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Running Aimlessly Down Under - From 54 to 53 sec 400m

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Round 8 took us to Albert Park's new Lakeside Stadium track, arguably the best of the 12 AV Shield rounds. Due to the Zatopek being on Saturday (one of the highlights of the Australian athletics calender) all grassroots competitions were moved to Thursday evening for this round of the Shield. So, a meet under floodlights, in a brand new stadium on a brand new blue track with the excellent warm up track facilities. It's hard not to be a bit excited about that, even if I have already raced there about 4-5 times now.

    The weather was perfect. It was low 20's. It felt like we were in a living room. A perfect night for athletics. The problem is that with the track being beside the lake it can get windy and usually a headwind. But for an 800m, if I wasn't going to run it this time then I'd never do it. It's probably the one chance I would get to run it without burning sun and suffocating heat.

    200m:

    They were running behind schedule which sort of messed up my warm up. I had warmed up too early, ended up sitting down, and then sort had to re-warm back up again, which was not ideal.

    For my heat I went in the "sub 27" heat, although the reality is never the case. I was in lane 7 and I knew nothing about the guys in 3-6. The guy on the outside from the newly formed Yarra Ranges AC I got chatting to. He said he ran 53 for 400m the week before but was considering just going easy in the 200m at around 25 or 26 to preserve himself for the 800 (he ended up running a 2:07).

    Gun went off and I didn't feel I powered out as well as I had in the previous race. I drived hard keeping my head down, and getting the knees up, but everybody on my inside was passing me as I could see with my side vision. I lifted my head to find myself well down, as the guy in lane 8 was storming clear of the field. Clearly he decided to abandon his previous plan of running easy. As I came around the bend I felt a strong gust of wind in my face, which came at the worst time, as you are trying to build up momentum. Entering the straight I was so far down on the field, but started reeling them in in over the second half of the race as I finished strongly. The gap was way too much to make up though, and as I hit the last 20m I felt a mini-lactic acid build up. Had never experienced that in a 200 before. I finished in last of the 6 runners, about 4m down on the next runner.

    Had no idea how fast I ran. I felt I worked damn hard and afterwards I felt exhausted, more so than usual after a 200m, but technically I felt I didn't execute the race as well as I could. It was rather messy at times, but maybe I think this because I ran in a race which turned out to be a small bit fast for me so I always felt like I was chasing.

    Result popped up as 26.50 seconds, which is 0.18 slower than my PB, and 0.01 faster than my previous next best time. Initially I was disappointed, but when I saw the wind reading I felt a lot happier. I had a -1.3 headwind. Adjusting my time using the adjustment calculator it comes to 26.36, while doing likewise for my PB it comes to 26.34, so my performance was right on my PB.

    Before I found out the wind reading I was telling the coach I was a little disappointed and that I didn't execute it that great. He said that it is not easy to run well in the evening time if you've been working all day. I said to him that I had PB'ed at the State Champs 400m last year after a long day of work. He said that that's different, and it is a big occasion. He's probably right. I had a stressful day at work, and felt a little drained, but I don't want to be making excuses. The State Champs could be an evening race so I will need to be on my A-game on that occasion and will need to manage this challenge.

    800m:

    Initially after the 200m I lost all enthusiasm for the event. I was feeling exhausted, but slowly my energy came back and took my place in what turned out to be the 3rd slowest heat. There were 12 in the race and I got chatting to the lad who shared lane 7 with me. He said he had never ran an 800 in his life but is a 54 second 400m runner.

    Gun went off and I settled into a comfortable pace, and entered the backstraight in 3rd place, with my lane mate moving ahead, with a 14-15 year old trying to stick with him. Another lad then went past me and a gap opened up between the first 2, and the 2 of us. First 200m was around 35 and after that I didn't bother looking at the watch.Coming into the home straight I noticed that there was a gap back to 5th place behind me, but 3rd place had forged a bit ahead of me. As I hit the bell the guy announced out "73...74". I had gone out very conservatively, and was now ready to kick on, and use my sprint speed to move up closer to the leaders. I upped the pace on the backstraight and with 250m to go went past the guy in 3rd place like he was standing still and ended up taking 5 seconds out of him. I now had my sights on trying to catch the leaders, but the guy who was in my lane was now pushing well clear and won in 2:17. The younger chap was now suffering badly for trying to stick with him. I entered the home straight and he was about 20m ahead of me. I unleashed a kick, and was finishing like a train. This was the fastest I had ever finished an 800m. My left calf started to feel a bit tight with the change in pace. I reeling him in very quickly, but I ran out of track and finished half a second down on him, to come 3rd in 2:28.4. This was a season's best by 0.8 seconds and was just 0.8 seconds off my PB from last season. However given the fact I was wearing racing flats, as opposed to sprint spikes last year, I think the reality is that it was a PB run, even if the figures don't say so officially.

    I was happy with my run, and in a twisted way really enjoyed it. It's fun being competitive in races like that. It wasn't a strong standard lets be honest, but it was well ahead of the quality of opposition I was up against 2 weeks ago. There's a good chance that will be it for me this season as far as 800m is concerned. Don't really want to be messing around with 800s after Christmas as we approach the business end of the season. Including the graded meets in August this is the 4th one I have done now, and have only skipped one (although went a bit easy in another one).

    Shot Putt:

    I decided to have another shot at this for a bit of fun. First throw was 5.97m, my 3rd best ever, 5cm down on 2 weeks ago, and 54cm down on my best. The second throw was only 5.62 and the final one 5.61 I think. However my scream could be heard from the other end of the stadium so was pleased with that, worthy of a half a metre bonus surely. :)

    Just one more track meet left before the Christmas break. Round 9 takes us back to Box Hill next week where I will again run a 100 and 400, and maybe a 4x1. Looking forward to the Christmas break and just focusing on training and having 3 weeks off racing. Bit tired from all the racing, and need to get myself rejuvenated for the big second half of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    With the first half of the season coming to a close next weekend and the Christmas period upon us the coaches are using this period as a sort of "mini-winter" and re-introducing some more hill work, to build up more strength.

    This morning's session was 8x150m with walk back break (ranged from 2 and a half minutes, to almost 5 by the end, with a 6 minute break at half way). The difference between now and my last session in September is enormous. Delighted but I guess it's not a huge surprise given my PB runs over the last month and a half.

    Last session in September, the last hill session of the winter:
    Pisco Sour wrote: »

    8x150m with 3 minute walk back breaks. Times were:

    29-30-30-31(very low)-30-31(very low)-29(very high)-29

    Today my times were:

    26-26-27-29-30-29-28-27

    That's on average a 2 second improvement per rep which is huge. I also destroyed one of the guys who was always ahead of me in the winter. He edged ahead of me in 2 of the first 3 reps and then after that he was way behind. Interestingly he ran a 24.96 the other night for 200m, a full 1 and a half seconds ahead of me, but his season's best 400m is only 0.6 seconds ahead of me. No doubt I ran very well, which was noticed by the coaches, but I reckon the other lad was a bit under par also.

    Painful session, but felt great when it was over. More of those sessions over Christmas and I'll be nicely set for the second half of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Goodmornings: 2 sets of 15 @ 80.5lbs (up from 75lbs)
    Box Squats: 4 sets of 10 @ 80.5lbs (up from 75lbs)
    Deadlifts: 3 sets of 6 @ 50kg (up from 40kg)
    Leg Press: 3 sets of 8 @ 301.5lbs (up from 286lbs)
    Bench Press: 4 sets of 8 @ 130lbs, 130lbs, 135.5lbs and 145.5lbs
    Body twists: 2 sets of 20 @ 15kg
    Crunches: 1 set of 30
    Side Sit-ups: 1 set of 20 on each side
    Heel Raises: 1 set of 20

    Saturday looks like a shocker if early forecasts are to be believed. Could be 20mm of rain. Think I will enter the 400m at High Velocity Club meet in Geelong this Sunday and have it as a back up if Saturday's meet was to get cancelled, or if conditions were so bad that they would affect any sort of chance at a good time. Would rather run on Saturday of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Upper outside part of my left calf was at me a bit today. Felt a bit stiff and heavy. It surfaced about 24 hours after my hill session and I probably aggravated it in the gym then. Probably just DOMS, but I was feeling a bit cautious this evening at the start of my warm up and was considering just doing run throughs. But after a few strides it loosened up so I was good to go and do the session the coach gave to me specifically.

    Low volume, high intensity was the order of the day on this occasion. 300m flat out, starting at the 400m start point so running 2 bends. Then a 10 minute break, which he told me to do a few strides in to prevent my calf from acting up like it always does after long breaks. And then 200m flat out. Sounds easy.

    Coach timed me at 41.6 for the 300m. Granted it is a rough hand time, but am extremely happy with that especially given the fact I was using flats, and not spikes, and on my own also. The best I have ever did for 300m was a 42.9 hand time in a race at the end of last season. The best 300m rep I had ever done in training was a 44.1. Though to be fair, I haven't done a 300m rep in training in quite awhile now so a big improvement was to be expected. The IAAF points table puts that run equal to a 58.4 for 400m, so definitely my best ever training rep.

    Was absolutely knackered after and after an 11 minute break incorporating about 5 run throughs I was feeling tired for the 200m. Managed a 29, into a headwind. The slow time was to be expected after basically racing a 300m 10 minutes earlier.

    Pleased with this evening's work.

    I've entered Sunday's High Velocity Club meet for 400m. Am keeping my options open, and will keep a keen eye on the weather coming closer to the weekend to see whether I will race Saturday or Sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Weekly massage this evening. He really gave the left calf a good battering but I'm sure it will be thankful come the weekend.

    Gym session was the exact same as the last day except the following:

    Bench Press: got up to 90% of my max today, managing 5 reps at 152lbs. Couldn't quite get the full 8.

    Leg Press: 306lbs, up from 301lbs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Coach had me doing a light session this evening to have me ready for the weekend. Just 2 sets of 40-60-80 with 5 min break between each set and just a walk back break between each 40, 60 and 80.

    Still don't know what day I'll be racing. The weather looks woeful on Saturday, with thunderstorms. The weather for Geelong looks fine for Sunday. I want to run on Sunday. My club wants me to run on Saturday (running on Sunday won't help the club in the AV Shield at all). Bit of a dilemma. It's an individual sport so I should just do what's best for me, but there is that nagging guilt, which is madness to be honest as I am in the top 5 in the club for most events taken part in this season to date, and have been at 8 out of 8 AV Shield events while our better guys have struggled to make it to 2.

    I guess I'll play it by ear but I'm not too interested in running a 59 on a soaking track of puddles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Well with the weather forecast for yesterday looking horrible with thunderstorms and heavy rain I opted for Sunday instead at the High Velocity Club meet in Geelong. Well the weather forecasters are completely incompetent as the weather was sensational with beautiful sunny conditions and temperatures in the high 20s! :rolleyes: Was too late to change my mind really, but I don't really mind as my friends were having a big Christmas bash yesterday before a lot of them head away for Christmas. Just stayed away from the booze and now I am ready to go for today.

    Excited. Nervous. This will be a completely new experience, and the standard will be far higher than what I run against in the AV Shield, but I'm looking forward to it. This will be the first 400m all season that I will go into completely fresh, without a 100m and relay in my legs. Hopefully the weather holds up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    56.28 seconds for 400m today at the High Velocity meet in Geelong, a PB by almost 2 seconds! In absolute disbelief! Knew I was in shape to run a low 57, and maybe even sneak under 57, but never expected this! Now just 0.29 seconds off the target I set back last April and there's still a whole half season to go. :)

    I'll write up a report on today soon, once I've calmed down a bit!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 PaullBradyy


    You are one fast mo-fo.

    I think this deserves a late entry to performance of the year.

    Good work, and keep going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour



    I think this deserves a late entry to performance of the year.

    Haha thanks. I don't think I'd be allowed in there though. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel



    I think this deserves a late entry to performance of the year.

    Good work, and keep going.

    If you keep going for another 41.8km you might have a shot at POTY;)

    Well done, that's fantastic progress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    The original plan for this weekend was to compete in Round 9 of the AV Shield at Box Hill on Saturday and do my usual 100 and 400 combo, with a possible relay thrown in. However the weather forecast looked dreadful for Saturday with thunderstorms and heavy rain being the order of the day. With this in mind, and the more promising looking forecast for Geelong on Sunday, I decided to give the Shield a miss (the first round I have missed so far this season) and run my very first High Velocity Club meet instead.

    As it turned out the weather ended up being lovely on Saturday (weathermen must be the only people who don't get fired for being wrong over 50% of the time!!), but it was too late to change my mind so I stuck with my plan for Geelong. To be honest I was pretty happy to run on Sunday. I hadn't run a single 400m fresh all season so far. Every 400m was run at the very end of the day, having run a 100m, and in some cases a relay also, beforehand. It's a killer waiting all day for a 400m. I thought that by doing High Velocity it would shake things up a bit and bring a bit of variety to my season. New meet. New track. New competitors.

    High Velocity Club are one of 4 specialist groups affiliated with Athletics Victoria who run 6 specialised meets throughout the season for sprints, hurdles, long jump and triple jump. The other 3 specialist groups are:

    - Vic Milers Club - 800m-3000m
    - Rare Air Club - High Jump and Pole Vault
    - AV Throwers - all the throws

    The High Velocity club meets are more of an elite type setup. Only the top 24 applicants in any of the track events are provided a lane, and it is based on times. Of course the reality is than only one of the 6 meets (the one just before the state champs) will fill up, so I had no bother getting a lane with my 58.01 PB.

    The meet took place at a new track for me, the John Landy Athletic Field, named after the great John Landy, the second man in history to run sub 4 for the mile, holder of the world mile record for 3 years with a 3:58.0 and Olympic Bronze medalist in 1956 behind Ronnie Delany. The track is the venue for the Victorian Country Championships on Australia Day weekend so this meet would give me a chance to get a good run out on the track before what will be one of the biggest events of the season for me, and familiarise myself with the area. The track was beautiful. It was like walking on carpet. It was only relayed a couple of years ago.

    400m:

    Since running my breakthrough 400 of 58.01 at the end of October I had become very consistent with 58.17 and 58.18 in my last 2 races. Despite the consistency I felt that I wasn't doing myself justice and that I was in much better shape than that from the times I was running in training. However after a 41.6 in flats for 300m on Tuesday I was feeling confident that I could run 57 for the first time.

    I was incredibly nervous ahead of this race. In one way it was great to be down in Geelong on my own where I knew nobody (except one of my decathlon buddies who was running the hurdles and long jump), but this also meant I didn't have anything to distract me from my race before I started my warm up.

    The weather was partly cloudy/ partly sunny. One of those jumpers off, jumpers back on every 5 minutes type of days. The wind was very strong though, and was sort of appearing in random gusts. My thinking was that this wouldn't be a huge issue for 400m as long as it stayed in the one direction and didn't swirl half way during my race.

    Despite my nerves I wasn't particularly intimidated by the opposition. The first time I ever ran in a race like this was at the Essendon Track Classic back in February where I ran 59.86 and felt like a lost little puppy among all those finely tuned sprinters. However after that I raced the State Championships against the same type of opposition and I smashed my PB in it, so I figured I'm now experienced in running races out of my depth, and in fact it can be a good thing as it means you have to 100% focus on yourself only. And besides I was in much better shape now so there really was no need to be intimidated. I knew I'd probably come last but that didn't bother me.

    There were 6 in the race. I was drawn in lane 6, with lanes 5 and 8 vacant. The gun went off and I got out well. Felt a huge gust of wind in my face for the opening 50m or so of the race. Kept the head down for the first 40m, and when I lifted it I noticed the guy in lane 4 come right up on me. No panic there though. The guy is a 49 second runner. I eased into cruise mode after about 60m and tried to maintain this down the backstraight. However I think I got caught up a bit in the pace of the race and certainly moved quicker from 100m to 200m than I would have expected. The guy in lane 7 had moved a bit away from me but I could still see him clearly which was a positive. With 200m to go I kicked on. I felt like I was moving hard by this stage and it could be difficult to maintain this in the closing stages. With about 140m to go I noticed the lad in lane 1 finally come up on me. I had somebody close to me who I could chase. At this point I again noticed the wind in my face briefly. I entered the home straight and I was hurting bad. I could see a fair few of them in front of me. Well ahead, but not so far ahead that I couldn't see them like last season. The lactic acid was no killing me. I pushed as hard as I could through it. I was losing a bit of ground on the guys ahead of me, paying for going out a bit too quick, but I worked incredibly hard to push through it, trying to maintain my form as best I could (which wasn't particularly well). I crossed the finish line about 10m behind the guy in lane 1 and I had no idea how fast I had run.

    I felt exhausted afterwards as you would expect, but my head felt like it wanted to explode. A sudden headache of sorts. This was a new sensation. I waited beside the results screen only half conscious hoping a 57 would appear for my result. They didn't list names, only places and times. The 6th place runner was given 56.28 and I was thinking this could be a good omen for me and I could sneak through with a high 57. However my result was not popping up. Then after a few seconds the penny dropped. Hang on...1...2...3...4...5...6, there's 6 on that list!! There was only 6 in the race right?? F*CK, that's MY time there! I didn't cop it at all. I had just run 56.28 seconds, a PB by 1.73 seconds, completely bypassing the 57s and the high 56s and shooting me right on the verge of the 55 range, my goal for the season!

    I didn't believe it. There had to be some sort of mistake. But the officials insured me that I ran that time, and they were quite enjoying my reaction to my result. He then personally verified the result for me on the photo finish screen and printed me a copy of the results in case I still didn't believe him. :)

    After taking a step back to think about it all, it was no surprise I ran that time. I was way closer to the fast guys than I was last year. The guy in lane 1 was a high 54 second runner and that is exactly what he ran again today. Being 10m off him obviously equals a low 56. I don't know why I doubted myself so much in the immediate aftermath.

    The race was won in 49.09, with the rest of the field running 49.26, 50.39, 51.89, 52.86 and 54.98.

    This race has given me huge confidence going into the second half of the season, and in particular ahead of the Vic Country Championships which will take place on that very same track.

    So that's the last race of 2012. Lots more to come this season but it has been a great year. I entered the year with a 60.35 PB and have taken over 4 seconds off that time in the last 12 months. I'll come back later with a mini review of the season to date at a later stage and the plans for the second half of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 920 ✭✭✭RandyMann


    Pisco Sour wrote: »
    56.28 seconds for 400m today at the High Velocity meet in Geelong, a PB by almost 2 seconds! In absolute disbelief! Knew I was in shape to run a low 57, and maybe even sneak under 57, but never expected this! Now just 0.29 seconds off the target I set back last April and there's still a whole half season to go. :)

    I'll write up a report on today soon, once I've calmed down a bit!


    What can I say, thats just incredible but not unbelieveable. Super performance there Pisco, very well done and congrats!
    Here is what I am thinking about a 2 second PB, you have just proved me right with regard to the power aspect of your training in the gym, there is the gain above that I was telling you would happen ;)
    Keep up the good work and reading that has got me excited, I want to get back to the track now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,524 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    That's a time you can be proud of. Time to start getting more aggressive with your long term goals. Well done!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭drquirky


    Excellent running Pisco- nice PB! Now would you get off your ass and get back to trolling the forum?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    RandyMann wrote: »
    What can I say, thats just incredible but not unbelieveable. Super performance there Pisco, very well done and congrats!
    Here is what I am thinking about a 2 second PB, you have just proved me right with regard to the power aspect of your training in the gym, there is the gain above that I was telling you would happen ;)
    Keep up the good work and reading that has got me excited, I want to get back to the track now!

    Yep 100% correct. Fully agree.

    That along with all the work on my form of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Oregano_State


    I was only thinking this weekend that if you're doing 300m in 41.xx in flats then your 58 sec 400m PB was no reflection of the shape you're in at the moment. And there you have it.

    I think there's more to come yet, too.

    I just did me some sums: 41.0/3 = 13.66667
    13.666667*4 = 54.67

    That means that if you go through 300m in 41.0 sec in a race, and don't lose any speed in the final straight, you'll have yourself a mid-54 PB. Now, obviously you're going to slow down a bit, but 55-low is not an unreasonable expectation from that split. I think you're capable of going through a bit quicker in a race situation though, so as far as I'm concerned you're well on course for a 54s run sometime in the not too distant future.

    Good Job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Was absolutely jaded today in work. That 400m race yesterday sapped every last ounce of energy from me. This along with the fact that our training group and coaches were having our Christmas dinner at 6pm this evening meant I did just a very quick gym session. The main reason I made sure to do it was more to not get into the habit of skipping sessions. I did a quick 20 minute session with the following:

    Bench Press: 4 sets of 8 at 130lbs, 130lbs, 135.5lbs and 145.5lbs

    Leg Press: 3 sets of 8 at 316lbs, up from 306lbs

    Body twists: 1 set of 20

    Crunches: 1 set of 30

    Side sit-ups: 1 set of 20 on each side

    One of my training partners ran 56.51 at the weekend which is a season's best for him. He has been ahead of me in about 95% of all our training sessions since May, so to run a slightly better time than him this weekend is quite satisfying. It is also interesting that his season's best for 200m is 1.3 seconds faster than mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Tough session this evening. 400-300-200 with 10 minute breaks between each. Lacking a bit of energy today so wasn't too happy when I heard that I had to do a flat out 400:

    All reps were done in flats. I managed the 400 in 59.1, the 300 in 44.8 and then after 50m of the 200m my calf spasmed so I called it a day!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    At the half way point of the season and after 10 meets in 11 weeks it’s time for a brief review of the season so far and a look ahead to what’s in store for the second half of the season:

    100m:

    Pre-season PB: 12.96 (+4.3)

    1) 13.2h
    2) 13.35 (-1.4)
    3) 13.43 (-1.3)
    4) 13.19 (+1.0)
    5) 12.92 (+0.6) PB

    200m:

    Pre-season PB: 26.92 (+2.2)

    1) 27.30 (+0.7)
    2) 26.51 (+0.0) PB
    3) 26.32 (+0.3) PB
    4) 26.50 (-1.3)

    400m:

    Pre-season PB: 58.68

    1) 60.3h
    2) 59.24
    3) 58.01 PB
    4) 58.17
    5) 58.18
    6) 56.28 PB

    800m:

    Pre-season PB: 2:27.6h

    1) 2:29.2h
    2) 2:40.3h (extreme heat)
    3) 2:28.4h

    The schedule for the remainder of the season at the moment looks like this:

    1) Sun 06 Jan – High Velocity Club meet 3 – Knox – 400m
    2) Sat 12 Jan – AV Shield Round 10 – Doncaster – 200m
    3) Sun 20 Jan – High Velocity Club meet 4 – Sandringham – 400m (AV Shield Round 11 is the day before but will be at the Australian Open tennis that day)
    4) Fri-Sun 26-28 Jan – VICTORIAN COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIPS – Geelong – 400m
    5) Sat 02 Feb – AV Shield Round 12 – Albert Park – 200m
    6) Sat-Sun 09-10 Feb – VICTORIAN OPEN COMBINED EVENTS CHAMPIONSHIPS (Decathlon) – Albert Park – 100m & 400m (and all the other stuff!!)
    7) Sat 16 Feb – AV Shield Final – Albert Park – 100m & 400m (If my club qualifies, touch and go whether we will or not)
    8) Thu 21 Feb – High Velocity Club meet 5 – Albert Park – 400m (If my entry time is good enough to qualify, which is unlikely as this meet fills up as it is just before Vic Champs)
    9) Fri-Sun 01-03 Mar – VICTORIAN OPEN TRACK AND FIELD CHAMPIONSHIPS – Albert Park – 400m & 200m (assuming the 200m comes after the 400m, if not then just the 400m)

    More meets may pop up here and there but for the most part that will be the schedule right up to Vic Champs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Weekly massage followed by gym session. Exact same as my session last Wednesday, except the following

    1) Deadlifts - 3 sets of 6 @ 60kg, up from 50kg
    2) Leg Press - 3 sets of 8 @ 326lbs, up from 316lbs on Monday, and 306lbs last Wednesday

    Track session tomorrow then on Friday I am heading off to Mildura with my cousins for a few days for a bit of tourism. I will do a light hill session wherever I can find a hill early Sat morning (before the 3 day heat wave is due to kick in)and then will take a full 3 days off, and get back into it with a gym session early morning on St Stephen's Day before I head to the MCG for the big Boxing Day test cricket. This time of year will be a bit disruptive to the routine but just have to make sure to train hard as well as play hard.

    Forecast for Mildura on sat is 38 and sunday is 43 :eek: so don't think I could do any extra sessions in that even if I wanted to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    6x160m this evening with 5 minute breaks. Didn't time them but was around 13m or so behind one of the guys who ran 50.5 at the weekend. First one felt sloppy, the next ok, and the 3rd felt much stronger, then with 20m to go I got a spasm in the left calf and jogged the last bit of the rep. After 60m of the 4th rep the same thing happened again and I called it a night. Very frustrating. Must be muscle fatigue after what has been a very tough week with the race last Sunday, and flat out 400 and 300 just 2 days later. I had my massage yesterday though so wouldn't have expected this to happen tonight, and certainly not as early as the end of the 3rd rep.

    Pretty disappointed with the session as a result. Wanted to get a good hard session in before the mini break, but it was not to be.

    Off to Mildura tomorrow and am hoping to find a hill/ incline there to do 6x150m on Sat morning. My coach says I wont find one though as the city is as flat as a pancake. I'll do my best to find one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Am up in Mildura for a few days before Christmas, so had to make do with running on my own this morning. Heat is predicted to get to a ludicrous 38 today, and 42 tomorrow so I got out early, at around 10pm and did a quick hill session. The receptionist at our hotel found me a hill right by the Murray River (which forms the border of Victoria and New South Wales). It wasn't ideal but given Mildura is as flat as a pancake (might be a good spot to do a Marathon if at the right time of the year?) I was glad to find anything which resembled a hill. It was 90m long (although only the last 70m was actually an incline), and it wasn't super steep but it was enough of a hill to make it worthwhile.

    I did 6x90m with about 90 second walk back recoveries. I did them all in 15 seconds. The time means nothing of course as every hill is different. I wanted to do 10 reps but I ran out of water, and with the sweat literally dripping off me I made the sensible decision to call it a day.

    I definitely didn't get as much out of that session than I would if I was in Melbourne with the training group this morning but life can't always stop for running. I'm taking 3 full days off to fully enjoy my time up here and then Christmas Day, and will get back into it with a gym session on the morning of St. Stephens Day.

    Mildura is 650km north west of Melbourne, a 6 hour drive if going non-stop. Yet when you look at the map of Australia you have barely made a dent in it. It really is very hard to comprehend the vastness of this land until you travel it at ground level.

    The town itself is a bit of a dirt hole. Would hate to live here. It's pretty soulless and rough, but it is an excellent base for exploring the outback. Today we are going to Mungo National Park which looks stunning!

    Happy Christmas to all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    I know a lot think you're always trolling, but I think you actually care about this forum and are stirring things to stop the 5 hour marathons taking over. In any case, very impressive progress from you in your 400's on 2012, best of luck for the new year. And don't go learning manners or anything, a bit of passion one way or the other is a good thing to see around here. Merry feckin' Xmas to you too pisco sour:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    I know a lot think you're always trolling, but I think you actually care about this forum and are stirring things to stop the 5 hour marathons taking over. In any case, very impressive progress from you in your 400's on 2012, best of luck for the new year. And don't go learning manners or anything, a bit of passion one way or the other is a good thing to see around here. Merry feckin' Xmas to you too pisco sour:)

    Same to you by the way. Your input to this forum is excellent and we can't lose you to the Tri forum so try stick around here a bit more. Otherwise I'm fighting a losing battle. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Had a read back over my first few posts on this log and came across this gem from below, my first ever 400m race, 21 months ago. Pure amateur preparations it has to be said. Looking back at it what was I thinking! :)
    Pisco Sour wrote: »
    Ok so today was a great day in my running career (I use that word in the loosest sense of the word of course!!).

    A quick summary of the races I had done up to today. After Christmas there was 4 AV Shield meets left in the summer track season. At the first of those I ran a PB for 200m with a time of 28.2 seconds, jumped 4.17m for long jump and ran 2.44 for 800m. The next weekend at the 2nd of the meets I was badly injured and ran an appalling time over 100m of 15.5 seconds and had to sacrifice the 400m then. I was gutted. I sat out the 3rd meet to be ready for the 4th but unforeseen circumstances (flood damage) got in the way of me being motivated to attend that meet.

    After the AV Shield was finished there was 3 extra meets put on for some extra competition between some of the clubs. No points at stake, just a more laid back event. I missed the first of these as I had already planned a trip through the great ocean road that weekend so today was to be my first track meet in what felt like an age.

    As per my previous post I picked up an injury on tuesday night. I spent the rest of the week recovering and on friday lunchtime I tested it out by doing a few strides. I passed the test and felt fine so I decided I'd give this meet a go.

    However some friends who I had not seen in 2 years were in town so I decided to go out for a few alcoholic beverages. Double whiskey, a few beers, and an irish car bomb. Not good preparation but I made sure to drink plenty of water during the evening and get plenty of sleep to minimise the damage.

    Woke up this morning, a little hungover but not too bad at all. Downed about 2-3 litres of water over the course of a few hours and I was completely fine. A bigger worry was the fact that my legs were stiff and shins were hurting a bit. I may have pushed myself yesterday a bit more than I should have.

    Today there was 200m and 400m races on. I faced a dilemma: whether to do them both or to focus solely on the 400m. I had already registered a good PB this summer in the 200m and as the 400m was after the 200m I felt that if I wanted to focus on the 4 I had to sacrifice the 2.

    Getting to the start line I did not know what to expect. My previous best was 66.2 seconds so I raced in the 65-70 second heat. As it turned out I was running against 5 women, but they were all quick and would provide a very good challenge.

    As it turns out the race went perfectly. I paced myself well. Went off hard, settled after 50 metres. I was in lane 3 and my clubmate in lane 2 ate up the stagger really quickly. I knew from training that I was much faster than her so being innexperienced at racing the distance I wasnt sure whether she had gone off too fast or I had started too slow. Anyway I just shut it out and ran my own race and by the 200m mark I had passed her again as she died a slow death. Coming into the homestraight there was 2 ahead of me, but I felt great and with 60-70 metres to go I knew the race was mine, and went passed them with about 30-40 metres left and won comfortable by about 0.8 of a second. I was thrilled with the victory. Yes they were women but they were of my level so winning felt good. Then I was told the time. I couldnt believe it. 63.9 seconds, an enormous PB. I was in shock!! Did not think I was in the shape to run that quickly. The slowest of the 6 of us ran 68 seconds so it was a good competitive race.

    One of my coaches said I ran the race perfectly, paced myself just right. The other coach said that he thinks I should have an extra beer or two next weekend before the final track meet as it appears to have done me good :D

    To be honest today was probably the best I have ever ran a race, of any distance. It went perfectly and on the day I couldt have done any better. A great feeling! :D

    So next weekend is the final track meet of the season. The events that concern me next weekend are the 100m and the 800m. Provided the 100m is first then i'll do both events but if the 800m is first then I will skip it as the 100m is priority. After my disaster a month or so back when I was injured I have unfinished business over the event. If I get a slight breeze behind me and am fit I know I am capable of going sub 13 seconds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 920 ✭✭✭RandyMann


    Happy Xmas Pisco


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    I got back from Mildura earlier than expected so decided to sneak in a quick hill session on a hill near me. The last time I ran on that hill was back in August a few days after arriving back here from Ireland. On that occasion I did 6x150m and my times were as follows:
    Pisco Sour wrote: »
    30-30-30-31-31-31

    Today I did 4x150m with 3 minute recoveries and my times were:

    27.3 - 27.1 - 27.6 - 27.8

    That's a huge chunk taken off. It's nice when you see progress staring right at you like that. :)

    I had felt a bit guility about taking 3 days off, so now I can enjoy my pints tonight and my day of eating like a pig and drinking like a fish tomorrow guilt free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Strange session this morning. Some high points and also disappointments:

    Leg Press - 3 sets of 8 @ 336lbs, up from 326lbs. I'm progressing nicely in this.

    Bench Press - 4 sets of 8 @ 80%, 85%, 90% and 95%. I managed 6 reps of the 90% (152lbs) which is an improvement on my previous best of 5, but then disappointingly couldn't manage even one rep at 95% (162lbs). Next time hopefully.

    Box Squats - 4 sets of 10 @ 40kg (88lbs) up from 80.5lbs. I finally moved to using the Olympic bar, and even though the weight was heavier than last week it felt easier. The balance is so much better with that bar.

    Goodmornings - 2 sets of 15 @ 40kg (88lbs) up from 80.5lbs

    Deadlifts - I have felt that I have been using my arms too much with this exercise so I got the gym coach to take a look at my technique and he said I am doing a double movement of legs-arms, when it should be all legs. I eventually got it right for a couple of reps but then as I got tired my technique went to pot again and he told me to call it a day. I was on 60kg. A fair bit of work needed with the deadlift.

    Did my usual body exercises also.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 920 ✭✭✭RandyMann


    Pisco Sour wrote: »
    Strange session this morning. Some high points and also disappointments:

    Leg Press - 3 sets of 8 @ 336lbs, up from 326lbs. I'm progressing nicely in this.

    Bench Press - 4 sets of 8 @ 80%, 85%, 90% and 95%. I managed 6 reps of the 90% (152lbs) which is an improvement on my previous best of 5, but then disappointingly couldn't manage even one rep at 95% (162lbs). Next time hopefully.

    Box Squats - 4 sets of 10 @ 40kg (88lbs) up from 80.5lbs. I finally moved to using the Olympic bar, and even though the weight was heavier than last week it felt easier. The balance is so much better with that bar.

    Goodmornings - 2 sets of 15 @ 40kg (88lbs) up from 80.5lbs

    Deadlifts - I have felt that I have been using my arms too much with this exercise so I got the gym coach to take a look at my technique and he said I am doing a double movement of legs-arms, when it should be all legs. I eventually got it right for a couple of reps but then as I got tired my technique went to pot again and he told me to call it a day. I was on 60kg. A fair bit of work needed with the deadlift.

    Did my usual body exercises also.

    Thats good work with the bench press Pisco. My bench press goes down very quickly if I have not done it in a while. This is the exercise for me that I notice it the most with disimprovements.
    Also well done on your deadlifts. My coach tells me to not think of it as lifting the bar off the ground but to imagine/focus on using the bar like it was an imovable object and you push the ground away from you with your feet ie. imagine it is the ground you are pushing rather then the bar you are lifting. This way you will engage your legs more.
    Also which is very important is to use pronated grip at all times. If you tend to do the mistake of using your arm/arms to help the lift and you have the opposite grip(1 hand supinated and the other pronated), you can easily tear your bicep with the supinated grip.


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