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Calender Controversy
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Lol, it was a bit incongruous to see the kids running up the road to ask her for a drink and her to pop her boob out! I would be an advocate for breastfeeding(but not to the stage where teeth are growing in, :eek:) I have to admit, her kids never seemed to have the normal childhood ailments so maybe she was right....
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If you look at fashion adverts from the 1930's many featured models with dogs. Dogs were a huge fashion accessory especially Greyhounds - wouldn't it be nice to see them like that again !
How often do we know of someone who gets a dog, for whatever reason, & stays detached. Right now thousands of "detached" dogs are sitting alone in kennels. Maybe the artist was influenced by the fact that many dogs are bought on the whim.
^^The two paragraphs in this post are a contradiction of each other!Wouldn't you say that dogs as fashion accessories is one of the biggest problems rescues face at the moment, flavour of the month, discarded when the next fad pops up. Which brings up the question - is it irresponsible for a rescue to show dogs as fashion accessories?
^^This is also my opinion on the subject. I already waste enough of my life grinding my teeth at the sight of dogs in handbags with diamante collars on and 'big hard men' with there restricted breeds, and there are dogs being handed into rescues because they don't match the new furniture. I'm sure plenty of people on here have chosen their dog because of how it looks but there's plenty more already going that step further and crossing the line. No way do I want to see dogs being promoted as fashion accessories more.
That first pic you posted there is very different from the ASH calender images, the man there is focusing his full attention on the dog, he's far from detatched from the dog and isn't staring into space with an empty expression on his face. I completely 'get' that image. The second (with the greyhound) I don't like, it's basicly in the same context as the calender pics, again with the detatchment from the dog which seems to only be there because it matches asthetically.How's about this for controversial... :eek::eek::eek:
I feel unable to make unbiased comment on that picture and the context because David Hasselhoff makes me want to vomit at the best of times.
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"Get out of my dreams, Get into my car" ?!? Like anyone would want to get into his car :rolleyes:0 -
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adrenalinjunkie wrote: »^^The two paragraphs in this post are a contradiction of each other!
Now I definitely know that you are female
. Many contradict me so I might as well join in !. I would love to see Greyhounds being perceived as a desirable dog & not something that can be killed, en mass, at will.
The detached comment was in reference to the models looking detached from the dogs. A "fashion" or "fad" dog can be bought on a whim but that doesn't mean that they will always be neglected. I think it depends on the breed & the type of people that are attracted by the fashion.
Right now there is a very scary fashion for "defence" dogs in the UK & it is causing no end of problems.0 -
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I thought that looking at the other ones, they're a bit of quirky fun. Where have you got the calendar displayed? Will you leave it there during march
It's almost too nice to put up. I am seriously thinking of getting another one to put to one side. It will be on display & yes it will be there during March. Everyone here knows that I am bonkers so a bit of boob won't make any difference.
I think that you should get one for hubby.
It's a bit hypocritical of Pete Wedderburn to criticise it when Bray Vet are one of the sponsors. Their sponsored image is of a buxom lady offering a steak to a staffie !
There has been an update to the statement made by the photographer which clarifies things more:
"I may have been a bit harsh in my blog there - it was written during the worst of the press-attention and sometimes emotions take over. Having said that, I completly disagree with you in us having sexualised a puppy! The March-image - as you say - is the one image that is raising eye-brows - to me I understand and see what Karol Liver is projecting; nurturing! He's projecting the love, care, attention and nurtutring many women feel for their pets. To allot of people the pets are like their children and they treat them that way. When I look at the image of the puppy sleeping up against Agata's breast, I see a happy, content, cared for puppy and Agata is looking right at you as if she's asking you for your opinion....
An image very well planned, captured and very suitable for our project in raising awareness around or charity - which is ASH Animal Rescue.
The March image will of course be posted on my website - for the March month. If you have followed the press and our online presence you would have seen that we have used the march-image quiet a bit. And I know it's hard to believe - but we didn't put the image in the calendar for the shock-factor.....we were actually taken by surprise by the press and their projection of the calendar as we never expected such a media-frenzie, we thought people were more open-mineded...However as it is a fundraising-project the aim is to raise as much money as possible for the Charity, so we have to run with whatever happens - in this case all the contraversy and attention around the calendar has helped the cause and increaed the sales.
Thank you for seeing all the thought and hard work that has gone into it!
Everybody has their own opinion of the March-image - To me however, there's absolutely nothing sexual about the image."0 -
It's almost too nice to put up. I am seriously thinking of getting another one to put to one side. It will be on display & yes it will be there during March. Everyone here knows that I am bonkers so a bit of boob won't make any difference.
I think that you should get one for hubby.
To me, you have just negated your whole argument, with that statement and smiley, in my opinion you are saying that that image is sexual in nature, and that men will enjoy looking at it for that reason.0 -
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Thats fine, but all the way though you've said its art, and not sexual in nature, and now you're saying that its something different - in my opinion:D
You said that deliberately knowing that I would have to read though all the drivel that I had posted on thread to check
. I do not find the "breastfeeding" image sexual but I definitely see some of the others as sexual. Yes I know - typical man but at least I admit it . To be honest I would be far more worried if I didn't perceive them as sexual but they are definitely art.
Ok now this lady just happens to be wearing a lace up & fishnets when she decides to give the dog a cuddle but I would never interpret it as she "fancies" her dog.
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I suppose there is an equally patronising/condescending approach can be take the opposite way in that who would buy such a product, noone I know...man or woman;)
well if its not sexual then I am Brad Pitt:D
In fairness I think that the photographer has apologised for those remarks in the update above.
I think most people would accept that some images are sexual, in that the images of the women might appeal to men (EDIT. have to add gay women as my neighbour is about to order ). But they are not sexual in the sense of wanting to do inappropriate things with your dog :eek:.
Clearly some images are manufactured. You wouldn't want to risk doing this for real:
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