Irish Daily Star Sunday closing up

spider guardian · 06-01-2011 2:10pm #1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jan/06/express-newspapers-ireland

Just as well, it's a sin to be killing poor innocent trees to print this rubbish. Haven't looked at it in years but I remember seeing it in the canteen at work years ago and the only function it seemed to provide was to chronicle every little aspect of Brian McFadden's life. One time it even had a frontpage story about how he brought his laundry back to Kerry's to be washed.

But I'm sure it was great for the sport though!

Pace2008 · 06-01-2011 2:24pm

Let this be a start of things to come.

thebigbiffo · 06-01-2011 2:32pm

Pace2008 wrote: »

Let this be a start of things to come.

you like when 17 people lose their jobs? nobody forces you the read the thing ffs.

Venom · 06-01-2011 2:33pm

Maybe the Herald will be next

Biggins · 06-01-2011 2:34pm

I don't like the paper (or its ilk with dumbed down and celeb' material) but sorry to hear that there will be many out of work.

Adriatic · 06-01-2011 2:39pm

Aw, only the Sunday version... :mad:

gurramok · 06-01-2011 2:39pm

Never heard or had seen a Sunday version of that paper before.

admiralofthefleet · 06-01-2011 2:40pm

Biggins wrote: »

I don't like the paper (or its ilk with dumbed down and celeb' material) but sorry to hear that there will be many out of work.

me too, i had trouble with celtic bookies this time last year over a bet i won that wasnt honoured, i boycotted them and sent a petition and in the end i won the bet. i stayed away from them but would never want any of their staff to lose their jobs (exept maybe maybe catherine in the harolds cross shop)

JustAddWater · 06-01-2011 2:42pm

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

me too, i had trouble with celtic bookies this time last year over a bet i won that wasnt honoured, i boycotted them and sent a petition and in the end i won the bet. i stayed away from them but would never want any of their staff to lose their jobs (exept maybe maybe catherine in the harolds cross shop)

emmm... will you tell him or should I?

Hazys · 06-01-2011 2:42pm

I am devastated.

/* Sarcasm detector blows up /*

Pace2008 · 06-01-2011 2:44pm

thebigbiffo wrote: »

you like when 17 people lose their jobs? nobody forces you the read the thing ffs.

I don't read it, but others did (obviously not enough) and people do take to heart the things they read in these rags. No one coerces me into reading the Daily Mail, or listen to Joe Duffy, but their influence on certain demographics is undeniable.

Look, it's sad to see these people out of work in a climate where employment is difficult to come by, but I honestly believe that tabloid newspapers and associated media forms are amongst the most detrimental institutions to modern society. If every employee in the country were to lose their jobs I'd say it was for the greater good if it were to bring these organisations down.

Having said that, I'm not even sure if it's the red-tops that engineer an environment of hate and fear, or if they're just a reflection of society's dark undercurrent.

AckwelFoley · 06-01-2011 2:47pm

Dont worry - those 17 people will be snapped up quick and wont be out of a job for long.

I hear there are positions open to be filled with McHale farm machinery looking for people to test the best way to spread sh1t

Naikon · 06-01-2011 2:47pm

I hope the Herald or the Star is next.

Run_to_da_hills · 06-01-2011 2:48pm

Pity it wasn't the Sindo.

listermint · 06-01-2011 2:49pm

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

me too, i had trouble with celtic bookies this time last year over a bet i won that wasnt honoured, i boycotted them and sent a petition and in the end i won the bet. i stayed away from them but would never want any of their staff to lose their jobs (exept maybe maybe catherine in the harolds cross shop)

Em... reread the OPs thread...

Naikon · 06-01-2011 2:50pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Pity it wasn't the Sindo.

Yeah, true. The "indo" reads more like a tabloid than a proper obectively written broadsheet. Basically, if it isn't the times or the examiner, it's toilet paper. Not that the above papers are 100% spot on either...

AckwelFoley · 06-01-2011 2:50pm

listermint wrote: »

Em... reread the OPs thread...

he did - read the thread. Hes talking about not holding grudges towards staff

Dempo1 · 06-01-2011 2:55pm

Complete pile of ****e, good ridence, hopefully the indo won't be too long to follow! christ almighty what has happened to print journalism in Ireland!

There's more news in a Lidl insert these days!

spider guardian · 06-01-2011 2:56pm

thebigbiffo wrote: »

you like when 17 people lose their jobs? nobody forces you the read the thing ffs.

Nobody said anything about liking the fact that 17 people lost their jobs. But one less paper full of mindless rubbish is a good thing.

silverspoon · 06-01-2011 2:59pm

This is terrible news for newsagencies...they used to come with the inserts already in.

thebigbiffo · 06-01-2011 3:05pm

Pace2008 wrote: »

I
Having said that, I'm not even sure if it's the red-tops that engineer an environment of hate and fear, or if they're just a reflection of society's dark undercurrent.

this paragraph makes sense...the rest doesn't.

i see your point but you just can't wish for a whole industry to fold, and important one for society at that. newspapers, even the ones you do not agree with, inform and interest people in many different ways...not everybody is as educated or disinterested in celebrity culture as you. i dont rate the daily star as a serious paper but i look at it most days - it's got good racing coverage, light entertainment, a bit of tit and you'l come across the odd feature that might actually be quite good (normally on music or films)...when i want serious politics and finance i'll reach for the times. thats the end of it, they have an audience, it's a business, leave them be.

Naikon · 06-01-2011 3:10pm

thebigbiffo wrote: »

this paragraph makes sense...the rest doesn't.

i see your point but you just can't wish for a whole industry to fold, and important one for society at that. newspapers, even the ones you do not agree with, inform and interest people in many different ways...not everybody is as educated or disinterested in celebrity culture as you. i dont rate the daily star as a serious paper but i look at it most days - it's got good racing coverage, light entertainment, a bit of tit and you'l come across the odd feature that might actually be quite good (normally on music or films)...when i want serious politics and finance i'll reach for the times. thats the end of it, they have an audience, it's a business, leave them be.

They tend to spread misinformation. Society would benefit from a lack of tabloid papers.

ejmaztec · 06-01-2011 3:11pm

What am I going to do now to get an in-depth analysis of the financial markets?:(

Dempo1 · 06-01-2011 3:12pm

spider guardian wrote: »

Nobody said anything about liking the fact that 17 people lost their jobs. But one less paper full of mindless rubbish is a good thing.

Was there actually people employed to put this rag together:eek:Eeek!

Pace2008 · 06-01-2011 3:24pm

thebigbiffo wrote: »

not everybody is as educated or disinterested in celebrity culture as you. i dont rate the daily star as a serious paper but i look at it most days - it's got good racing coverage, light entertainment, a bit of tit and you'l come across the odd feature that might actually be quite good (normally on music or films)

I've heard this before and fair enough, I realise there are areas of merit in thesepapers; diamonds in the rough so to speak. As someone’s mentioned, they often display a decent level of reporting sports issues that jars with the dross in the latter half of the publication.

It’s not even the fixation on celebrity culture that annoys me. Yes I think it’s vapid, but I’d say that people as a whole have always been nosey *****, and it’s only with the advent of mass-media and the rapid spread of information that this has become apparent.

My problem with them is that aside from the aforementioned, they also invariably encourage witch-hunting and mob mentality, a guilty until proven innocent attitude; they misrepresent science and medicine, and help spread on overall attitude of hatred and bigotry. You can’t go to the newsagents and pull out the harmless parts of the paper you like – it’s a package, and even if you just ignore the negative aspects of the publication you are still funding an institution that helps propagate them

That is why I can’t bring myself to shed a tear over this news.

renegadebadger · 06-01-2011 5:43pm

I worked for the Star Sunday for three years and I personally know most of the people getting laid off, so obviously I find some of the posts here pretty crass.

It's difficulty for me to make a fair comment in these circumstances, but as an experienced journo there are still a few things worth mentioning:

After ten years in print, I can say for certain that there is no tabloid/broadsheet divide where the red tops spread misinformation and slander and the "grown-up" newspapers are providing purely factual, unbiased coverage. I also worked for the Guardian and they are one of the worst offenders for twisting facts, although the Telegraph is the absolute pits. Of the national British and Irish newspapers, I would trust only the Financial Times and maybe the Irish Times.

Clearly though the tabloids, and Richard Desmond's Express titles in particular, are serial offenders here. But I think it's fair to see that society get the media it deserves; if there are people buying tabloids then companies will continue to produce tabloids.

If the Star Sunday had closed because the Irish people had taken to reading the Economist, then maybe those celebrating its demise would be justified in making their comments, although I would still think it is insensitive to mock those who have lost their jobs during a chronic downturn for the industry.

But they're not buying the Economist, they're reading the Sunday World, or the Mail, or they're going online to read more of the same. So don't present this as a victory for society.

JP Liz V1 · 06-01-2011 5:54pm

The Irish Daily Star Sunday newspaper is to shut down with the loss of 17 jobs, it has been announced. The newspaper had made no money since it was set up in 2003 and lost more than 1 million euro last year.
Paul Cooke, managing director of owners Independent Star, said it was expecting to make even more losses on the venture in the year ahead.
Staff called to a meeting at the group's new offices in Dundrum Town Centre on Thursday morning were shocked at the decision to close the newspaper.
Some had been expecting an internal merger with its sister paper, the Irish Daily Star. Mr Cooke told workers a recent High Court case against Independent Star had not helped their financial woes.
The group was fined 40,000 euro for contempt of court and would have faced significant legal costs after the Sunday paper was found to have defamed a convicted child porn user.
Mr Cooke said the closure will have no impact on the Irish Daily Star, which he said has always generated a profit and was expected to make almost 6 million euro for last year.
He blamed the economic downturn and below-cost selling by UK-based Sunday titles in Ireland for the Sunday newspaper's demise.
He said: "This has been a difficult decision and I want to pay tribute to the professionalism and hard work of all the staff of Irish Daily Star Sunday. I also want to acknowledge and thank the advertising and marketing industry in Ireland for their support for the paper.
"Unfortunately the deterioration in market conditions particularly over the last two years has left the company with no option but to cease publication of the Sunday paper."

There is way too many papers around anyways but sorry to hear of the job cuts

JONJO THE MISER · 06-01-2011 6:28pm

Heap of trash, good riddiance.

Minstrel27 · 06-01-2011 6:35pm

I never knew such a rag existed. I am assuming that it was the daily version but on a grander scale.

aDeener · 06-01-2011 6:54pm

some of those 17 people are ones who wrote and spread pure lies and rubbish. no sympathy from me for those particular ones

AckwelFoley · 06-01-2011 7:05pm

renegadebadger wrote: »

After ten years in print, I can say for certain that there is no tabloid/broadsheet divide where the red tops spread misinformation and slander and the "grown-up" newspapers are providing purely factual, unbiased coverage..

The "grown up" papers tend not to post pictures of and discuss what colour katie perrys knickers are, and while i do have more than a passing interest in the contents of her knickers, if i want to see said contents i'll buy her dinner and a drink first - not a newspaper.

But you are correct people do buy the red tops, and we get what we pay for. I am sorry people have lost their jobs - im not sorry the sunday star is not printed anymore.

Irish Daily Star Sunday closing up

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