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Support former UCD SU president Gary Redmond

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    #122
    keepkeyyellow
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭keepkeyyellow


    does anyone remember that Gary Redmond sexline site that popped up over the summer? Shame I didn't take a screencap...


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    #123
    RandolphEsq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    unknown13 wrote: »
    That is what the Seanad tries to do but it is severely fúcked up and useless.

    The Seanad has no power, except a limited veto power, that's why it's useless.


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    #124
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,080 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    still dunno what we were being asked to support him for

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #125
    unknown13
    Registered Users Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    RandolphEsq wrote: »
    The Seanad has no power, except a limited veto power, that's why it's useless.

    That is the idea of the Seanad to have people who are specialised in certain areas. Its been tried outside of the Oireachtas and it doesn't work.


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    #126
    HomeBrewPlease
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭HomeBrewPlease


    Heres a picture of Gary telling us who to vote for

    garyredmond.jpg

    And heres one of Gary (orange hoodie) engaging in the very same type of protest he condemned others for doing

    radical-redmond.jpg


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    #127
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    HE PRESIDED OVER THE REMOVAL OF COKE ON CAMPUS!!!


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    #128
    Riamfada
    Registered Users Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    HE PRESIDED OVER THE REMOVAL OF COKE ON CAMPUS!!!

    Didnt Coke come back?


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    #129
    Pigwidgeon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    Yes but now it's gone again. UCD signed an exclusivity deal with britvic, so it's just all their products everywhere on campus now, not just in the SU shops.


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    #130
    Riamfada
    Registered Users Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Im going to start selling coke from behind the library. The good stuff.


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    #131
    Dwaegon
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dwaegon


    HomeBrewPlease wrote: »
    And heres one of Gary (orange hoodie) engaging in the very same type of protest he condemned others for doing

    He doesn't appear to be storming into a government building screaming at employees...or throwing bottles at gardai...

    You need to get yourself some perspective!


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    #132
    HomeBrewPlease
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭HomeBrewPlease


    Dwaegon wrote: »
    He doesn't appear to be storming into a government building screaming at employees...or throwing bottles at gardai...

    You need to get yourself some perspective!

    Actually Redmond condemned the sit down protest in the building and that on the road, yet he has done the same himself.

    He even described the sit in proest as "anti-social behaviour"

    He also refused to condemn the blatant acts of violence inflicted by gardai on peaceful protesters

    Here he is occupying Wicklow County Council office

    gary-redmond-occupation.jpg

    Here he is "obstructing" Gardai trying to clear the road that Redmond and co are blocking

    redmondgetsroughedup.jpg

    Hypocrite is the word that springs to mind


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    #133
    Dwaegon
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dwaegon


    HomeBrewPlease wrote: »
    Actually Redmond condemned the sit down protest in the building and that on the road, yet he has done the same himself.

    He even described the sit in proest as "anti-social behaviour"

    He also refused to condemn the blatant acts of violence inflicted by gardai on peaceful protesters

    Here he is occupying Wicklow County Council office

    gary-redmond-occupation.jpg

    Here he is "obstructing" Gardai trying to clear the road that Redmond and co are blocking

    redmondgetsroughedup.jpg

    Hypocrite is the word that springs to mind

    The sit-in protest on November 3rd was a blatantly anti-social act! The people involved were behaving like animals. Some were rabid animals wanting to take a shot at the government, and the rest were sheep, following the b@stards that goaded them toward the DoF.

    As for the obstructing picture...it appears as though Gary is walking away from the others, and an individual on the ground is trying to pull him back.

    The Wicklow County Council protest looks like it was organised by UCDSU, so they likely coordinated it. The Nov3 DoF sham of a sit-in was orchestrated by a bunch of angry leftist @$$holes who were there for their own agenda, not organised by USI.


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    #134
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Dwaegon wrote: »
    As for the obstructing picture...it appears as though Gary is walking away from the others, and an individual on the ground is trying to pull him back.

    Looks like the gardai are moving him more so.


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    #135
    sligometalhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sligometalhead


    Dwaegon wrote: »
    The sit-in protest on November 3rd was a blatantly anti-social act! The people involved were behaving like animals. Some were rabid animals wanting to take a shot at the government, and the rest were sheep, following the b@stards that goaded them toward the DoF.

    As for the obstructing picture...it appears as though Gary is walking away from the others, and an individual on the ground is trying to pull him back.

    The Wicklow County Council protest looks like it was organised by UCDSU, so they likely coordinated it. The Nov3 DoF sham of a sit-in was orchestrated by a bunch of angry leftist @$$holes who were there for their own agenda, not organised by USI.

    Wow so anti-social behaviour is only anti-social behaviour if it is not organised by USI????

    Who are the "angry leftist @$$holes" you refer to that you say organised the DoF sit-in?

    Interesting that you also, just like Redmond, completely ignore the anti-social behaviour of the Gardai acting like rabid animals cracking skulls and breaking bones of anyone they could get near regardless of if they were doing anything wrong

    As for the protest where Redmond and co blocked the road to try to block Lenihan he had to be dragged away by cops, he did not go willingly and he did not condemn that protest for anti-social behaviour.

    radicalredmond.jpg

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    #136
    Dwaegon
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dwaegon


    sligometalhead wrote: »
    Who are the "angry leftist @$$holes" you refer to that you say organised the DoF sit-in?

    Socialist Workers Party, Sinn Fein, Eirigi.


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    #137
    Handsome Bob
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    Grassroots_FF wrote: »
    Gary is now president of the USI and former SU presidents and Ents officer here at UCD. Gary has always served us well and is great craic and organised many great gigs for students. He organised the biggest march in decades as 40,000 students marched in Dublin against fees. Since he became USI president many leftie and pinko begrudgers have attempted to destroy his reputation and have alleged he is in cahoots with the government to bring in fees. I have never met a harder working individual than Gary Redmond who stands up for students and is a voice for everyone. All UCD students should stick up for Gary and tell all the moaners and whingers where to go.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SK3y1a8TYs


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    #138
    sligometalhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sligometalhead


    Dwaegon wrote: »
    Socialist Workers Party, Sinn Fein, Eirigi.

    Have you any evidence of that?


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    #139
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    sligometalhead wrote: »
    Have you any evidence of that?

    To be fair, there is plenty of visual evidence to suggest that many of the people in the DoF sit-in were members of SWP and Éirigí (not totally sure about Ógra SF but I wouldn't be surprised if they were). However, there were many people who weren't affiliated with SWP, Éirigí or SF in the DoF sit-in also. The only two people I know of who were in the DoF that day were not members of any of those organisations and I honestly couldn't imagine them as violent people (they're both in UCD and one of them has been involved in the UCDSU before). Some of what the media and right-wing dominated USI have released about the people who were involved in the sit-in is utter bull in my opinion. There were about 30-40 people in the DoF, just because 1 or 2 people act out of order (from the videos I've seen there are 1 or 2 prominent people who seemed to be causing the bother) doesn't mean they're all angry violent @ssholes.


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    #140
    sligometalhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sligometalhead


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    To be fair, there is plenty of visual evidence to suggest that many of the people in the DoF sit-in were members of SWP and Éirigí (not totally sure about Ógra SF but I wouldn't be surprised if they were). However, there were many people who weren't affiliated with SWP, Éirigí or SF in the DoF sit-in also. The only two people I know of who were in the DoF that day were not members of any of those organisations and I honestly couldn't imagine them as violent people (they're both in UCD and one of them has been involved in the UCDSU before). Some of what the media and right-wing dominated USI have released about the people who were involved in the sit-in is utter bull in my opinion. There were about 30-40 people in the DoF, just because 1 or 2 people act out of order (from the videos I've seen there are 1 or 2 prominent people who seemed to be causing the bother) doesn't mean they're all angry violent @ssholes.

    Dwaegon was claiming that SWP, SF and éirígí ORGANISED the sit in, not that there members were on the protest. As far as I know there were no éirígí members inside the DoF, though I cannot say that about SF or SWP. Even if they were so what?


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    #141
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭Blut2


    I think this talk of Socialist Workers Party, Sinn Fein, Eirigi etc is rather pointless. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of their actions the real point of this thread is that we can all agree Redmond is an awfully sleazy career politician willing to flip-flop on anything to get himself support. That and a lot worse...but only saying that should hopefully save this post from deletion!


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    #142
    Dwaegon
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dwaegon


    sligometalhead wrote: »
    Have you any evidence of that?

    Eyewitness reports on multiple counts.

    Plus if you look at any video footage there are some huge red flags with SWP on them flying. Also eirigi posters galore.


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    #143
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    sligometalhead wrote: »
    Dwaegon was claiming that SWP, SF and éirígí ORGANISED the sit in, not that there members were on the protest. As far as I know there were no éirígí members inside the DoF, though I cannot say that about SF or SWP. Even if they were so what?

    I think the SWP may have organised the sit-in. During the USI protest there was this guy with glasses (who was earlier carrying a tall SWP flag) who was ushering people into baggot street with a megaphone. I can't be sure for certain tough. Éirigí were there (their green and white flags are on camera inside the DoF) but just because they were there doesn't mean they were invited. Éirigí have a history of taking over protest, turning them violent and just generally stirring the shite. A republican socialists organisation like that is definately one you'd like to keep far far away from (they're the ones who were wearing the scarfs over their faces). The SWP (at least the Irish version) is mainly made up of "peace dude☮, let's smoke some weeeeeed" hippies (nothing wrong with hippies imo) - I think Eamon Gilmore was a member in his youth when he was President of the USI.


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    #144
    sligometalhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sligometalhead


    Dwaegon wrote: »
    Eyewitness reports on multiple counts.

    Such as?


    Plus if you look at any video footage there are some huge red flags with SWP on them flying. Also eirigi posters galore.

    Where? Inside the building?


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    #145
    sligometalhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sligometalhead


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Éirigí were there (their green and white flags are on camera inside the DoF) but just because they were there doesn't mean they were invited. Éirigí have a history of taking over protest, turning them violent and just generally stirring the shite. A republican socialists organisation like that is definately one you'd like to keep far far away from (they're the ones who were wearing the scarfs over their faces)

    Have you any links to images of these éirígí people supposedly (1) inside the building and (2) with scarves covering their faces?

    Also, you say that éirígí have a history of taking over protests and turning them violent. Some examples please????

    As to éirígí activists taking part in the student demo they have as much right as anyone else had to take part in it. It was a public demonstration


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    #146
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    sligometalhead wrote: »
    Have you any links to images of these éirígí people supposedly (1) inside the building and (2) with scarves covering their faces?

    Also, you say that éirígí have a history of taking over protests and turning them violent. Some examples please????

    As to éirígí activists taking part in the student demo they have as much right as anyone else had to take part in it. It was a public demonstration

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/adriatic22/5144778782/in/photostream/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/adriatic22/5144778550/in/photostream/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/adriatic22/5144173327/in/photostream/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/adriatic22/5144777216/in/photostream/


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    #147
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Besides, numerous intelligence sources have said that Éirigí are in fact the political wing of the Real IRA.

    They are a dangerous crowd of people who want to bring about a "socialist republic" through violent revolutionary means. They are a threat to security and democracy and are regarded as terrorists. They should be destroyed and eliminated at all costs. They are a pack of scum, unemployed, wasters with no ambition other then their own "revolutionary" interests and free drug-money from the taxpayer.

    Other left-wing movements should completely disassociate themselves from Éirigí.

    I'd even advocate an Éirigí witch-hunt. I despise them with a passion.


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    #148
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Besides, numerous intelligence sources have said that Éirigí are in fact the political wing of the Real IRA.

    They are a dangerous crowd of people who want to bring about a "socialist republic" through violent revolutionary means. They are a threat to security and democracy and are regarded as terrorists. They should be destroyed and eliminated at all costs. They are a pack of scum, unemployed, wasters with no ambition other then their own "revolutionary" interests and free drug-money from the taxpayer.

    Other left-wing movements should completely disassociate themselves from Éirigí.

    I'd even advocate an Éirigí witch-hunt. I despise them with a passion.
    That is pure 100% bollocks. What are these sources?

    éirigí have NO military wing.


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    #149
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    That is pure 100% bollocks. What are these sources?

    éirigí have NO military wing.

    You obviously have some love affair with Éirigí. How naive can you get?


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    #150
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    You obviously have some love affair with Éirigí. How naive can you get?
    Love affair? lol.

    How wrong can you get? éirigí wont even let people join who are viewed as militant. They are not paramilitary in nature.


    The RIRAs perceived political wing is the 32CSM(32 county solidarity movement), not éirigí. Get your facts right before posting complete rubbish.


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    #151
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Love affair? lol.

    How wrong can you get? éirigí wont even let people join who are viewed as militant. They are not paramilitary in nature.


    The RIRAs perceived political wing is the 32CSM(32 county solidarity movement), not éirigí. Get your facts right before posting complete rubbish.

    Also along their pals in the DoF.


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