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Skoda Superb Combi eligible for scrappage?

  • 09-01-2011 7:15pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 17


    The 1.6 TDI (105BHP) Greeline version of the Superb Combi fits into tax band A - making it eligible for scrappage, I think

    The regular pricelist is:

    Comfort 27,045
    Ambition 28,750
    Elegance 31,100

    Given that govt scrappage is 1,250 what do folks think a good final price is?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭whippet


    I am ordering a combi elegance this week ... Aim to get between €2-3k off the asking price for cash depending on your spec ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭whippet


    OSI wrote: »
    105BHP in a car that big, and heavy?

    It's not a performance car :rolleyes:, but it does have about 250 torques (clarkson speak) ...considering a 318i touring has 190 torques ...BHP isn't everything.

    Mind you I'm ordering the 2.0l TDI 170 bhp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    whippet wrote: »
    It's not a performance car :rolleyes:, but it does have about 250 torques (clarkson speak) ...considering a 318i touring has 190 torques ...BHP isn't everything.

    Mind you I'm ordering the 2.0l TDI 170 bhp.

    Well people were questioning the ability of the 1.5 Laguna which has a few more bhp to move last week. The Superb is about 160kg heavier. Thats the same as carrying 2 adult passengers all the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    I think they are the finest estate car on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭whippet


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    I think they are the finest estate car on the road.

    I actually test drove a good few estates in the wind up and the Superb came up trumps on all levels.

    I did have a hankering for the V70, but it was just a bit too pricey when spec'ed up to what I wanted.

    On the elegance model there is very few options left to tick on the order form.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    whippet wrote: »
    I actually test drove a good few estates in the wind up and the Superb came up trumps on all levels.

    I did have a hankering for the V70, but it was just a bit too pricey when spec'ed up to what I wanted.

    On the elegance model there is very few options left to tick on the order form.

    True. My missus hates estates for some reason but I kinda like them. You get some spec for 31K. It leaves the new Passat Highline look fairly poor. That dont even have cruise as standard now..:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭whippet


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    True. My missus hates estates for some reason but I kinda like them. You get some spec for 31K. It leaves the new Passat Highline look fairly poor. That dont even have cruise as standard now..:rolleyes:

    I did consider the passat .. but just couldn't justify sacrificing things like satnav, park assist, cruise etc for a badge.

    It will be a big change from a GTI to a daysul estate for myself but growing up is all about adaptions:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    True. My missus hates estates for some reason but I kinda like them. You get some spec for 31K. It leaves the new Passat Highline look fairly poor. That dont even have cruise as standard now..:rolleyes:

    Skoda is €37,195 in Elegence spec with the 170 CR TDI DSG.
    Passat is € 39,640 in Highline spec with the 170 CR TDI DSG. You can have a the 4x4 in the Skoda. Suppose that is on the way with the Passat.

    I do really like the look of the new Passat estate but the Superb is just on another level in spec.

    Interesting for some is that the new chassis (PQ46) which the Passat and Superb are based are actually meant to be longer wheel base versions of the Golf/Octavia (PQ35) and has little to do with the Audi A4 unlike the old days where I think they all shared the B platform.
    EDIT:
    I did a huge edit there to make it a bit clearer.

    From what i make out both Skoda and VW have three trim levels.
    Skoda has COMFORT, AMBITION and ELEGANCE which I just called Trend, Comfort and Highline like VW for clarity.

    Passat Estate Interior Standard stuff
    Leather Steering Wheel
    Leather gearshift knob
    Analog clock in dashboard
    Matte Chromium decorative inserts for dashboard and doors
    Chrome style decorative inserts for center console
    Plastic door sills in door apertures
    Floor mats front and rear
    Flat woven fabric door lining
    Textile luggage compartment trim
    Fabric seat coverings "Conte"
    Manually Adjustable Lumbar Support on front seats
    Front seats with manual height adjustment
    Front center armrest with storage box, height and longitudinally adjustable, 2 vents in rear
    Asymmetrical split folding of rear seat, with centre armrest
    Manually dimming interior mirror
    Interior light, front and rear with switch-off delay and dimmer, 2 reading lights, front
    Vanity mirror in sun visor for front seats
    Front vent and rotary light switch illuminated, with chrome trim
    Chrome d�cor rings on the instruments in the instrument cluster
    Lockable glove compartment, illuminated
    Heat-insulating glass
    2 cup holders, front
    Storage compartment with flap in roof console
    Smoking package with ashtray & cigarette lighter, front
    Auto-dimming interior mirror
    Decorative inserts in ornamental wood "Zebrano" in dashboard & doors
    With brushed alluminium decorative inserts in centre console
    Comfort seats, front
    Fabric seat coverings "Matera"
    Electric backrest adjustment for drivers seat
    Electrically adjustable lumbar support for driver's seat
    Storage pockets at the rear of the front seats
    Mirror adjustment and window lift switch with chrome trim
    Stainless steel door sills in front & rear, with "Passat" nameplate
    Centres of seats in Alcantara, center arm rest surfaces as well as sides of seats in leather "Vienna"
    Heated front seats


    Exterior

    16" steel wheels with attractive full-size covers
    16" 'Perugia' alloy wheels
    17" 'Michigan' alloy wheels
    Standard wheel bolts & Wheel locks, Lug wrench and jack
    Black painted radiator grille with chrome moldings on the fins
    Black front and side protective side molding
    Bumpers in body color and outer air intakes with chrome strip
    Black decorative trim on the side windows
    Outside mirror housing and door handles in body colour
    Turn indicators in LED technology integrated in outside mirrors
    Front fog lights with chrome trims and fixed bending light
    Rear fog light
    Black roof rails
    Chrome strips on the side windows
    Front d�cor strips, sills at side and rear in chrome
    Exterior mirror auto-dimming on driver's side
    Air intakes painted black with chrome strips
    Silver anodized roof rails


    Functional
    Functional Equipment
    Start/stop system with recuperation
    Comfort start function "Press & Drive" central locking system with remote control, 2 remote control keys
    Climatic air conditioning (Manual)
    Dust and pollen filters with activated charcoal insert
    Electric windows, front and rear
    Exterior mirrors, electrically adjustable and heated
    Electric parking brake with auto-hold function and hill hold control
    Electromechanical speed-sensitive power steering
    Electric auxiliary air heater (Diesel models only)
    Halogen twin headlamps and turn signal lights
    Headlight-range adjustment
    Separate daytime running lights
    Interior unlocking for boot and fuel tank flap
    RCD 310 4 x 20 W, 8 speakers, MP3 player and Aux-in
    Multi-function display "Plus"
    Two-tone horn
    Full size steel spare wheel and wrench/jack
    Aut. headlight activation with separate daytime running lights, "Leaving Home" & manual "Coming Home" function
    Multifunction Leather Steering Wheel
    Multi-function display "Premium" with multi-color TFT display
    12-volt socket in luggage compartment
    Climatronic air conditioning (2-zone temp. regulation Automatic)
    Fatigue Detection (Rest Assist)
    Bag hooks in boot
    Radio "RCD 510" 6.5" Colour Touch Screen with MP3 replay function incl.
    CD changer for 6 CDs & Aux-in
    Automatically heated washer nozzles, front
    Tyre pressure monitoring system
    Full size alloy spare wheel 17 Inch

    Safety

    ESP (Electronic Stability Programme) incl. ABS with brake assistant, ASR, EDL, EDTC & trailer roll stability program
    Electronic immobiliser
    Driver's and front passenger air bag with front passenger deactivation
    Curtain air bag system for front and rear passengers including side air bags front
    Safety-optimized front head restraints
    3 rear headrests with center headrest lowerable
    3-point seat belts front with height adjustment and seat-belt tensioner
    3-point seat belts, rear
    Warning signal and warning light for front seat belts not fastened
    ISOFIX anchorage points for two child seats on rear seat
    Warning triangle
    Reflectors in all doors

    Skoda Superb


    Design - Skoda trendline
    Steel wheels 7.0J x 16" with Tempel hub
    covers, 205/55 R16 tyres
    Interior chrome package
    Ray interior with stromboli décor
    Black-black dashboar


    Design Skoda Comfortline (Added onto trendline)
    Chrome strip along the rear door, front
    grille and side windows
    Spectrum alloy wheels 7.0J x 16" , 205/55
    R16 tyres
    Emory Onyx interior (combination of
    leather/artificial leather/Alcantara) with
    'Nobless' wood déco


    Design Skoda Highline (includes other two)
    TRIFID alloy wheels 7.0J x 17", 225/45 R17
    tyres
    Chrome door protective strips
    Glamour full leather interior (option of
    black or ivory) with 'Noblesse' wood décor
    Black-black or black-Ivory dashboar






    Safety Skoda Trendline
    ESP incl. ABS + MSR + ASR + EDS + HBA
    Driver and passenger, front side and head
    airbags and driver knee airbag
    Door open lights on door panelling
    Front passenger airbag deactivation switch
    Engine Immobiliser
    Two Isofix child seat fittings (on outer rear
    seats)
    Fog lamps integrated in front bumper
    Height- and tilt- adjustable front headrests
    Front seat belt warning light
    Height-adjustable rear headrests
    Three 3-point rear seat belts with
    tensioners (tensioners on outer rear seats)
    3-point height-adjustable front seat belts
    with tensioner


    Safety Skoda Highline, adds onto Trend
    TPM (Tyre Pressure Monitoring)
    Bi-Xenon head lamps with AFS (Adaptive
    Front Light System) and integrated
    telescopic headlamp washers
    Front fog lamps with Cornering Function




    Functionality Skoda Trendline
    Diffused interior lighting (CatVision), two
    front and two rear reading lamps
    Extendable roll cover for the luggage
    compartment
    Parking ticket holder
    Front drinks holder
    Two foldable hooks in the luggage
    compartment
    Black roof rails
    Two front swing down ceiling grab handles
    and two rear swing down ceiling grab
    handles with coat hooks
    12V outlets located in the front centre
    console and rear console
    Electro-mechanical power-assisted
    steering
    Maxi DOT MFA (multifunction indicator)
    Storage pockets in front seat backrests
    Illuminated storage compartment in centre
    console
    Storage drawer under front passenger seat
    Front centre armrest with storage area
    Illuminated and air-conditioned front
    passenger glove compartment
    Shark fin aerial
    Luggage compartment illumination
    WIV (variable service intervals up to
    30,000km or 2-years)
    Front Aero-wipers
    16" steel spare wheel
    Sunglasses storage compartment
    Six load securing eyelets in luggage
    compartment
    Inner door handles with illumination
    Height- and reach- adjustable 4-spoke
    multi-function steering wheel for operation
    of sound system & Maxi-Dot display
    Split folding rear seats
    12V power outlet in luggage compartment

    Functionality Skoda Comfortline, adds onto Trend
    Anodised roof rails (silver)
    Storage net on centre console on passenger
    side and storage compartments above rear
    wheel arches, with lids
    Integrated aluminium mouldings with fixing
    elements
    Removable LED lamp in the luggage
    compartment
    Decorative front and rear door sill strips
    Sun glasses holder


    Functionality Skoda Highline, adds onto other two
    Centre console drinks holder with
    laminated cover
    Rear armrest drinks holder
    Heated windscreen washer nozzle

    Comfort Skoda Trendline
    Audio jack for iPod or MP3 connection to
    vehicle sound system
    Remote control central locking with two
    foldable keys
    Climatronic - dual-zone air conditioning
    with electronic regulation, odour filter with
    automatic circulation
    Electrically adjustable and folding heated
    external mirrors with integrated indicator
    signals
    Electric front and rear windows with child
    safety lock
    Light Assistant (Coming Home, Leaving
    Home, Tunnel Light, Day Light functions)
    Small leather package (leather steering
    wheel, leather handbrake handle and gear
    stick knob and sleeve)
    Swing radio with CD player,MP3 player and
    8 speaker sound system
    Tinted windows
    Cruise control
    Auto-dimming rear view mirror with rain
    sensing wipers
    Height-adjustable front seats with lumbar
    support
    Rear armrest with access to the luggage
    compartment

    Comfort Skoda Comfortline, adds onto Trend
    Height- and reach- adjustable 4-spoke
    multi- function steering wheel for
    operation of sound system and BlueTooth
    wireless phone connection
    Bolero touch-screen radio with integrated
    6-CD changer, MP3 player, SD Card Port
    and BlueTooth compatible
    Rear parking sensors
    Heated front seats

    Comfort Skoda Highline, adds onto other two
    Columbus navigation system with
    dynamic module (map software CD not
    included)
    Parking Assistant (system will steer
    vehicle during parallel parking
    manoeuvres) with front and rear parking
    sensors
    Electrically adjustable driver and passenger
    seat, driver seat with memory function
    (without storage box under passenger seat)
    Heated front and rear seats
    Electrically adjustable auto-dimming
    heated external mirrors









    GREENLINE TECHNOLOGY
    16" Spectrum alloy wheels (not included
    on comfort models)
    Optimised rolling resistance
    Start-stop technology
    Compressor Kit (no spare wheel)


    EDIT: The things I will do to procrastinate!


    http://www.skoda.ie/IRL/Documents/New_Superb/Superb%20Combi%20Prices_Dec2010.pdf
    http://www.volkswagen.ie/media/country/ie/x/pdf_downloads/product_guides.Par.0007.File.pdf/product_guide_passat.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭freighter


    whippet wrote: »
    I did consider the passat .. but just couldn't justify sacrificing things like satnav, park assist, cruise etc for a badge.

    It will be a big change from a GTI to a daysul estate for myself but growing up is all about adaptions:o

    Have one ordered myself. I have a Highline estate at the moment. VW are a joke thinking people are still going to pay crazy money for underspecced cars. My Passat gave a load of trouble aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    I think they are the finest estate car on the road.

    Thats a big claim considering the opposition


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    whippet wrote: »
    I did consider the passat .. but just couldn't justify sacrificing things like satnav, park assist, cruise etc for a badge.

    It will be a big change from a GTI to a daysul estate for myself but growing up is all about adaptions:o

    Its very easy to get about 220 bhp from the Tdi 170 Superb. Not at all boring;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Thats a big claim considering the opposition

    I know what you are saying but look at the price and the spec. The depreciation is as good as VW now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,699 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    I'd say a 1.6Tdi Superb will have to be pushed like crazy to get it to go anywhere.

    I've driven a Passat 1.6Tdi (B6) quite extensivley (sp?). It's good for a steady 100km/h on the Motorway, but struggles above that and needs a bit of work to get half decent performance around town. I've heard (from someone who knows what he's talking about, not the man down the pub) that the 1.6Tdi really struggles in the Passat estate, so I'd say it's even worse in the Superb.

    1.9Tdi would be a better bet if you can still order them as the torque is available lower in the rev range.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 crenacille


    Here's a owner review of the 1.6 estate from briskoda.net.

    Obviously the guy is just after buying the car so he's not going to say that it does not meet his needs.

    I'm a fairly conservative driver so I'm wondering if 105 BHP is adequate....I need to take her for a test drive fully loaded....


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