Exceptional Images from Lourdes.

Guillaume · 06-01-2011 9:14pm #1

Lourdes is a popular pilgrimage among the Irish people. While Medj is in the "competition" Lourdes remains strong, as a rock.

Those images had been taken very recently and show the deep side of the grotto when the Holy Virgin, Mother of our Lord, appeared to Bernadette.

Enjoy !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGoB9gwZh7k&feature=player_embedded

antiskeptic · 06-01-2011 9:34pm

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A rather unexceptional image from Lourdes. One can't help note the blue (Mary Mother) capped 1/2 litre 'bulk' bottles at the bottom. Nor the 25% off flash sticker.

As a matter of interest, just how much does a bottle of holy water cost? Is it like "Oirish Spring Waaters*"- in most cases tapped from a commoner garden hole in the ground and filtered to bejaysus. Perhaps it's piped from the tap out the back... like the rest of Oirish Spring Waater*.

*the chap who does the water treatment in our plant also does the main Oirish Spring Waater plants too.

Guillaume · 06-01-2011 9:40pm

antiskeptic wrote: »

A rather unexceptional image from Lourdes.

You must be blind then, go back to your booze.... : )

antiskeptic · 06-01-2011 9:51pm

Guillaume wrote: »

You must be blind then

By Jove, I think you're right.

It would appear (on blowing the image up) that the cost per 1/2" litre is 6 euros. Pricey that..

georgieporgy · 06-01-2011 10:12pm

Guillaume wrote: »

Lourdes is a popular pilgrimage among the Irish people. While Medj is in the "competition" Lourdes remains strong, as a rock.

Those images had been taken very recently and show the deep side of the grotto when the Holy Virgin, Mother of our Lord, appeared to Bernadette.

Enjoy !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGoB9gwZh7k&feature=player_embedded

Thanks for that link. Some nice videos there . I've never been to Lourdes, - saving it for later. I figure when I get my bus pass it would be good to have new places to visit ( there's no need for someone to jump in now protesting that the bus pass won't work in France. don't spoil it for me)

Guillaume · 06-01-2011 10:45pm

antiskeptic wrote: »

A rather unexceptional image from Lourdes. One can't help note the blue (Mary Mother) capped 1/2 litre 'bulk' bottles at the bottom. Nor the 25% off flash sticker.

As a matter of interest, just how much does a bottle of holy water cost? Is it like "Oirish Spring Waaters*"- in most cases tapped from a commoner garden hole in the ground and filtered to bejaysus. Perhaps it's piped from the tap out the back... like the rest of Oirish Spring Waater*.

*the chap who does the water treatment in our plant also does the main Oirish Spring Waater plants too.

It costs nothing : Grace and Mercy of the Lord is free.

antiskeptic · 06-01-2011 11:03pm

Guillaume wrote: »

It costs nothing : Grace and Mercy of the Lord is free.

If the grace and mercy of the Lord is doled out via 6 euro/0.5 litre bottles of water then it isn't free - per definition. If it isn't doled out so, then you've evaded the issue of 6 euro/0.5 ltr bottles of 'holy' water.

Perhaps they're empty. Which begs another question.

Guillaume · 06-01-2011 11:08pm

antiskeptic wrote: »

If the grace and mercy of the Lord is doled out via 6 euro/0.5 litre bottles of water then it isn't free - per definition. If it isn't doled out so, then you've evaded the issue of 6 euro/0.5 ltr bottles of 'holy' water.

Perhaps they're empty. Which begs another question.

What is wrong with you ? The Water from Lourdes is FREE. Free, free, and free. I am obviously dealing with an atheist there, with a blinded perspective. Fair enough, but this post is for the faithful.

Onesimus · 07-01-2011 12:29am

antiskeptic wrote: »

If the grace and mercy of the Lord is doled out via 6 euro/0.5 litre bottles of water then it isn't free - per definition. If it isn't doled out so, then you've evaded the issue of 6 euro/0.5 ltr bottles of 'holy' water.

Perhaps they're empty. Which begs another question.

And protestants sell Bibles? *shock* the word of God? being sold by protestants at the lovely price of 20 euro or so? :eek: Oh the scandal.

It is the bottles that are being priced and the money being put to good use.

liamw · 07-01-2011 1:00am

Guillaume wrote: »

I am obviously dealing with an atheist there, with a blinded perspective.

ye.. antiskeptic is obviously an atheist

shawman · 13-10-2011 8:54am

Some unusual images here.
http://www.lourdesgrottotravel.com/autumnal-sun/

gimmebroadband · 13-10-2011 11:21am

Onesimus wrote: »

And protestants sell Bibles? *shock* the word of God? being sold by protestants at the lovely price of 20 euro or so? :eek: Oh the scandal.

It is the bottles that are being priced and the money being put to good use.

The Bible is also 2nd hand with a few chapters missing! :pac:

Never been to Lourdes either......some day hopefully!

branie · 13-10-2011 11:59am

I've been to Lourdes 3 times, and loved the experience :-)

homer911 · 13-10-2011 12:13pm

I'm pretty sure there's a Protestant/Catholic thread for some of these comments..

Everyone knows that non-Catholics think Catholic "sites of pilgrimage" are a complete scam

Tea_Bag · 13-10-2011 12:25pm

homer911 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there's a Protestant/Catholic thread for some of these comments..

Everyone knows that non-Catholics think Catholic "sites of pilgrimage" are a complete scam

that's because it is.

gimmebroadband · 13-10-2011 1:35pm

Tea_Bag wrote: »

that's because it is.

No so to thousands that have been cured there!

Here are two of note:

http://olrl.org/stories/lourdes.shtml

MagicMarker · 13-10-2011 1:38pm

gimmebroadband wrote: »

No so to thousands that have been cured there!

Here are two of note:

http://olrl.org/stories/lourdes.shtml

Thousands out of how many million?

gimmebroadband · 13-10-2011 2:18pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Thousands out of how many million?

How many miracles do you need to prove that Our Lady appeared in Lourdes, obvious several thousand cures isn't enough for some???

antiskeptic · 13-10-2011 2:39pm

gimmebroadband wrote: »

No so to thousands that have been cured there!

Here are two of note:

http://olrl.org/stories/lourdes.shtml

Anything a little more recent that 1870 & 1914? Something that rises above the God-channel level televangelism healing?

Let's say someone cured of an amputated arm. Or a missing eye. Before and after photo's included (verified as being actually before and after, naturally

).

Or does 'Mary' only do the kind of healings that require large doses of faith in order that they be believed in?

copeyhagen · 13-10-2011 2:47pm

gimmebroadband wrote: »

How many miracles do you need to prove that Our Lady appeared in Lourdes, obvious several thousand cures isn't enough for some???

you cant prove, nor can anyone else, all these miracles happened in a time when no evidence can be provided to backup the crazy stories..

funny that

MagicMarker · 13-10-2011 2:47pm

gimmebroadband wrote: »

How many miracles do you need to prove that Our Lady appeared in Lourdes, obvious several thousand cures isn't enough for some???

It's not a miracle if it happens a few thousand times out of a few hundred million.

keano_afc · 13-10-2011 3:41pm

Matthew 24:24 says:

For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.

Beware the lies of Lourdes.

cybercellesta · 13-10-2011 4:35pm

"The Catholic Faith alone produces miracles, which are never seen among heretics. Plants of this sort cannot grow in a soil cursed by God; they can take root only in that Church where the True Faith is professed . . . God cannot sanction the performance of a miracle except in favor of the true religion; were He to permit it in support of error, He would deceive us."

St. Alphonsus Marie de Liguori, Bishop & Doctor of the Church

georgieporgy · 13-10-2011 4:39pm

A 10 sec google search shows this recent cure of MS.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/mary/zlourdes.htm

cybercellesta · 13-10-2011 4:42pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

It's not a miracle if it happens a few thousand times out of a few hundred million.

Out of 7000 documented cures in the past 150 years, 67 was approved by the Church as miraculous!

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2010/04/miracle-cures-of-lourdes-miraculous.html

georgieporgy · 13-10-2011 4:43pm

Here's a longer list ( the 67 'approved')
http://www.lourdes-france.org/upload/pdf/gb_guerisons.pdf

duchalla · 13-10-2011 4:49pm

I've been to Lourdes twice and while the town itself isn't all that, the grotto is something special.

MagicMarker · 13-10-2011 4:50pm

67 out of millions. Wow.

How many of them grew new limbs?

georgieporgy · 13-10-2011 4:56pm

And one more from today's paper
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2011/03/30/man-with-paralysed-leg-walks-1000-miles-after-visit-to-lourdes/

Growing new limbs? not sure how many, but quite a few have grown new hearts.

mascaput · 14-10-2011 8:43pm

homer911 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there's a Protestant/Catholic thread for some of these comments..

Everyone knows that non-Catholics think Catholic "sites of pilgrimage" are a complete scam

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cybercellesta wrote: »

Out of 7000 documented cures in the past 150 years, 67 was approved by the Church as miraculous!

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2010/04/miracle-cures-of-lourdes-miraculous.html

Hmmm...only 67? That's not even 1%. What was so badly wrong with the other 6,933? Didn't God love them too?

Lourdes is basically a virgin cult worship centre, which were common in the Middle East and places like Ephesus (in modern day Turkey), back 2000 years ago, where the cult of Artemis/Diana held sway.

Later on, as part of its policy of syncretisation, the RCC adopted and transmuted many of these pagan, virginal cultic practices into its rituals and observances.
The idea that Mary (Miriam in Hebrew) would have been alabaster white with a crown on her head, is purely a carry-over from the temples and statues at Ephesus, which were all bright white.
The divinity of Mary/Miriam was decided upon at the First Council of Ephesus in 431 ad, nearly four centuries after she suposedly lived in Judaea.
The Council decided that Jesus was one person, not two separate people: complete God and complete man, with a rational soul and body. From that time on, Mary/Miriam was to be called theotokos, a Greek word that means "God-bearer" (the one who gave birth to God). Knock is another marian virgin worship shrine. Link
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Keylem · 14-10-2011 10:54pm

mascaput wrote: »

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Hmmm...only 67? That's not even 1%. What was so badly wrong with the other 6,933? Didn't God love them too?

Lourdes is basically a virgin cult worship centre, which were common in the Middle East and places like Ephesus (in modern day Turkey), back 2000 years ago, where the cult of Artemis/Diana held sway.

Later on, as part of its policy of syncretisation, the RCC adopted and transmuted many of these pagan, virginal cultic practices into its rituals and observances.
The idea that Mary (Miriam in Hebrew) would have been alabaster white with a crown on her head, is purely a carry-over from the temples and statues at Ephesus, which were all bright white.
The divinity of Mary/Miriam was decided upon at the First Council of Ephesus in 431 ad, nearly four centuries after she suposedly lived in Judaea.
The Council decided that Jesus was one person, not two separate people: complete God and complete man, with a rational soul and body. From that time on, Mary/Miriam was to be called theotokos, a Greek word that means "God-bearer" (the one who gave birth to God). Knock is another marian virgin worship shrine. Link
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Sigh!!!! Catholics DO NOT worship Mary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtErU6VMJzA

Exceptional Images from Lourdes.

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