Target for Feb 14th

Bumsex

Kod-box wrote: »

Well done man.

Just seen that Miami score now, and made a mental note never back them without LeBron :pac:

thanks

ya thats 2 back to back losses now for them..
when i first knew lebron was out i was re-thinking the overs bet,but then researched his stats on defense,and he is just as effected as a defensive player as he is offensive.
They really struggled without him,even though they put up a decent score themselves denver were cruising throughout the game..Hitting 3 pointers for fun..
But when lebron is back i will be definitely taking them to cover the spread no matter what it is as they will try to get back to winning ways as quickly as possible,and as effective as possible to prove that they are still the number 1 team..

Kod-box

Yeah they will be unstoppable and probably win it out, i'd love to see the Celtics win it though.

fishboy1974

Just stumblem upon your thread.

Very impressive, would love to have the bottle and cash to wager like this.

Well done

Bumsex

This is just a race that i have been looking forward to before christmas and is a race that i would love to solve.
A very competitive grade 1 race where claims could be made for nearly every horse. Its a smallish field but never the less a very hard one to solve and i think if you asked 3 knowledgeable people they would give you 3 different horses.

Khyber Kim wasn't far away in the Champion and comes on very good form,[/B],won on heavy ground so conditions no matter how much rain falls it wont be too soft,runs fresh and should go well,Khyber Kim will be viewed as the bit of value in the field.. on the other hand both Starluck and Binocular last time behind the very impressive Peddlers Cross was fairly disappointing.


There is questions over whether or not Binocular is only at its best in march..I'd look at it this way,Binocular is the best horse in the race based on his Champion Hurdle win;

Starluck needs good ground and he wont be getting that so wont feature in my view.Starluck is the probably the one for those who like course form though;

Overturn is the key horse as he will more than likely be the leading horse at a very early stage.

The key to solving this race is the pace that will be set by Overturn,i think it will play into the hands of Binocular and seriously increase its chances, who absolutely thrives off a fast gallop and looks the safer horse to be on when push comes to shove in the final furlong..
Winning tomorrow will prove that he is much better than a spring horse..

I would of had a big bet on Binocular to win (300) and a smaller bet of (100) on a double of Binocular and Kauto Star.But as i already have a big bet on Kauto Star tomo and have reached my target i wont be placing the bets, i dont want to go back down below my target
So to round off the log il be placing,

KEMPTON
14:25 CHRISTMAS HURDLE GRADE 1 2m
2011-01-15 14:25:00
Win or each way
Binocular 5/2
1/4 places 1,2

75



Balance after bet placed = €6000
Profit=€3500

UrbanSea

Bumsex wrote: »

This is just a race that i have been looking forward to before christmas and is a race that i would love to solve.
A very competitive grade 1 race where claims could be made for nearly every horse. Its a smallish field but never the less a very hard one to solve and i think if you asked 3 knowledgeable people they would give you 3 different horses.

Khyber Kim wasn't far away in the Champion and comes on very good form,[/B],won on heavy ground so conditions no matter how much rain falls it wont be too soft,runs fresh and should go well,Khyber Kim will be viewed as the bit of value in the field.. on the other hand both Starluck and Binocular last time behind the very impressive Peddlers Cross was fairly disappointing.


There is questions over whether or not Binocular is only at its best in march..I'd look at it this way,Binocular is the best horse in the race based on his Champion Hurdle win;

Starluck needs good ground and he wont be getting that so wont feature in my view.Starluck is the probably the one for those who like course form though;

Overturn is the key horse as he will more than likely be the leading horse at a very early stage.

The key to solving this race is the pace that will be set by Overturn,i think it will play into the hands of Binocular and seriously increase its chances, who absolutely thrives off a fast gallop and looks the safer horse to be on when push comes to shove in the final furlong..
Winning tomorrow will prove that he is much better than a spring horse..

I would of had a big bet on Binocular to win (300) and a smaller bet of (100) on a double of Binocular and Kauto Star.But as i already have a big bet on Kauto Star tomo and have reached my target i wont be placing the bets, i dont want to go back down below my target
So to round off the log il be placing,

KEMPTON
14:25 CHRISTMAS HURDLE GRADE 1 2m
2011-01-15 14:25:00
Win or each way
Binocular 5/2
1/4 places 1,2

75



Balance after bet placed = €6000
Profit=€3500

Not true in my view. Was beaten a short head in this very race last year on the very same ground,ahead of Binocular. Myself you and Pyro all have different bets in the race,I'd laugh if it was a 3 way dead hear :cool:

Bumsex

greetings wrote: »

Not true in my view. Was beaten a short head in this very race last year on the very same ground,ahead of Binocular. Myself you and Pyro all have different bets in the race,I'd laugh if it was a 3 way dead hear :cool:

well thas my take on the events anyway,as i said if you ask 3 different people you are going to get 3 different horses,its just my opinion anyway.
my main 1 is kauto star but i would love to get this race solved though..

UrbanSea

I was referring to the ground. Hope Kauto wins,what a horse.

Bumsex

greetings wrote: »

I was referring to the ground. Hope Kauto wins,what a horse.

i know but i dont think he will handle the ground like i said..


ya it would be nice for kauto to make history tomo,it will be a hard test though,just hoping for a good run..
value now gone though,i couldnt get involved at those prices,especially with some great horses in the field going up against him

UrbanSea

Think he's good for tomorrow,Gold Cup is hard to call. He's getting old but I still can't write him off.
There aren't any great horses in that race bar him I think.The Nightingale and Riverside Theatre could be the two closest,but I wouldn't think either would get within twenty lengths of his performance last year.

Bumsex

greetings wrote: »

Think he's good for tomorrow,Gold Cup is hard to call. He's getting old but I still can't write him off.
There aren't any great horses in that race bar him I think.The Nightingale and Riverside Theatre could be the two closest,but I wouldn't think either would get within twenty lengths of his performance last year.

True,on official ratings this bunch of opponents is arguably the least demanding he has ever faced in his previous visits to Kempton.Its just hard to look past that age as you said,its the only worry for me.
I do think that he might just have to work harder than many people expect tomorrow.I really only backed him as he was at a value price at evens, his history and that he will be up against as i said the worst field he has met to date..

x PyRo

Best of luck with Kauto dude, hope he wins for the horses sake and yours. Even though I opposed him!

I hope Binocular loses though, can't stand that horse for some reason. :pac: The problem with him, is despite being well clear on OR, he rarely ever runs to that rating, or anything even close. Mainly because he's not let I'd imagine, just to have him sweet and minus any real tough races once Cheltenham comes around.

Wouldn't think Starluck has any ground issues, especially at Kempton as he handles soft on other tracks but is ideally suited to the flat nature of Kempton. His problem is that he's not good enough imo and I don't think he'll be in the top 2. Not sure how he's a 160 horse, hasn't even won a Graded race, but he is consistent in good races which might explain it.

Should be interesting regardless and it'll be a joy to behold, no matter how much cold hard cash I'll inevitably lose. :pac:

Bumsex

x PyRo wrote: »

Best of luck with Kauto dude, hope he wins for the horses sake and yours. Even though I opposed him!

I hope Binocular loses though, can't stand that horse for some reason. :pac: The problem with him, is despite being well clear on OR, he rarely ever runs to that rating, or anything even close. Mainly because he's not let I'd imagine, just to have him sweet and minus any real tough races once Cheltenham comes around.

Wouldn't think Starluck has any ground issues, especially at Kempton as he handles soft on other tracks but is ideally suited to the flat nature of Kempton. His problem is that he's not good enough imo and I don't think he'll be in the top 2. Not sure how he's a 160 horse, hasn't even won a Graded race, but he is consistent in good races which might explain it.

Should be interesting regardless and it'll be a joy to behold, no matter how much cold hard cash I'll inevitably lose. :pac:

that was my main concern as i was saying he is a spring horse,but im hopefull he will be "let run",
tbh,im not that bothered if binocular losses but i just wanted to give the race a go of my 'knowledge' and to round off the log.
hope your fella romps home in style as you deserve a turn of luck..:)

x PyRo

It's so hard to get any JP McManus horse right, especially one as awkward as Binocular. He's be a mighty fine winner for you to end your massively successful log with but I've a nice lump on Escort'man so please spare me from losing more cash. :pac:

Kauto should romp in for you though and you've a serious price. I wouldn't take evens myself as I'm just awkward like that but it looks massive now. Hopefully he'll dot in and both you and the horse will be delighted, with Riverside Theatre coming second so I'll be delighted too.

Keep up the good work dude.

(Still can't bring myself to call you by your name, so "mate" and "dude" will have to do. :pac:)

Bumsex

x PyRo wrote: »

It's so hard to get any JP McManus horse right, especially one as awkward as Binocular. He's be a mighty fine winner for you to end your massively successful log with but I've a nice lump on Escort'man so please spare me from losing more cash. :pac:

Kauto should romp in for you though and you've a serious price. I wouldn't take evens myself as I'm just awkward like that but it looks massive now. Hopefully he'll dot in and both you and the horse will be delighted, with Riverside Theatre coming second so I'll be delighted too.

Keep up the good work dude.

(Still can't bring myself to call you by your name, so "mate" and "dude" will have to do. :pac:)

tbh i wouldn't be surprised to see kauto lose either,he will go down in the history books if he does win but hes pushing on in age,and isnt as good as he once used to be,well on recent form anyway,,
i might even lay him in running, il see how he is traveling, as there is a nice bit on him.

i knew that name would cause a bit of bother but thats just me..:P
best of luck anyway Monterosso..;):pac:

Juwwi

Well done on meeting your target bumsex credit where credit is due.

The basketball seems to be your strong point from reading through the last few pages it seems loads have been cleaning up on the basketball.

Do you think if you stuck to pre start of events bets in a log and did'nt do in running it would be as easy to make consistant profits as to watching to get a feel of games.

The only reason l ask is you are always going to have your knockers and sceptical people
while backing in running as the odds change so fast especially in basketball by the time you put your bet on and log it here it could be a 5 point swing (either way).

Altough you are doing a good job silencing the knockers this thread
does'nt seem to have any swearing or blackeyes :pac:.

UrbanSea

greetings wrote: »

Think he's good for tomorrow,Gold Cup is hard to call. He's getting old but I still can't write him off.
There aren't any great horses in that race bar him I think.The Nightingale and Riverside Theatre could be the two closest,but I wouldn't think either would get within twenty lengths of his performance last year.

Bumsex wrote: »

tbh i wouldn't be surprised to see kauto lose either,he will go down in the history books if he does win but hes pushing on in age,and isnt as good as he once used to be,well on recent form anyway,,
i might even lay him in running, il see how he is traveling, as there is a nice bit on him.

i knew that name would cause a bit of bother but thats just me..:P
best of luck anyway Monterosso..;):pac:

That's being discussed over in the horse racing forum,plenty of people over there nearly killed people for saying that :cool:

UrbanSea

Edit:That first quote wasn't meant to come up

Bumsex

robbie1977 wrote: »

Well done on meeting your target bumsex credit where credit is due.

The basketball seems to be your strong point from reading through the last few pages it seems loads have been cleaning up on the basketball.

Do you think if you stuck to pre start of events bets in a log and did'nt do in running it would be as easy to make consistant profits as to watching to get a feel of games.

The only reason l ask is you are always going to have your knockers and sceptical people
while backing in running as the odds change so fast especially in basketball by the time you put your bet on and log it here it could be a 5 point swing (either way).

Altough you are doing a good job silencing the knockers this thread
does'nt seem to have any swearing or blackeyes :pac:.

No,simple but true,,i would still however make a profit as only 2 out of about 16 basketball bets did not go over the sp spread but did go over my in play spread,since im betting relatively big stakes too,if i did take sp on these 2 bets i would be 600 out of pocket, im not going to change the way i bet on basketball just to silence a few critics..:rolleyes:

those knockers and skeptical people are going to question any bet i do no matter in play or sp,i have learned to deal with it as it has followed me from log to log..
dont understand your last line..?

thanks btw.

panthera

the last line was fairly explanatry to be fair :-)

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Hadn't realised you'd made the 6k yet. Fcuk that, very well done Bumsex.

Juwwi

Bumsex wrote: »

No,simple but true,,i would still however make a profit as only 2 out of about 16 basketball bets did not go over the sp


dont understand your last line..?

14 from 16 going over the sp is very impressive.

Ah was only joking meaning there was no arguing questioning compared to last log.



One last question if you dont mind l've noticed people saying things like pp are over 192.5 but will hill are over 196.5 ,does that happen much in running or are bokies generally running off the sames lines as you could back over 192.5 and under 196.5 for a free bet with the hope of hitting the jackpot ,thats what l would of done in that situation.

Good luck with Kauto Star l think he'll win.
Ruby Walsh is on the morning line according to another forum btw.

panthera

People are going over the top here.great profit made,fair dues.but losing 450euro on a single basketball bet??ridiculous!smacks of indiscipline.Its quite clear 2 me you dont hav a clue about basketball from your crap copy and pastes.i dnt care what u made that night or since.im sure you'll be a short time winner,but no doubt with your mentality a long-term loser.

blindpilot

How the hell have I missed this log? Fair play man you've done extremely well. I will be waiting for your next target log so I can follow you and pay off my debts.:D

yesno1234

panthera wrote: »

People are going over the top here.great profit made,fair dues.but losing 450euro on a single basketball bet??ridiculous!smacks of indiscipline.Its quite clear 2 me you dont hav a clue about basketball from your crap copy and pastes.i dnt care what u made that night or since.im sure you'll be a short time winner,but no doubt with your mentality a long-term loser.

This has been mentioned numerous times already on here; just look at his previous logs he has never made a loss in any of his logs on here.He lost 450 on a single basketball bet, but how much did he win on them, he won 7/9 bets.

blindpilot

panthera wrote: »

People are going over the top here.great profit made,fair dues.but losing 450euro on a single basketball bet??ridiculous!smacks of indiscipline.Its quite clear 2 me you dont hav a clue about basketball from your crap copy and pastes.i dnt care what u made that night or since.im sure you'll be a short time winner,but no doubt with your mentality a long-term loser.

Its entirely up to the person what they want to bet. Seeing as the profit has been so big it probably doesnt matter a whole lot (pure speculation). i know I'd do it myself if I was playing with that amount of money I'd won.

panthera

Ya i said fair dues on profit made.And i said i dont care how much he's made since.i've a strong suspicion he doesn't log all his bets.im just pointing out his indiscipline.he doesn't understand basketball.thats why eventually he'll give it all back + more.

panthera

ye guys must be mugs?!it only takes a few of those uninformed, silly bets to get in serious debt.and its a certain mentality that facilitates it.

Bumsex

robbie1977 wrote: »

14 from 16 going over the sp is very impressive.

Ah was only joking meaning there was no arguing questioning compared to last log.



One last question if you dont mind l've noticed people saying things like pp are over 192.5 but will hill are over 196.5 ,does that happen much in running or are bokies generally running off the sames lines as you could back over 192.5 and under 196.5 for a free bet with the hope of hitting the jackpot ,thats what l would of done in that situation.

Good luck with Kauto Star l think he'll win.
Ruby Walsh is on the morning line according to another forum btw.

you obviously havent read the whole log through so..:pac:

robbie you will be very surprised.
last night there was a 11 point difference between the line at half time in the miami game between pp and william hill,i opened an account with them recently as there lines are severely slow..:D

its not a free bet either,e.g 150 on overs 190.5 150 on unders 200.5,final score 203,lose 1 win 1,odds =10/11=€14 loss.

panthera wrote: »

People are going over the top here.great profit made,fair dues.but losing 450euro on a single basketball bet??ridiculous!smacks of indiscipline.Its quite clear 2 me you dont hav a clue about basketball from your crap copy and pastes.i dnt care what u made that night or since.im sure you'll be a short time winner,but no doubt with your mentality a long-term loser.

that will be the day...:pac:

seriously though, not getting involved in this crap again..
short and sweet,,proven track record,no losing log the last year,made around 16000 profit,most of it is invested so can never lose the money.

panthera

Enjoy it :-)

Juwwi

robbie1977 wrote: »

Ah was only joking meaning there was no arguing questioning compared to last log.

l jinxed it posting that :(