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Season 11! Game ON!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    I'm really not looking forward to my new wages bill one bit... I can see some players wages jumping by 3K+ each, so i'll be looking at atleast another 30k on top of what i already pay. I need to start fire-sale soon enough too, but really have no idea who to cut!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    TheVoodoo wrote: »
    I'm really not looking forward to my new wages bill one bit... I can see some players wages jumping by 3K+ each, so i'll be looking at atleast another 30k on top of what i already pay. I need to start fire-sale soon enough too, but really have no idea who to cut!

    Will wages go up much? have they not brought in already the average wage thing for promoted players from YA?

    I'm fearing the wage bill on the couple I have been training heavily ie U20 player etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭MarVeL


    daheff wrote: »
    that was the win of the season!!! :D

    condemned me to being relegated though :(

    Don't worry I'll probably be joining you anyway :) The 3rd division will be nice and cosy after this season!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭daheff


    MarVeL wrote: »
    Don't worry I'll probably be joining you anyway :) The 3rd division will be nice and cosy after this season!

    ah i think you've got a shot of staying up now (well out of auto-relegation zone anyways)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭MarVeL


    A chance yes but it'll be tough.

    Got the 5th place on Saturday, Polk High the following week and then yourself to finish out the season. Then even if I make it through that I still have to stop someone looking to promote up in order to stay in place and be beaten up again next year:(

    But, as you say, there is still a chance :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭johnnysmack


    MarVeL wrote: »
    A chance yes but it'll be tough.

    Got the 5th place on Saturday, Polk High the following week and then yourself to finish out the season. Then even if I make it through that I still have to stop someone looking to promote up in order to stay in place and be beaten up again next year:(

    But, as you say, there is still a chance :)

    Marvel, Da heff, its make or break time for us over next 3 games so best of luck to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭daheff


    Marvel, Da heff, its make or break time for us over next 3 games so best of luck to all.

    I think its more than luck I need...i had luck to beat you last time out...dont think there'll be a repeat...at least I beat Yermen in the boards league :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭MarVeL


    yep good luck lads. Not too much mind:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    interesting one - anyone had this before?

    have guy training to be FB/winger, always got high ratings there and the tick saying right position etc. today he got an x in FB?:confused:

    is his international career over already?! :eek: haha!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭johnnysmack


    eoferrall wrote: »
    interesting one - anyone had this before?

    have guy training to be FB/winger, always got high ratings there and the tick saying right position etc. today he got an x in FB?:confused:

    is his international career over already?! :eek: haha!

    Happens sometimes if he doesnt play well or in bad form. Wouldnt worry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭daheff


    eoferrall wrote: »
    interesting one - anyone had this before?

    have guy training to be FB/winger, always got high ratings there and the tick saying right position etc. today he got an x in FB?:confused:

    is his international career over already?! :eek: haha!

    release him...hes not cut out for it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    Happens sometimes if he doesnt play well or in bad form. Wouldnt worry about it.

    He's in decent form (I think), wasnt too worried about it as he has all the stats right etc so was going to keep playing him there and see if it continually happened.

    Thanks for confirming its not soemthing weird like him demanding to play in a different position!
    daheff wrote: »
    release him...hes not cut out for it :D

    yeah that's not going to happen..rapidly approaching my highest CSR player! :D wana buy him!?;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭daheff


    eoferrall wrote: »


    yeah that's not going to happen..rapidly approaching my highest CSR player! :D wana buy him!?;)


    nah...dont want your duds!! :p

    one bad game and hes cut...tough manager


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    daheff wrote: »
    nah...dont want your duds!! :p

    one bad game and hes cut...tough manager

    Its the only way for improvement - slacking not accepted.

    bring him down to earth from U20 selection etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJims


    Hey guys, Didnt want to start a new topic for this question, But what happens when season 11 ends? Theres only 3 more league games left, but then what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭mar-z


    TheJims wrote: »
    Hey guys, Didnt want to start a new topic for this question, But what happens when season 11 ends? Theres only 3 more league games left, but then what?

    If your in the top four then you are in the play-offs. Semi final followed by final/3rd place play-off. Both are in week 15 (semis on Wednesday, Final Saturday).

    If you win the league final you either auto-promote or have a promotion qualifier on the Wednesday of week 16. This depends on your position in the promotion tables (look at your league page). Teams above the line auto-promote, teams below play the qualifier.

    If you are 5th or 6th you play in the promotion qualifiers against a team trying to promote (Wed W.16). If you win you stay in the same league, if you lose the team you play takes your place and your relegated.

    Finally, if your 7th or 8th you are relegated and there are no more matches after the regular season ends in week 14.

    Edit: there are also friendly competitions such as the community challenge in week16. You can sign up for the CC on the link below, takes place in the friendly slot Monday week 16 and pits Irish teams (and the Dutch) against South African teams.

    http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/global.clubrooms.php#conversation=32766&z=4797


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJims


    I think both I and my Team are both a bit green for such things for now!

    Maybe in 2 seasons when i can atleast comfortably beat Bot teams ill give them a go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    TheJims wrote: »
    I think both I and my Team are both a bit green for such things for now!

    Maybe in 2 seasons when i can atleast comfortably beat Bot teams ill give them a go!

    By playing them you will get better. the monday friendlies will provide your team if more IGT than playing nothing and also you will gain experience as to what works. don't worry about losses etc as they have very little impact on contentment etc from monday games.

    and sure if you are playing bots, then you could surprise one or two of the higher teams with a LTNT! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJims


    eoferrall wrote: »
    By playing them you will get better. the monday friendlies will provide your team if more IGT than playing nothing and also you will gain experience as to what works. don't worry about losses etc as they have very little impact on contentment etc from monday games.

    and sure if you are playing bots, then you could surprise one or two of the higher teams with a LTNT! ;)

    Quality advice as always lads. might throw my hat at it... theres no harm i guess..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    scrummage WNWIM?

    (at least I think scrummage manages the couch potatoes!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭johnnysmack


    Hey Yerman, make or break game tomorrow, winner almost guarunteed to avoid automatic relegation. Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    This down time is a bit mad these days, it's quite the regular occurrence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gelio


    Its back now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭mar-z


    Last minute drop goal means I've avoided automatic relegation once again :)

    Bring on the qualifiers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭satory


    Got a win today, so going into the last game with a 1 point advantage over the team I have to play next weekend for that final playoff place.


    Just spotted that next weekends opponent has rested his first team this week, so we should have 2 fully energized squads going at it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    It'll be very close alright, real winner takes all. I think you should be ok though. A win next week will give me 2nd place, or if the 3rd place team loses( against 1st)

    I lost today, but picked up a losing BP with a last minute try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Scrummage


    eoferrall wrote: »
    scrummage WNWIM?

    (at least I think scrummage manages the couch potatoes!)


    I forgot to set tactics but saw you won anyway. I will try to beat clontarf in the last game in league and will WNWIM in the play off against you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,303 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Just started constructing Level 4 training facilities. I feel so grown up! :D:D

    Considering I will be getting auto relegated at the end of the season, not sure how wise a move it was. How and ever. Spent long enough atagonising over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    crisco10 wrote: »
    Just started constructing Level 4 training facilities. I feel so grown up! :D:D

    Considering I will be getting auto relegated at the end of the season, not sure how wise a move it was. How and ever. Spent long enough atagonising over it.

    I did it and never looked back. Defo worth it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    Scrummage wrote: »
    I forgot to set tactics but saw you won anyway. I will try to beat clontarf in the last game in league and will WNWIM in the play off against you.

    Do you not want to promote? I presume you were WNIWM also last weekend? Despite no confirmation i went with it anyway as I decided I would save energy for playoffs be they home or away.

    Not sure about promoting myself but kinda want to give it a shot, see if I can stay up. fecked around in Div III too long I reckon.

    I beat Clontarf half way mark, but went WNWIM against him this time and got spanked! :D reckon he went LTNT this time as wanted the win. If I can remember the tactics I used against him earlier I reckon I can take him. else I will have to study him again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    TheVoodoo wrote: »
    I did it and never looked back. Defo worth it!

    yup big improvement over lvl3... i'm considering lvl5 but there is a thread on the global lounge about it not being that great an improvement. might have to pick JP's mind about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    Yea i found a thread on the Spanish offsite when i had my guy on the U-20s, and the only real benefit is the additional, or 30th training spot. The actual training benefits etc are minimal.

    I really will not be going near lvl 5 for a long time. Can't justify spending that much, when it wont affect my set up a whole lot. Granted yes, lvl could work well for a solid and developed Div I team, but i personally wouldn't touch it till i reach that level.

    Lvl 4 is a big jump up on lvl 3 though. I have 2 lvl 4 trainers for attack and two for defense. Really noticed the difference after making the switch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    eoferrall wrote: »
    yup big improvement over lvl3... i'm considering lvl5 but there is a thread on the global lounge about it not being that great an improvement. might have to pick JP's mind about it!
    I'll run a test on it over the next two weeks.

    Here's what I'm thinking:
    Take a young player who's receiving no individual sessions. Give him 1 L4 session in a particular skill, and note the csr increase from individual training.
    Next week, give the same attribute 1 session at L5, and note the csr increase again.

    Anybody see any show-stopping problems with this? I know that given the non-linear nature of csr, we can expect the increase to be slightly greater on the second week regardless, but I think that should be fairly negligible from one week to the next on a player not actively being trained?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gelio


    Just keep an eye on form, that affects CSR too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    Am getting back into BR after a period of not being far off a one clik manager (shame I know!). Am going to finish in second in my league (III.3) this weekend irrespective of the results. I may however influence who finishes in third. My question is do I WNWIM, save energy but take a hit in the supporters contentment or do I play with a higher intensity in the hope of getting the team with a lower CSR in my semi but end up with less energy myself.

    What would you do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gelio


    Am getting back into BR after a period of not being far off a one clik manager (shame I know!). Am going to finish in second in my league (III.3) this weekend irrespective of the results. I may however influence who finishes in third. My question is do I WNWIM, save energy but take a hit in the supporters contentment or do I play with a higher intensity in the hope of getting the team with a lower CSR in my semi but end up with less energy myself.

    What would you do?

    I'm playing wnwim for mine and I'm thinking about cancelling training for the week, but its up to you. What do you think your chances are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    ajeffares wrote: »
    I'm playing wnwim for mine and I'm thinking about cancelling training for the week, but its up to you. What do you think your chances are?

    There are two points between 3rd and 4th. I play 4th, 3rd are at home to 5th. 3rd should win but if they don't then I'll be replaying 4th in the semi. The team in 4th were relegated into Div III last year and have played a mixed bag this year. He seems to have WNWIM his last few games so his energy levels are very good coming into this game. His CSR far outranks me and I guess I really don't want to face him in the semi. Have no chance against him if he LTNT.

    Think you may have gotten me to answer my own question aj! Looks like I have to make sure I don't get him in the semi... and just take the hit on my energy levels come the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭satory


    I've got another month to wait myself before I open lvl 4 training facilities...

    Forgot for a while that lvl coaches dont train at a lvl 4 level until you have the facilities open, so I've been wasting cash each week on lvl trainers for attack, defense and kicking for a couple of weeks now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gelio


    There are two points between 3rd and 4th. I play 4th, 3rd are at home to 5th. 3rd should win but if they don't then I'll be replaying 4th in the semi. The team in 4th were relegated into Div III last year and have played a mixed bag this year. He seems to have WNWIM his last few games so his energy levels are very good coming into this game. His CSR far outranks me and I guess I really don't want to face him in the semi. Have no chance against him if he LTNT.

    Think you may have gotten me to answer my own question aj! Looks like I have to make sure I don't get him in the semi... and just take the hit on my energy levels come the final.

    Problem solved!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    I'll run a test on it over the next two weeks.

    Here's what I'm thinking:
    Take a young player who's receiving no individual sessions. Give him 1 L4 session in a particular skill, and note the csr increase from individual training.
    Next week, give the same attribute 1 session at L5, and note the csr increase again.

    Anybody see any show-stopping problems with this? I know that given the non-linear nature of csr, we can expect the increase to be slightly greater on the second week regardless, but I think that should be fairly negligible from one week to the next on a player not actively being trained?

    Sounds good, form shouldn't impact it I would think over such a short period of time. and the gain from one week to the next is not worth worrying about really for this purpose. my u20 gains discounting his fluctuation in form maybe about 40/50 csr extra p.w. it seems (VERY approximate) and thats up ~70k so down at the 20k/30k (i assume around this level as you are picking a guy not being trained) will certainly be negligible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    Won my game, got 2nd place. Will meet a decent enough team now, but will be optimistic!

    Congrats Satory on your win too!! Close game till the end! Might still see ya in one of the games!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭johnnysmack


    Nice end to season with 3 wins from 3. Roll on the relegation play-off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭satory


    TheVoodoo wrote: »
    Won my game, got 2nd place. Will meet a decent enough team now, but will be optimistic!

    Congrats Satory on your win too!! Close game till the end! Might still see ya in one of the games!

    Cheers...

    I was surprised that I actually got the win today...

    Now I've got to come up with a game plan for winning in the play offs :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    Either way, win or loose in the playoffs, todays result earned you at least 50K extra in prize money! Sort out a good plan, beat Menage and meet me in the final? Sounds like a plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭satory


    TheVoodoo wrote: »
    Either way, win or loose in the playoffs, todays result earned you at least 50K extra in prize money! Sort out a good plan, beat Menage and meet me in the final? Sounds like a plan.

    You planning on going up this season?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gelio


    Does anyone know what day the semi is? I did a very stupid thing today! I ment to play my second wnwim to rest for the semi, but in a rush to get the tactics in on time, I clicked TNT by accident :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheVoodoo


    satory wrote: »
    You planning on going up this season?

    If i had the opportunity, i think i'd take it.. Even just for the Exp of one season up there, i think if i did go up, i'd be straight back down!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    ajeffares wrote: »
    Does anyone know what day the semi is? I did a very stupid thing today! I ment to play my second wnwim to rest for the semi, but in a rush to get the tactics in on time, I clicked TNT by accident :mad:

    Just as well you did, you only barely won, 2 points in fact. You would have lost home field advantage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gelio


    Fewcifur wrote: »
    Just as well you did, you only barely won, 2 points in fact. You would have lost home field advantage.

    I know but is it worth it? Big energy hit


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJims


    ajeffares wrote: »
    I know but is it worth it? Big energy hit

    I thought teams in the playoffs get their energy restored for the matches no?

    Blast


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