Roy Hodgson gone; Kenny in.

flahavaj

TheProdigy wrote: »

I wouldn't think so tbh, Christian Purslow needs to go as does a clear out of some first team players. Still a bit of rot to be removed before things start to function properly the way the fans want it to.

Thoughts Purslow was out. And clearing out the squad is a job for Commolli and the new manager to take on.

OPENROAD

flahavaj wrote: »

Absolutely. But in an FA Cup tie, in a game between the biggest rivals in the country, the day after the worst manager in the club's history gets the boot, to be replaced by a club legend, form and pretty much all logic goes out the window.

Very harsh on Roy imo, will be very interested to see how Liverpool perform over the coming months

flahavaj

OPENROAD wrote: »

Very harsh on Roy imo, will be very interested to see how Liverpool perform over the coming months

Who was worse? Souness maybe?

stumpypeeps

flahavaj wrote: »

Absolutely. But in an FA Cup tie, in a game between the biggest rivals in the country, the day after the worst manager in the club's history gets the boot, to be replaced by a club legend, form and pretty much all logic goes out the window.

Well that is true. I'm sure the old adage, "this is like Liverpools cup final" will be trotted out. From Uniteds perspective beating their main rivals should supply them with enough motivation. It might actually be a decent game of football. Though I doubt Dalglish will have much impact on tactics given he's only returning tonight.

OPENROAD

flahavaj wrote: »

Who was worse? Souness maybe?

I just don't feel this Liverpool team are very good at all.

stumpypeeps

OPENROAD wrote: »

I just don't feel this Liverpool team are very good at all.

I don't think that Blackpool team are very good at all. But their manager has them playing good football and getting results.

monkey9

OPENROAD wrote: »

Very harsh on Roy imo, will be very interested to see how Liverpool perform over the coming months

It's more than about the next few months though. Hodgson was just a link to the old regime on a three year contract. He wasn't the right man for the job.

We have new owners now who can go searching for the right man and plenty of time to make the choice. Hodgson wasn't the future and proved he wasn't very good in the present either.

OPENROAD

stumpypeeps wrote: »

I don't think that Blackpool team are very good at all. But their manager has them playing good football and getting results.

And they are on the same points as you.

LuckyLloyd

OPENROAD wrote: »

And they are on the same points as you.

Want definitions for overachieve and underachieve?

OPENROAD

monkey9 wrote: »

It's more than about the next few months though. Hodgson was just a link to the old regime on a three year contract. He wasn't the right man for the job.

We have new owners now who can go searching for the right man and plenty of time to make the choice. Hodgson wasn't the future and proved he wasn't very good in the present either.

While I would agree he was possibly not the right choice, I really think Liverpool are roughly in the correct league position at this time, my own view is that Liverpool have over achieved in recent seasons, the squad is pretty average. Dalglish won't get much more out of this team imo

Having said that as you say new owners, have they money to spend?

OPENROAD

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Want definitions for overachieve and underachieve?

I don't feel Liverpool have underachieved.

stumpypeeps

OPENROAD wrote: »

While I would agree he was possibly not the right choice, I really think Liverpool are roughly in the correct league position at this time, my own view is that Liverpool have over achieved in recent seasons, the squad is pretty average. Dalglish won't get much more out of this team imo

Having said that as you say new owners, have they money to spend?

Liverpool received more money from Fifa due to players being involved at the World cup than any other team in the Premiership. I'd suggest we should be higher than 12th.

OPENROAD

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Liverpool received more money from Fifa due to players being involved at the World cup than any other team in the Premiership. I'd suggest we should be higher than 12th.

I disagree. Having said that you will probably move up a bit before the end of the season, but imo with Hodgson you would have done that anyway.

monkey9

OPENROAD wrote: »

While I would agree he was possibly not the right choice, I really think Liverpool are roughly in the correct league position at this time, my own view is that Liverpool have over achieved in recent seasons, the squad is pretty average. Dalglish won't get much more out of this team imo

Having said that as you say new owners, have they money to spend?

I can't agree with this. That squad should be top half, not a few points off relegation in January. I think Kenny will leave us in the top half of the table.

flahavaj

OPENROAD wrote: »

I just don't feel this Liverpool team are very good at all.

They're not. Neither is Roy. I stand by my earlier assertion.

rossie1977

flahavaj wrote: »

Who was worse? Souness maybe?

liverpool were 5th in the table on 43 points after 26 games the day souness was sacked

stumpypeeps

OPENROAD wrote: »

I disagree. Having said that you will probably move up a bit before the end of the season, but imo with Hodgson you would have done that anyway.

Had Hodgson stayed in charge, we would be in a relegation struggle.

If Torres begins to spark, especially now Dalglish is in charge, who he worships, we may finish as high as 6th.

flahavaj

rossie1977 wrote: »

liverpool were 5th in the table on 43 points after 26 games the day souness was sacked

There you go then.

scudzilla

Please please PLEASE let Phil Thompson be his assistant, that would make my year, no, decade.

I'll laugh me c0ck off when it all goes wrong, and it will.

Dalglish was washed up and finished 15yrs ago

rossie1977

OPENROAD wrote: »

And they are on the same points as you.

i think thats the point he was trying to make, where are players of similiar stature to the reinas, torres, gerrards, kuyts, carraghers, aggers in blackpools team

how many brazilian internationals play for blackpool, how many argentinean internationals, how many england caps have the blackpool squad amongst them

OPENROAD wrote: »

I don't feel Liverpool have underachieved.

so you think that quite rightly liverpool are the second worst away team in the league, one win and 7 defeats in 10 away games in not under underachieving, that losing to the wolves at home (who had lost 8 of their 9 away games at that stage) is not underachieving

stumpypeeps

scudzilla wrote: »

Please please PLEASE let Phil Thompson be his assistant, that would make my year, no, decade.

I'll laugh me c0ck off when it all goes wrong, and it will.

Dalglish was washed up and finished 15yrs ago

Laugh your c0ck off? Thats beautiful. Have you been published yet?

SlickRic

OPENROAD wrote: »

I don't feel Liverpool have underachieved.

with all due respect, are you high?

a world class keeper, a world class strike force (Gerrard and Torres), a team full of international players besides, and we're not underachieving?

mental.

absolutely mental.

we're not quite on a par with the squads of the top 5, but we're most definitely not playing to our abilities.

OldmanMondeo

Look Roy is 35 years a manager, but a manager in usually lesser leagues than the BPL. Kenny is a Liverpool legend, he knows the clubs history, he knows what make the club tick, how the fans feel about their club. He can be the stability needed to Anfield. Players will react to him, because they know that he was the last manager to win the league with Liverpool. He studies football even still. He loves the club and the game. I think he will give Liverpool the lift it needs to return to the top half of the table and maybe even push for a European place. Had Roy stayed I believe that we would have finished just off the relegation places, maybe even in the bottom 3. Die hard Liverpool fans, like those at other clubs, know football. They know that Kenny is a good short term replacement, but depending on how the rest of the season goes, could be the long term solution.

People say he walked away form Liverpool FC, yes he did, because of the stress he was under after Hysell and Hillsborough. He had to put his health first. He wanted to come back long before now, sometime in the '90's, as he felt ready then.

flahavaj

scudzilla wrote: »

Please please PLEASE let Phil Thompson be his assistant, that would make my year, no, decade.

I'll laugh me c0ck off when it all goes wrong, and it will.

Dalglish was washed up and finished 15yrs ago

You say this like its a good thing.:pac:

OldmanMondeo

scudzilla wrote: »

Please please PLEASE let Phil Thompson be his assistant, that would make my year, no, decade.

I'll laugh me c0ck off when it all goes wrong, and it will.

Dalglish was washed up and finished 15yrs ago

14 years ago he won the PL with Blackburn, so was he washed up then. Thomo said today that he didn't think he would be asked, and even if he was, he do a dam good job with Ged and filled in great when Ged had heart problems.

OPENROAD

SlickRic wrote: »

with all due respect, are you high?

a world class keeper, a world class strike force (Gerrard and Torres), a team full of international players besides, and we're not underachieving?

mental.

absolutely mental.

we're not quite on a par with the squads of the top 5, but we're most definitely not playing to our abilities.

Just my opinion, Liverpool may well climb the league under Dalglish, that whole area of the table is very congested and if they do climb significantly then I'm wrong, we will see where Liverpool are at the end of the season.

As a matter of interest to Liverpool fans rate the likes of Jonson and Cole?

Will Dalglish be given significant money to spend in Jan?

stumpypeeps

OPENROAD wrote: »

Just my opinion, Liverpool may well climb the league under Dalglish, that whole area of the table is very congested and if they do climb significantly then I'm wrong, we will see where Liverpool are at the end of the season.

As a matter of interest to Liverpool fans rate the likes of Jonson and Cole?

Will Dalglish be given significant money to spend in Jan?

At times Glen Johnson is wonderful going forward but he's been a liability at right back recently and I'd like to see Kelly in there.

As for Cole, well I always thought he was a decent player but he's utterly abject right now.

As for money, I think money is available but I wouldn't imagine huge sums will be spent on any single player. Picking up young players from the continent with potential, I believe will be their modus operandi.

weldoninhio

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

14 years ago he won the PL with Blackburn with a blank chequebook, so was he washed up then. Thomo said today that he didn't think he would be asked, and even if he was, he do a dam good job with Ged and filled in great when Ged had heart problems.

fyp.


Dalglish or King Kenny, as some posters have laughably put is, is not going to change anything at the club. You can crib and cry at everyone that it is only a 5 month temp role, but within those 5 months how can he improve the majority of the squad who are deadwood???

Reina is a world class goalie, theres no doubting that. I'm no gambling addict or alcoholic, but even i can see that Johnson is a liability. Carra is a busted flush living off his "Mr Liverpool" image, Soro is useless, Agger seems to want out. PK is average.

Lucas is average, a brazillian Keith Andrews. Kuyt will run all day, but then so will a labrador. Joe Cole seems to be well over his peak. Meireles looks decent in the centre. But once Stevie Me came back to fitness he was pushed back out wide. I really don't understand the hype that surrounds Stevie Me. He has changed games for you in the past, Istanbul and FA Cup final being the main examples, but how often does he go for the Hollywood ball or shoot from 40 yards out when there is a pass on. How often in the past 2 years has he grabbed the game by the scruff and dragged Liverpool into the fight??

Torres is a decent player, who looks increasingly disillusioned with life at Anfield. He left Atletico to move his career forward, but he is in the same/or worse position at liverpool than he was there.

I think Liverpool are turning into the new Newcastle, the premier leagues No1 soap opera. Both have "a great fanbase", both believe they are still big clubs because of this following, which numerically speaking is true, but you are no longer a top 4 team and won't be again for a long long time. Get used to it.

SlickRic

OPENROAD wrote: »

As a matter of interest to Liverpool fans rate the likes of Jonson and Cole?

Johnson, as he showed in his first season, can be a huge asset to Liverpool, if played correctly.

he has deficiencies, and probably needs his team to be playing more on the front foot to get the best out of him. but, like the rest of the team, his confidence is down, and the style of play previously employed does not lend to encouraging his best form.

that being said, he's been appalling, and needs to buck his ideas up.

Cole, honestly, we haven't seen enough of. i can't even make a call on him. he still has quality, but again, most of his decent work under Roy took place 5o yards away from goal.

OPENROAD wrote: »

Will Dalglish be given significant money to spend in Jan?

i doubt he will, but i'd say the club will spend.

Commolli will be making most, if not all, the decisions on that front.

adox

weldoninhio wrote:

Torres is a decent player.

:pac:

stumpypeeps

weldoninhio wrote: »

fyp.


Dalglish or King Kenny, as some posters have laughably put is, is not going to change anything at the club. You can crib and cry at everyone that it is only a 5 month temp role, but within those 5 months how can he improve the majority of the squad who are deadwood???

Reina is a world class goalie, theres no doubting that. I'm no gambling addict or alcoholic, but even i can see that Johnson is a liability. Carra is a busted flush living off his "Mr Liverpool" image, Soro is useless, Agger seems to want out. PK is average.

Lucas is average, a brazillian Keith Andrews. Kuyt will run all day, but then so will a labrador. Joe Cole seems to be well over his peak. Meireles looks decent in the centre. But once Stevie Me came back to fitness he was pushed back out wide. I really don't understand the hype that surrounds Stevie Me. He has changed games for you in the past, Istanbul and FA Cup final being the main examples, but how often does he go for the Hollywood ball or shoot from 40 yards out when there is a pass on. How often in the past 2 years has he grabbed the game by the scruff and dragged Liverpool into the fight??

Torres is a decent player, who looks increasingly disillusioned with life at Anfield. He left Atletico to move his career forward, but he is in the same/or worse position at liverpool than he was there.

I think Liverpool are turning into the new Newcastle, the premier leagues No1 soap opera. Both have "a great fanbase", both believe they are still big clubs because of this following, which numerically speaking is true, but you are no longer a top 4 team and won't be again for a long long time. Get used to it.

If you have the time check out the Deloitte Football money League 2009. In it you'll find Liverpool are 7th. I think that qualifies Liverpool as a big club. Heck it costs £20 million a year to get your name on the shirt. If Liverpool were anything but a big club why would an Asia based banking company bother spending that. As for success, it seems a long way off now for sure. But we support the club because we love it. Trophies are a bonus whenever they come.

weldoninhio

adox wrote: »

:pac:

He's never played at a really top club and he hardly set the world cup alight, did he? Same as Gerrard, 2 alleged "world class" who've hardly set the world stage alight.

Aidric

weldoninhio wrote: »

Kuyt will run all day, but then so will a labrador.

I'd take Triggs over him tbh.

weldoninhio

stumpypeeps wrote: »

If you have the time check out the Deloitte Football money League 2009. In it you'll find Liverpool are 7th. I think that qualifies Liverpool as a big club. Heck it costs £20 million a year to get your name on the shirt. If Liverpool were anything but a big club why would an Asia based banking company bother spending that. As for success, it seems a long way off now for sure. But we support the club because we love it. Trophies are a bonus whenever they come.

What?? I prefer to check out football played by footballers, rather than by accountants.

Out of curiosity, where are QPR in that list??

stumpypeeps

weldoninhio wrote: »

What?? I prefer to check out football played by footballers, rather than by accountants.

Out of curiosity, where are QPR in that list??

They're not. Its based on turnover. Now with new Uefa rules demanding that no more than 70% of turnover is to be spent on player wages, its very relevant for the future of clubs. Now obviously you're a football purist and have little interest in that but its worth mentioning for future reference.

monkey9

weldoninhio wrote: »

He's never played at a really top club and he hardly set the world cup alight, did he? Same as Gerrard, 2 alleged "world class" who've hardly set the world stage alight.

Did you not get the news. He signed for Liverpool!

rossie1977

weldoninhio wrote: »

He's never played at a really top club and he hardly set the world cup alight, did he? Same as Gerrard, 2 alleged "world class" who've hardly set the world stage alight.

just out of interest who are the really top clubs in your opinion

and no torres or gerrard didn't set the world alight at the last world cup but neither did messi, rooney, lampard, c. ronaldo either for that matter

donfers

The Muppet wrote: »

But It's true, he was never given a chance. Some liverpool fans would never have accepted Roy. I accept Kenny is an interim manager but what appears to be forgotton is that Roy was ever only an Interim Manager as well.

Let's be honest here if the players put in the same performances for Kenny as they did Roy you are in trouble. They shoulder most of the blame.

Everyone bar liverpool fans can see why Liverpool are having the season they are and know that Roy Hodgson is not the primary reason for that.

hmmmm let's see....

who shall we trust when it comes to analysis of Liverpool fc?

The fans, who have the best interests of the team at heart

or......


the fans of rival teams, intellectual heavyweight pundits like Mark Bright, Gary Birtles, Lawrie Sanchez and Paul Merson, Roy's mates in the Londond media and Sky sports reactionary xenophobes INC. - notice also that the majority of this group grew up when Liverpool were winning everything and almost all of them are still bitter and envious of Liverpool's success as the most successful club in history in England...

so I ask again, who to believe?

The fans, who want the team to do well

or the group of agenda-driven embittered Liverpool haters


real toughie that one!

The right decision was made, igniore the morons, onwards and upwards, we're on our way back to where we belong

CoalBucket

hideous ape wrote: »

This thread reeks of Sky generation!

Nah buddy I'm old enough to remember Kenny the first time around and before that too.

weldoninhio

rossie1977 wrote: »

just out of interest who are the really top clubs in your opinion

and no torres or gerrard didn't set the world alight at the last world cup but neither did messi, rooney, lampard, c. ronaldo either for that matter

Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Chelsea, Man Utd etc. Teams who consistently win, or challenge for their league title.

monkey9

weldoninhio wrote: »

Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Chelsea, Man Utd etc. Teams who consistently win, or challenge for their league title.

Don't forget Bohs, Celtic and Rangers, TNS, Rubin Kazan, Lyon, Flumenese, Linfield etc. All bigger clubs than Liverpool!!

weldoninhio

monkey9 wrote: »

Don't forget Bohs, Celtic and Rangers, TNS, Rubin Kazan, Lyon, Flumenese, Linfield etc. All bigger clubs than Liverpool!!

I didn't forget them, i went for teams who Liverpool fans think they are on a level with.

stumpypeeps

weldoninhio wrote: »

I didn't forget them, i went for teams who Liverpool fans think they are on a level with.

You know what Liverpool fans think now? A big club in my opinion has a big following, worldwide.

rossie1977

weldoninhio wrote: »

Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Chelsea, Man Utd etc. Teams who consistently win, or challenge for their league title.

so when man utd were going 25 years without a title, they in your eyes were not a top club, inter prior to winning the league by actually topping the table in 2007 hadn't won a league title since 1989

its interesting under rafa liverpool beat every one of those in europe (barring man utd) and ended up geting the sack

Mr.Nice Guy

donfers wrote:

hmmmm let's see....

who shall we trust when it comes to analysis of Liverpool fc?

The fans, who have the best interests of the team at heart

or......


the fans of rival teams, intellectual heavyweight pundits like Mark Bright, Gary Birtles, Lawrie Sanchez and Paul Merson, Roy's mates in the Londond media and Sky sports reactionary xenophobes INC. - notice also that the majority of this group grew up when Liverpool were winning everything and almost all of them are still bitter and envious of Liverpool's success as the most successful club in history in England...

so I ask again, who to believe?

The fans, who want the team to do well

or the group of agenda-driven embittered Liverpool haters


real toughie that one!

The right decision was made, igniore the morons, onwards and upwards, we're on our way back to where we belong

Who to believe? Maybe Liverpool legends like Barnes, Keegan and Rush among others who called on the man to be given more time, or brilliant managers like Wenger and Ferguson who only days ago called for greater stability? Who are the real morons?

This frenzied hate mob of ignorance which demanded miracles has seen a good man get the chop and the lazy wasters who pulled on the Liverpool shirt have gotten away with murder in football terms. No doubt they will now do the usual thing lazy prima donnas do when a new manager comes in and actually try and win for 'King Kenny' and this will be used as another stick to beat Hodgson with. 'Roy never got this kind of performance out of the players, lolz!'

Meanwhile, in the real world, a good man has lost his job because of the madness of what is now modern day football. Who's next one wonders? The guy who won the double for Chelsea last season? Liverpool have gone from a club that used to stick by managers to just another member of the manager-merry-go-round. Sad day for the game.

Of course the former players of Liverpool, the great managers of the game, those who actually believe players are responsible for what goes on as well, we are all haters so insert the usual bullsh*t phrases 'haters gonna hate' etc. Gotta keep snug and secure in the paranoia-filled cocoon or ignorance. 'Follow the trend, follow the trend'.

On the plus side, seeing as I have a lot of time for Roy and found it hard to fully enjoy Liverpool's implosion as a result, I can now wholeheartedly look forward to hopefully seeing a thoroughly unlikeable Liverpool manager getting whooped by the great champion that is Sir Alex.

Come on Fergie. This one's for Woy.

stumpypeeps

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Who to believe? Maybe Liverpool legends like Barnes, Keegan and Rush among others who called on the man to be given more time, or brilliant managers like Wenger and Ferguson who only days ago called for greater stability? Who are the real morons?

This frenzied hate mob of ignorance which demanded miracles has seen a good man get the chop and the lazy wasters who pulled on the Liverpool shirt have gotten away with murder in football terms. No doubt they will now do the usual thing lazy prima donnas do when a new manager comes in and actually try and win for 'King Kenny' and this will be used as another stick to beat Hodgson with. 'Roy never got this kind of performance out of the players, lolz!'

Meanwhile, in the real world, a good man has lost his job because of the madness of what is now modern day football. Who's next one wonders? The guy who won the double for Chelsea last season? Liverpool have gone from a club that used to stick by managers to just another member of the manager-merry-go-round. Sad day for the game.

Of course the former players of Liverpool, the great managers of the game, those who actually believe players are responsible for what goes on as well, we are all haters so insert the usual bullsh*t phrases 'haters gonna hate' etc. Gotta keep snug and secure in the paranoia-filled cocoon or ignorance. 'Follow the trend, follow the trend'.

On the plus side, seeing as I have a lot of time for Roy and found it hard to fully enjoy Liverpool's implosion as a result, I can now wholeheartedly look forward to hopefully seeing a thoroughly unlikeable Liverpool manager getting whooped by the great champion that is Sir Alex.

Come on Fergie. This one's for Woy.

Really? Kenny Dalglish thoroughly unlikeable?

By the way the rest of your post is the biggest pile of horse**** I've ever read. No offence.;)

weldoninhio

rossie1977 wrote: »

so when man utd were going 25 years without a title, they in your eyes were not a top club, inter prior to winning the league by actually topping the table in 2007 hadn't won a league title since 1989

its interesting under rafa liverpool beat every one of those in europe (barring man utd) and ended up geting the sack

No, when Utd were not winning the league and were in the old First Division they were not a big team. Inter may not have won the league, but they consistently challenged.

Its not that interesting, Stevenage beat Newcastle today, doesn't make them a big club, or even a middling club. Rafa built a decent cup team, nothing more.

SlickRic

MNG, i don't know if that entire post is tongue-in-cheek, but even the most avid of rival fans cannot think he was doing a good job.

we have not turned into another club who just sacks managers.

Roy was inept in pretty much every department.

the only reason you think Hodgson is a good man who should never been fired, i suspect, is because he made us about as threatening as a kitten. of course rival fans would like him as our manager.

the next manager will be given time. i guarantee it.

i can find you Liverpool legends of the past who also thought his time was up - the likes of Hansen and Aldridge. so it's not a universal thing that past players wanted him to stay.

it was the right decision. whether he's a good manager or not, he just did not fit in with Liverpool.

c'est la vie.

plus, Hodgson's a mate of Fergie's...might have something to do with a few of utd's fans favouring wanting Roy to stay too. seen as Fergie could say what he likes about our players without any risk of being shown up for talking shít by our manager.

as i say, glad he's gone; Roy was a stop-gap anyway, and it didn't work.

the only problem with the Dalglish appointment is, as someone said to me today, if he does any way well, he might be impossible for the owners to sack, depending on how some of the Liverpool faithful take to Kenny during this stint.

but on the face of it; it's a win win for the club, supporters and Kenny.

just not Roy; but someone had to bite the bullet. you can't sack the players, so the manager, who couldn't get them playing, had to be the one to change.

donfers

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Who to believe? Maybe Liverpool legends like Barnes, Keegan and Rush among others who called on the man to be given more time, or brilliant managers like Wenger and Ferguson who only days ago called for greater stability? Who are the real morons?

This frenzied hate mob of ignorance which demanded miracles has seen a good man get the chop and the lazy wasters who pulled on the Liverpool shirt have gotten away with murder in football terms. No doubt they will now do the usual thing lazy prima donnas do when a new manager comes in and actually try and win for 'King Kenny' and this will be used as another stick to beat Hodgson with. 'Roy never got this kind of performance out of the players, lolz!'

Meanwhile, in the real world, a good man has lost his job because of the madness of what is now modern day football. Who's next one wonders? The guy who won the double for Chelsea last season? Liverpool have gone from a club that used to stick by managers to just another member of the manager-merry-go-round. Sad day for the game.

Of course the former players of Liverpool, the great managers of the game, those who actually believe players are responsible for what goes on as well, we are all haters so insert the usual bullsh*t phrases 'haters gonna hate' etc. Gotta keep snug and secure in the paranoia-filled cocoon or ignorance. 'Follow the trend, follow the trend'.

On the plus side, seeing as I have a lot of time for Roy and found it hard to fully enjoy Liverpool's implosion as a result, I can now wholeheartedly look forward to hopefully seeing a thoroughly unlikeable Liverpool manager getting whooped by the great champion that is Sir Alex.

Come on Fergie. This one's for Woy.

that people like you get so wound up by the king's return is yet more proof that it's the right decision

your post is utter garbage and as i said in my post i'll ignore the morons so I'm not going to bite

all that matters today is the king is back, petty-minded agenda-driven hypocritical supporters of other clubs can not change that one bit:)

Mr.Nice Guy

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Really? Kenny Dalglish thoroughly unlikeable?

By the way the rest of your post is the biggest pile of horse**** I've ever read. No offence.;)

Thoroughly unlikeable to United fans, yes! And no offence taken as you're not the first Liverpool fan on these parts to take a detailed post of mine and respond with some form of disrespectful comment and I guess I should take that as a compliment. I'm here to engage. Some aren't.

SlickRic wrote:

MNG, i don't know if that entire post is tongue-in-cheek, but even the most avid of rival fans cannot think he was doing a good job.

we have not turned into another club who just sacks managers.

Roy was inept in pretty much every department.

the only reason you think Hodgson is a good man who should never been fired, i suspect, is because he made us about as threatening as a kitten. of course rival fans would like him as our manager.

the next manager will be given time. i guarantee it.

i can find you Liverpool legends of the past who also thought his time was up - the likes of Hansen and Aldridge. so it's not a universal thing that past players wanted him to stay.

it was the right decision. whether he's a good manager or not, he just did not fit in with Liverpool.

c'est la vie.

plus, Hodgson's a mate of Fergie's...might have something to do with a few utd's fans favouring of wanting Roy to stay too. seen as Fergie could say what he likes about our players without any risk of being shown up for talking shít by our manager.

as i say, glad he's gone; Roy was a stop-gap anyway, and it didn't work.

the only problem with the Dalglish appointment is, as someone said to me today, if he does any way well, he might be impossible for the owners to sack, depending on how some of the Liverpool faithful take to Kenny during this stint.

but on the face of it; it's a win win for the club, supporters and Kenny.

just not Roy; but someone had to bite the bullet. you can't sack the players, so the manager, who couldn't get them playing, had to be the one to change.

It's not tongue-in-cheek. I admire the man and that's been no secret. I had hoped he would take the Ireland job when Stan got the boot and I was a big fan of his time at Fulham and thought he did a terrific job there overall. I feel he was never truly given a chance at Liverpool because some just had it in for him from day one.

It's funny because I can actually remember when he got appointed initially and I remember many United fans including myself saying why couldn't Liverpool have appointed someone we disliked and I actually remember some comments from Pool fans along the lines of 'I wonder how long it is until rival fans turn on Hodgson and start hating him'. Well in actual fact it was the Liverpool fans who turned on him and as much as I dislike Liverpool - as all United fans do - I have never said anything bad about the chap because I respect him as a decent guy who - imo - never got a fair crack at it due to several quarters wanting him to fail from the off.

I accept he was not getting great performances but where I differ with many is that I don't think managers are entirely responsible for this and I feel some of the Liverpool players, most in fact, have just not played at their best and I don't blame this on Roy. The form of Torres, Johnson etc is not his fault.

I believe he should have gotten until the end of the season and as Barnes said a few weeks ago, when the players know it is the manager who will get the blame when results don't go their way, where is the incentive to perform? It's like when Clough went to Leeds (and before anyone jumps in no I'm not suggesting the two situations are identical or that Hodgson is remotely on the level of Clough) but sometimes managers go to a team and the fans aren't keen, the players are underwhelmed and when it all goes tits up what happens - the manager gets canned. Sometimes, good ones. Just my view on it.

Cheers for responding though as it's better than people coming on and saying 'your post is sh*t, garbage, etc. In the words of the great Bill O', 'I'm just putting forward an alternative view'.