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Always remembered 40 years on

  • 02-01-2011 4:48am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭


    Today see's the 40th Anniversary of the Ibrox Disaster when 66 Men, children and woman lost there lives.
    Its at times like this that you realise football is only a game


    Margaret Ferguson (18)
    Robert Maxwell (15)
    Robert McAdam (36)
    James Sibbald (28)
    Hugh Addie (33)
    John Neil (29)
    James Rae (19)
    David Duff (23)
    James Trainer (20)
    John Gardiner (32)
    Mason Phillip (14) (pronounced Philp)
    John McLeay (23)
    Richard McLeay (28)
    Thomas Grant (16)
    Nigel Pickup (8)
    Peter Easton (13)
    Brian Todd (14)
    Robert Mulholland (16)
    Russell Morgan (14)
    Matthew Reid (49)
    Charles Livingston (30)
    John Semple (18)
    Brian Hutchinson (16)
    James Grey (37)
    Alex McIntyre (29)
    Charles Dougan (31)
    Thomas Melville (17)
    George Irwin (22)
    George Findlay (21)
    David McGhee (14)
    Walter Raeburn (36)
    Walter Shields (15)
    John Jeffrey (16)
    James McGovern (24)
    James Mair (19)
    George Adams (43)
    Ian Hunter (14)
    John Buchanan (32)
    David Anderson (45)
    Russell Malcolm (16)
    Thomas Stirling (16)
    Alexander Orr (16)
    Robert Rae (25)
    George Wilson (15)
    Thomas McRobbie (17)
    William Somerhill (17)
    John Crawford (23)
    Donald McPherson (30)
    Francis Dover (16)
    Adam Henderson (42)
    Douglas Morrison (15)
    Thomas Dickson (32)
    Ronald Paton (14)
    Robert Cairns (17)
    Peter Wright (31)
    Donald Sutherland (14)
    Duncan McBrearty (17)
    Ian Frew (21)
    Robert Grant (21)
    William Shaw (30)
    Richard Barke (15)
    Robert Carrigan (13)
    Peter Farries (26)
    Charles Stirling (20)
    Andrew Lindsay (18)
    George Smith (40)

    R.I.P. The 66


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Jesus, almost half the people there were under 25.:(
    RIP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    RIP the 66

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    a flag liverpool fans drew up earlier in the year!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Lets hope the fans can honour the minutes silence as ive seen what happens at a minutes silence when theres an old firm game which is disgracefull.

    Where all the fans that died Rangers fans or were some Celtic fans also?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    snaps wrote: »
    Lets hope the fans can honour the minutes silence as ive seen what happens at a minutes silence when theres an old firm game which is disgracefull.

    Where all the fans that died Rangers fans or were some Celtic fans also?

    All Gers(possible neutrals) afaik.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    snaps wrote: »
    Lets hope the fans can honour the minutes silence as ive seen what happens at a minutes silence when theres an old firm game which is disgracefull.

    Where all the fans that died Rangers fans or were some Celtic fans also?

    All Gers fans though I believe a couple of the injured were tic fans
    Funny thing is I don't believe any tic fans will disrupt this silence


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭1967


    Cant see anything but total respect for the minutes silence on both sides and from a hibee RIP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    All Gers fans though I believe a couple of the injured were tic fans
    Funny thing is I don't believe any tic fans will disrupt this silence
    Any Celtic "fans" who disrespect this deserve a good kicking.RIP. Mon the celts in the game though,Obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Fingers crossed then, Im a neutral, I love these old firm games, Just some of the stuff that is chanted sometimes annoys me, from both sets of supporters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Delighted there were no clowns disrupting the minutes silence


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    it is sad to think that this stupid sectarian divide still exists 40 years on when something as tragic as this should have put things into perspective. RIP to the 66.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    it is sad to think that this stupid sectarian divide still exists 40 years on when something as tragic as this should have put things into perspective. RIP to the 66.

    What stupid sectarian divide??? Do you know what you're talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    snaps wrote: »
    Fingers crossed then, Im a neutral, I love these old firm games, Just some of the stuff that is chanted sometimes annoys me, from both sets of supporters.

    So which chants actually annoy you?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Can we not leave this ****e out of this thread at least please? :(

    It's about 66 football fans who lost their lives in a tragedy, not chants or sectarianism. Bit of respect ffs.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What stupid sectarian divide??? Do you know what you're talking about?


    i was pointing out that the age old differences between these two clubs which is religious based and politically based, didn't decline in any way despite the tragic crush that happened at ibrox in 1971 and that the suporters of both clubs didn't relinquish any hatred for each other over the years despite being given a harsh reality on the fragility of life. Pretty straight forward enough point im sorry you didn't get it :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    What stupid sectarian divide??? Do you know what you're talking about?

    maybe he is talking about the people that use this match as an excuse to vent their bigotry on both sides. stop trying to ruin a thread with debate he made a good point imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    i was pointing out that the age old differences between these two clubs which is religious based and politically based, didn't decline in any way despite the tragic crush that happened at ibrox in 1971 and that the suporters of both clubs didn't relinquish any hatred for each other over the years despite being given a harsh reality on the fragility of life. Pretty straight forward enough point im sorry you didn't get it :rolleyes:

    tbh i dont see how the Ibrox tragedy was going to chnage long held and deep rooted beliefs. I wasn't intentionally having a go at you, it's just that the rivalry is too ingrained imo.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    tbh i dont see how the Ibrox tragedy was going to chnage long held and deep rooted beliefs. I wasn't intentionally having a go at you, it's just that the rivalry is too ingrained imo.

    Sad but true and that's the shocking thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Sad but true and that's the shocking thing

    Well i don't see what is necessarily shocking about long standing rivalry but anywya this thread is not the place to start arguing about this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Despite the best efforts of the media to hype this up, it was always going to be observed by Celtic fans.

    Hopefully Rangers fans will repay the respect by stopping singing slanderous songs about the Celtic manager who helped tend to the wounded 40 years ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    No chance that this would be disrupted, this is not the Queen Mother or remembering British soldiers, this is ordinary people of the West of Scotland that were being remembered.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Fair play to Celtic FC and their fans for keeping the minutes silence. There were a lot of media and your typical idiots predicting that there would be boos so they could ridicule the Glasgow rivalry like usual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Warper wrote: »
    Fair play to Celtic FC and their fans for keeping the minutes silence. There were a lot of media and your typical idiots predicting that there would be boos so they could ridicule the Glasgow rivalry like usual.
    Lots of Celtic fans are related, married to, or have pals,even sons or daughters who are rangers fans.This dreadful event affected Celtic fans as well.It was always going to be respected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    i was pointing out that the age old differences between these two clubs which is religious based and politically based, didn't decline in any way despite the tragic crush that happened at ibrox in 1971 and that the suporters of both clubs didn't relinquish any hatred for each other over the years despite being given a harsh reality on the fragility of life. Pretty straight forward enough point im sorry you didn't get it :rolleyes:
    Your only jealous coz spurs v your lot is a pussy derby in comparison.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Despite the best efforts of the media to hype this up, it was always going to be observed by Celtic fans.

    Hopefully Rangers fans will repay the respect by stopping singing slanderous songs about the Celtic manager who helped tend to the wounded 40 years ago.
    The old ditty about the famine being over could be heard loudly spewing from the stands today.Only by a "small minority" though as Im sure your well aware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    The old ditty about the famine being over could be heard loudly spewing from the stands today.Only by a "small minority" though as Im sure your well aware.

    At least they had the decency not to abuse Jock Stein with the day that was in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    The old ditty about the famine being over could be heard loudly spewing from the stands today.Only by a "small minority" though as Im sure your well aware.

    As were song such as Oh a up the Ra
    no side is without there morons but this thread is not about songs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    As were song such as Oh a up the Ra
    no side is without there morons but this thread is not about songs

    That was Ooh aah Samaras, but as you say, this thread is above point scoring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    That was Ooh aah Samaras, but as you say, this thread is above point scoring.

    Oh that was sung as well as the one I mentioned ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    That was Ooh aah Samaras, but as you say, this thread is above point scoring.
    It surely was, but wrong thread as you say.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well i don't see what is necessarily shocking about long standing rivalry but anywya this thread is not the place to start arguing about this.


    I'm not looking for any argument and i feel i made a very valid point and i don't regret it for one moment. There is rivalry in sport like for example the majority of Tipp and Kilkenny who can sit in the same stand without battering each other and then there is pure ignorant bigotry in some derby's and not just the old firm. That's all i will say on the matter and i think you will find i paid my respect to the dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    I'm not looking for any argument and i feel i made a very valid point and i don't regret it for one moment. There is rivalry in sport like for example the majority of Tipp and Kilkenny who can sit in the same stand without battering each other and then there is pure ignorant bigotry in some derby's and not just the old firm. That's all i will say on the matter and i think you will find i paid my respect to the dead.

    But you can't compare a Gah rivalry based on the stroke of a British civil servants pen on a map with a football one, let alone the Glasgow Derby which encompasses politics, religion and culture. Tribalism, which football is, does not equate with bigotry. The Gah produces plenty of messy games at club level, where the difference between you and them matters, which it fundamentally doesn't in the county system, as its a British invention and has no actual basis in the real world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    I'm not looking for any argument and i feel i made a very valid point and i don't regret it for one moment. There is rivalry in sport like for example the majority of Tipp and Kilkenny who can sit in the same stand without battering each other and then there is pure ignorant bigotry in some derby's and not just the old firm. That's all i will say on the matter and i think you will find i paid my respect to the dead.
    Lots of celtic & rangers fans are best mates,family etc. as Ive earlier said.Get off the aul high horse now.Tipp v KK- What a stupid comparison. The Glasgow divide is akin to the Belfast divide in many cases. Areas are segregated etc.-no go areas. Tipp-KK. Tis just a hurling match FFS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    But you can't compare a Gah rivalry based on the stroke of a British civil servants pen on a map with a football one, let alone the Glasgow Derby which encompasses politics, religion and culture. Tribalism, which football is, does not equate with bigotry. The Gah produces plenty of messy games at club level, where the difference between you and them matters, which it fundamentally doesn't in the county system, as its a British invention and has no actual basis in the real world.
    Ive seen plenty of gaa rivalry.Trust me.They're no angels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    Ive seen plenty of gaa rivalry.Trust me.They're no angels.

    I'm not saying they are. But the idea that someone from Westmeath will have the same intensity of sporting rivalry with someone from Lietrom (considering neither existed until the British created them in the 1830's) solely on the basis of where you are from, as any football derby where your religion, politics, ethnicity etc is on the line is ludicrious.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    RIP. The Rangers will be back after today. No doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    I'm not saying they are. But the idea that someone from Westmeath will have the same intensity of sporting rivalry with someone from Lietrom (considering neither existed until the British created them in the 1830's) solely on the basis of where you are from, as any football derby where your religion, politics, ethnicity etc is on the line is ludicrious.
    I agree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    RIP. The Rangers will be back after today. No doubt.
    Hopefully they wont:D.But Im sure they will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    R.I.P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    We're all supporters: a fair few of us know the brotherhood of being crushed into a ground. RIP to any supporter that dies following the team they love.


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