Baby rylie broke me!

rylie

He was entertaining me with a very cute dance the other day and decided to jump headfirst off the couch- I caught him thankfully but felt a rather nasty pop in my back. Am now here in work and can barely walk up and down the stairs. Owwww :mad:

Das Kitty

rylie wrote: »

He was entertaining me with a very cute dance the other day and decided to jump headfirst off the couch- I caught him thankfully but felt a rather nasty pop in my back. Am now here in work and can barely walk up and down the stairs. Owwww :mad:

Oh gee, that's not good. You should go and see the doc. My own back isn't the best at the moment either, James is so heavy and wriggly and hasn't started walking.

rylie

Thanks Das Kitty, baby rylie isn't walking yet either I guess lugging him around isn't helping the auld back.

Took to the bed with 2 neurofen plus and a hot water bottle last night so I'm feeling a bit better today, I have a feeling it'll get worse again as the day goes on.

cbyrd

Don't bother a doctor they can't really do anything other than give you painkillers... get yourself to an osteopath or chiropractor... and dont take too many painkillers.. it a little known thing that the osteopath will tell you, when you can't feel the pain you get on with things as normal and then the painkillers wear off and you're twice as bad. Do it now don't wait speaking from years of experience

Das Kitty

cbyrd wrote: »

Don't bother a doctor they can't really do anything other than give you painkillers... get yourself to an osteopath or chiropractor... and dont take too many painkillers.. it a little known thing that the osteopath will tell you, when you can't feel the pain you get on with things as normal and then the painkillers wear off and you're twice as bad. Do it now don't wait speaking from years of experience

IMO routes of treatment should always begin with your own GP. It might feel like a waste of money but the doctor who knows your medical history is in the best position to refer you to the proper specialist.

cbyrd

Absolutely go to the gp, but a lot of gp's will hand over the prescription and send you on your way, just to let the OP be aware that other treatments are available if the gp doesn't tell you. I was never referred to another person be it physio osteopath or chiropractor, so just to be aware that they are available if the gp doesn't refer.. I had pretty serious back/hip injury after falling down the stairs and being superwoman didn''t seek the proper treatment straight away.. i went to my gp who gave me 3 injections over 6 months that just numbed the pain, turns out my right hip was badly mis aligned and took about 12 intense sessions with the osteopath to get me up and going, I'm sorry if i came across as un-gp in this instance but just from personal experience i found other treatment more beneficial... a good osteopathic clinic will take a full history both medical and of the incident that caused the injury and if they feel it necessary will advise an x-ray and/or scans .. they really are exception people and i owe the fact theat i have not had a hip replacement to my own osteopath,

Sorry for the long winded its just when i hear back injury i want to help

Das Kitty

I'm the same. It was an Osteopath who sorted me out in the end as well.

rylie

Thanks for all the replies and helpful info, really appreciate it.

Am still not great, to be brutally honest we can't afford doctors fees right now- pay day isn't till the end of the month and we're nearly overdrawn already I don't mean that to come across as a sob story, it's just the plain truth! If I felt there was something really wrong I'd find the money but I'm improving every day so I think I just pulled a muscle.

Tabnabs

cbyrd wrote: »

Don't bother a doctor they can't really do anything other than give you painkillers... get yourself to an osteopath or chiropractor... and dont take too many painkillers.. it a little known thing that the osteopath will tell you, when you can't feel the pain you get on with things as normal and then the painkillers wear off and you're twice as bad. Do it now don't wait speaking from years of experience

AHHHH, the worst advice you could give the OP. :mad:

Speaking from extensive personal experience both "occupations" are frauds. Any benefits will be strictly short term. Your GP will prescribe the correct medication if necessary (in my case valium to relax the muscles and take the pressure off the trapped nerve). He then recommended a Physiotherapist who has cured all my problems at a much faster rate and much reduced cost when compared to either an osteopath or chiropractor. I am now trouble free for three years. Six months was the best pain free period I got with the quacks.

Squiggler

Painkillers can give a false sense of wellness and may allow you to do things you really shouldn't be doing if you want to get better.

As for what other treatment to seek, well, I think if you spoke to 10 people who'd suffered from long-term back problems you'd probably get 10 different sets of advice.

The best thing that you can do is avoid doing anything that hurts, to allow your body a chance to heal the injury. And the best thing is that it doesn't cost much, although it might mean that you need to get someone to help you with Baba. If the pain persists even with rest and care then there are a lot of options out there.

Some people, myself included, would seek massage and acupuncture, others chiropractors or osteopaths... really, that's up to each individual to find out what works for them. It took me 7 years of trying to find mine.

Das Kitty

I agree Sqiuggler.

FWIW Dyflin, I had the opposite experience with Physio / Osteopaths to you. Physio only gave me about a week relief at a time.

Squiggler

Physio actually made me so much worse that my GP and one of the specialists I was attending (the Neurosurgeon) insisted that is was removed from my list of treatment options after only 3 sessions Each triggered serious migraines (one rendered me blind for a full day) that lasted for 3-4 days.

Even the specialists will tell you that everyone's different

cbyrd

Dyflin wrote: »

AHHHH, the worst advice you could give the OP. :mad:

Speaking from extensive personal experience both "occupations" are frauds. Any benefits will be strictly short term. Your GP will prescribe the correct medication if necessary (in my case valium to relax the muscles and take the pressure off the trapped nerve). He then recommended a Physiotherapist who has cured all my problems at a much faster rate and much reduced cost when compared to either an osteopath or chiropractor. I am now trouble free for three years. Six months was the best pain free period I got with the quacks.

http://www.osteopathy.org/MXENQ85VAJ

Fraud is quite a strong word don't u think?? they wouldn't be recognised professionals with years of training if it was a fraudulent occupation.

While medication will work on pain it won't relieve the skeletal mis-alignmemt. Like a car thats tracking is off, that can't be cured with an oil change...:) different treatment for different ailments..

Tabnabs

cbyrd wrote: »

http://www.osteopathy.org/MXENQ85VAJ

Fraud is quite a strong word don't u think?? they wouldn't be recognised professionals with years of training if it was a fraudulent occupation.

While medication will work on pain it won't relieve the skeletal mis-alignmemt. Like a car thats tracking is off, that can't be cured with an oil change...:) different treatment for different ailments..

With respect, the first problem with your post is it refers to a foreign osteopathy organisation that has no jurisdiction or interest in Ireland.

Osteopaths in Ireland are self regulated by the Osteopathic Council of Ireland (OCI) and have no official medical recognition and no responsibility here.

To become a recognised Osteopath you should have an honours degree in Osteopathy (minimum 4 years full time, or 5-6 years part-time). However, this is not necessarily the case as osteopaths who completed a shorter programme of training, and are currently members of another competent authority register, may still qualify for full membership without any further conditions.

So the recognition you speak of is not as shiny and exalted as it may perhaps at first seem.

However, the reason I believe fraud to be a absolutely correct term to describe most osteopaths is their own claim to be able to treat non-musculoskeletal conditions like unsettled babies, colic, wind and reflux, asthma and breathing difficulties amongst other things. There is not one iota of evidence that can be applied to back this claim up. In fact, in a very high profile UK court case this very point was famously made (chiropractors in that case).

http://www.dublinosteopathy.com/
http://www.dublinosteopath.ie/
http://www.osteopathy4health.ie/
http://www.castlewoodclinic.ie/
http://atrigg-osteopath.com/

The list goes on and on, google it and see.

To my mind, it is a very murky world where science and quackery can sometimes sit side by side. There are some conditions which may be treated (or alleviated) successfully, but then many times it's akin to your GP saying he can cure baldness or reverse the trends of ageing. He can't, but you'll have spent a lot of money with him before you discover this...

cbyrd

Dyflin wrote: »

With respect, the first problem with your post is it refers to a foreign osteopathy organisation that has no jurisdiction or interest in Ireland.

Osteopaths in Ireland are self regulated by the Osteopathic Council of Ireland (OCI) and have no official medical recognition and no responsibility here.

To become a recognised Osteopath you should have an honours degree in Osteopathy (minimum 4 years full time, or 5-6 years part-time). However, this is not necessarily the case as osteopaths who completed a shorter programme of training, and are currently members of another competent authority register, may still qualify for full membership without any further conditions.

So the recognition you speak of is not as shiny and exalted as it may perhaps at first seem.

However, the reason I believe fraud to be a absolutely correct term to describe most osteopaths is their own claim to be able to treat non-musculoskeletal conditions like unsettled babies, colic, wind and reflux, asthma and breathing difficulties amongst other things. There is not one iota of evidence that can be applied to back this claim up. In fact, in a very high profile UK court case this very point was famously made (chiropractors in that case).

http://www.dublinosteopathy.com/
http://www.dublinosteopath.ie/
http://www.osteopathy4health.ie/
http://www.castlewoodclinic.ie/
http://atrigg-osteopath.com/

The list goes on and on, google it and see.

To my mind, it is a very murky world where science and quackery can sometimes sit side by side. There are some conditions which may be treated (or alleviated) successfully, but then many times it's akin to your GP saying he can cure baldness or reverse the trends of ageing. He can't, but you'll have spent a lot of money with him before you discover this...

http://www.osteopathy.ie/

Sorry i forgot to include the irish one.

All i can say is if i had just attended my Gp for my injury i would have under gone a hip replacement after about 5 years, this would've made me 28 needing a new hip.
My husband after a broken wrist suffered years of pain... went to his gp and was given painkillers and a medication for arthritis.. after 3 month and no change he went to the physio who sent him to the osteopath who sent him for an xray to discover his scaffoid bone was still broken. He needed a bone graft from his hip..

My experience with different gp's relating to bone or muscle damage is not good. They tend to hand you a prescription and send you on you merry way. When i have muscle spasm in my back i go for physio, i have electric treatment that regulates the electric pulses in the muscle and stops the spasm, then i have massage to get rid of the knot that caused it in the first instance, medication will not get rid of the knot, the spasm will go eventually but i don't want to take a load of drugs if i dont' have to.

http://www.osteopathy.ie/membership

There are currently no courses available in Ireland to train as an osteopath but to operate you must be registered. And there is criteria that has to be satisfied. this includes 1000 hours of supervised clinical tuition and be available to undergo an assesment.

OCI reserves the right to request all members to complete an assessment procedure to ensure and maintain the highest standard of practice. OCI is in the process of applying for full Irish State regulation under the Health and Social Care Professionals Act (2005), and will ensure that where at all possible the OCI assessment procedure will be adequate to access this Act.

Of course there are some bad ones out there just as there are bad doctors nurses surgeons etc. but like any treatment you go for you always should check them out and get a recommendation.