorful rag is unfurled

RichieC

veryangryman wrote: »

Anyways, im just wondering, is there any of you out there that really dont care about the nationalism. I want to quickly advise all athiests that their opinion on this shouldnt be considered - Ive never met a nationalist athiest (prove me wrong folks). Maybe not caring one way or the other is the way forward

I'm 10 explain this..

ejmaztec

pmcmahon wrote: »

it was bachelors,get it right :P

The winds getting up, time to batten down the hatches.:eek:

El Horseboxo

I worry about being Irish everyday. Probably won't sleep tonight thinking about it.

Tar.Aldarion

nah, randomly born here or whatever. Just another human

epgc3fyqirnbsx

I'm happy I was born here because for all it's faults it really is a pretty cool spot and we're genereally well liked abroad.
But pride isn't a word I'd use, I had no say in it. Fortunate would be more accurate

Mr Marston

Atheist nationalist right here buddy.

starbelgrade

veryangryman wrote: »

Anyways, im just wondering, is there any of you out there that really dont care about the nationalism. I want to quickly advise all athiests that their opinion on this shouldnt be considered - Ive never met a nationalist athiest (prove me wrong folks). Maybe not caring one way or the other is the way forward

You are confusing two different concepts - being proud of your nationality & your idealogical beliefs regarding nationalism are not the same thing.

There are also many different types of nationalism & many of them are based on very different strains of ideology.

Also, it is absurd to suggest that an atheist cannot also have nationalistic beliefs. But I think you already know that.

ejmaztec

Mousey- wrote: »

i like being irish, not only our geographic location no naturel disasters, no artic (last 4 weeks were a fluke) or tropical conditions, european, but not attached... meaning we were involved in what was the centre of the world affairs for a milenia, but we were small enough to not be involved in the major european wars etc... we were colonised but i dont think it was as bad as what the indian, africans, americans etc... but also the fact that we are known for having a laugh world wide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdjLBXlieI0

tl/dr = Bold

"DAA Helping you on your way"

I couldn't help but notice when I saw that ad, that some people had been sleeping at the airport for five days because of the feckin snow.

gariceimo

i enjoy being Irish, but i don't advertise it, well i do have an Irish Flag tattoo on my forehead. But besides that....

Wolfe Tone

Anyone who plays up to the american stereotype of the Irish, leprechauns and that shi!te, needs a slap.



Im glad that I was born here and am Irish.

Ghandee

I just care that (at least) I'm not English, and I thank God every day for it!










*puts on helmet*

scientific1982

I'm always proud of my culture and heritage. I think its very important and its something I'll pass on to my kids.

Rockery Woman

Im Irish. I always liked being Irish.

I doubt the greater universe cares whether Im Irish or not. I have friends from other countries and I dont judge anyone by their country of origin, rather whether they are a decent soul or not.

I havent been abroad for 4 years, maybe the Irish arent as popular in "mainland Europe" nowadays - I know one girl who got hostile treatment while staying in Brussels last year because she's Irish:mad:.

I love my country. I dont love what has happened to my country over the past 12 months though....

Killer Pigeon

veryangryman wrote: »

Pro Accent works with the foreign ladies...god bless em
Con Dignity is hugely diminished

I'm a Northsider with a D4 accent, I don't gain much respect at all.

scientific1982

Rockery Woman wrote: »

Im Irish. I always liked being Irish.

I doubt the greater universe cares whether Im Irish or not. I have friends from other countries and I dont judge anyone by their country of origin, rather whether they are a decent soul or not.

I havent been abroad for 4 years, maybe the Irish arent as popular in "mainland Europe" nowadays - I know one girl who got hostile treatment while staying in Brussels last year because she's Irish:mad:.

I love my country. I dont love what has happened to my country over the past 12 months though....

What happened her.

namelessguy

Proud to be Irish? Genetically, culturally or nationally? Either way it's a bit pointless isn't it. I was born with fingers, that doesn't neccessarily make me proud. Neither does being Irish. It just is.

Rockery Woman

Hi Scientific1982!

Well she got hostile treatment in bars and restaurants, some even turned on her about Irelands economy. Basically the natives were rude to her - seemingly because she's Irish.

Im only going by what I was told at the time, but I know she will never travel to Brussels again.

Killer Pigeon

Mousey- wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdjLBXlieI0

If the UK built a massive new modern airport and wanted to advertise it by showing off some national pride how would it compare to this video?

Da Shins Kelly

I do care about it. I love living here, I love Irish people and, to be honest, I can't think of anywhere else I'd rather have grown up in. I do have a lot of love for Ireland, simply because I grew up here and my family and friends are all from here. That's not to say I don't love travelling too and I love lots of other places in the world, however, I do think I'll end up back in Ireland again at the end of my life. It does mean a lot of to me to be Irish. It's an identity thing. I love the culture and the history and all that. There's all that 'oh, I'm a human being, it's an accident of birth that I'm Irish', but, as far as I'm concerned, it's a very happy accident indeed.

K-9

Rockery Woman wrote: »

Hi Scientific1982!

Well she got hostile treatment in bars and restaurants, some even turned on her about Irelands economy. Basically the natives were rude to her - seemingly because she's Irish.

Im only going by what I was told at the time, but I know she will never travel to Brussels again.

This is what gets me questioning defining yourself by a nationality.

It creates division like the above case. Belgian person defines an Irish person by generalities and Irish person defines Brussels by one bad experience in a boozer there.

Makes no sense, either way.

Schapiro

I like our island, and weather..and music..and language, and culture in general I suppose. We've a rich history and I think we're a grand lot overall.

Can't say that I wake up every morning and say to myself "Another Irish morning! My life is fantastic because I'm Irish! Today will be a good day because I'm Irish!" though. I'm afraid it doesn't quite work that way.

Anyway, would rather be able to say I'm Irish than a lot of other things.

bobsoice23

Im only going by what I was told at the time, but I know she will never travel to Brussels again.[/QUOTE]
Lol never going back to Brussels is a bit extreme.She got a slagging about her country's economy..that's too funny.Oh Im an atheist by the way and I love Ireland..I even cried when we lost to spain in penos in 2002 and had a mighty battle holding them back when keano went home:D

thecool

Yeah I'm very proud and honoured to be Irish and I'm a city dweller I love our culture and language , some people offend me when they're so anti Irish , I'm an atheist/catholic..
But yeah , we were the country that could and can.

It's crazy to think that if there was no genocide by the British, that Ireland's population would be 28 million now.
I'm quiet a nationalistc person but I don't support Sinn Fein.

There's not really any sort of leaning right political partys in Ireland.
I'd like if there was a centre-right/right but not far right political party here.

But yeah I'm proud to be Irish and always will be.

:D:cool:

scorpioishere

I hate being Irish.

thecool

scorpioishere go emigrate

Wibbs

thecool wrote: »

Yeah I'm very proud and honoured to be Irish and I'm a city dweller I love our culture and language , some people offend me when they're so anti Irish

Can you speak the language fluently? Do you know the history of this nation and no not just 1916?

I'm an atheist/catholic..

That's a very Irish way to look at things

But yeah , we were the country that could and can.

I disagree. We were the country that could and largely didnt. Irish people have, but usually do so by getting as far away from the place as possible. As a nation? Yea I dont really see anything much of note built or done in the last 1000 years that you wouldnt find in any relatively large old town in Europe.

It's crazy to think that if there was no genocide by the British, that Ireland's population would be 28 million now.

Yea but of what qualiity. When people were eating grass and dying in their multitudes on the coast and their brains didnt extend to beachcombing you do have to ask yourself. When fishermen sold their nets to buy food, you just give up.

I'm quiet a nationalistc person

Would all your fellows be as quiet....

thecool

That's your opinion.
And yes to both questions .

Kiera

I only tend to care when i'm away. Its not something i think about day-to-day.