Liverpool's Ryan Babel faces FA probe for Twitter blast at Howard Webb

parker kent · 10-01-2011 7:10pm

MR NINE wrote: »

What a joke. Theres not even proof Babel actually did anything. (I know it was obviously him, but it can't be proved)

I have a feeling this might work out similar to the old Eduardo dive scandal. The FA are opening a serious can of worms if this punishment goes ahead.

What about Fabregas and Sczezny openly criticising a ref on their twitter accounts last week. To name just two quick examples.

Babel has already apologized, so he has admitted it was him.

I don't think players should criticize referrers in public as it leads to numerous other problems. Plus posting a picture of Webb in a United jersey is beyond mere criticism. Despite what others say there is a clear link with saying that Webb favours United.

I guess that is what happens when you give idiots a soapbox, they will say idiotic things. Anybody familiar with Babel's previous tweets and those of many other footballers should realise that.

Kess73 · 10-01-2011 7:16pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Fabregas or scscsesny didn't post a picture of the Ref in the opposition's jersey.

That's what most of the fuss is about imo.

Nobody cares he said that howard webb isn't the countries greatest.

But where does the line get drawn?

Is it ok for a player to say a ref is incompetent on twitter, but not ok to put up a childish picture?

What level of criticism from a player on Twitter will be deemed acceptable?

What about if a player says something bad about another player or manager on Twitter? Will that be seen as bringing the game into disrepute?

Or if a player has a go at the chairman of his club?

I just see too much potential for a can or worms to be opened unless the FA become decisive and consistent in their approach to internet related issues.

It is a sad reflection on the modern game though when a fugging social network starts to become a part of the issues affecting the game.

Mister men · 10-01-2011 7:23pm

I wonder if an English international had done something likewise if the FA would be stamping down like this? Me thinks not.

Mister men · 10-01-2011 7:25pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the lad should concentrate on actually being good at football before he starts posting things like that...he aint exactly a top performer himself is he?

at least ferdinand for example has the medals behind him if he was to give out about anybody.

So players from teams like United can get away with things because they have medals right. More or less the same as on the pitch then?

m@cc@ · 10-01-2011 7:27pm

Chucky the tree wrote: »

:pac: I had a feeling the Maud flanders brigade would be here soon.

More like Helen Lovejoy I would have said.

R_H_C_P wrote: »

And under what law will they be prosecuted on?

Defamation of character.

del88 · 10-01-2011 7:33pm

Sad state of affairs when a player after losing against his teams biggest rivals decides to have a laugh and craic jokes about the ref instead of being embarrassed and ashamed to show his face........
He'd have been better off studying videos of his own performances in a Liverpool shirt then being a comedian....

Mister men · 10-01-2011 7:37pm

If i was Ryan i'd take this matter to the courts as a right to free speech. The tweet did not say anything derogatory and the picture was merely a mock up of Webb in a Manchester United top, full of innuendo and circumstantial.

Tbh i like how Babel's brought this whole issue to light. Webb can't possibly be allowed to referee games between us and United again and will be under scrutiny every time he manages United in the future. Well in Ryan.

m@cc@ · 10-01-2011 7:40pm

Mister men wrote: »

If i was Ryan i'd take this matter to the courts as a right to free speech.

Under what law do you have a right to free speech?

thegen · 10-01-2011 7:45pm

Can it be actually proved it was Babel? Can they force Twitter to divulge account info?

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 7:45pm

m@cc@ wrote: »

Defamation of character.

Defamation of character is notoriously difficult to prove. There was no quote from Babel, just a picture, and a copied publicly available picture at that.

Has Webb suffered any sort of loss as a result of Babels actions? Is that picture alone enough to defame Webb? Not a chance in hell has he a case, and if he had could every pundit be sued for claiming a player is useless/not trying?

del88 wrote: »

He'd have been better off studying videos of his own performances in a Liverpool shirt then being a comedian....

What sort of argument is that? You could apply that logic everytime a player from a loosing team is seen out in public for reasons other then training. Whats he doing ads/appearing on TV/out shopping for?? He should be studying his own performances etc...

m@cc@ · 10-01-2011 7:47pm

tommyhaas wrote: »

Defamation of character is notoriously difficult to prove. There was no quote from Babel, just a picture, and a copied publicly available picture at that.

I'm not saying it's a good case but the previous poster asked under what law could Webb take them to court.

del88 · 10-01-2011 7:48pm

Mister men wrote: »

If i was Ryan i'd take this matter to the courts as a right to free speech. The tweet did not say anything derogatory and the picture was merely a mock up of Webb in a Manchester United top, full of innuendo and circumstantial.

Tbh i like how Babel's brought this whole issue to light. Webb can't possibly be allowed to referee games between us and United again and will be under scrutiny every time he manages United in the future. Well in Ryan.

Seriously....Liverpool players need to concentrate on rebuilding the team not on the performance of a referee....Liverpool ain't 4 points off the relegation zone because of Howard web...just as united ain't top for the same reason...

DOC09UNAM · 10-01-2011 7:48pm

Mister men wrote: »

I wonder if an English international had done something likewise if the FA would be stamping down like this? Me thinks not.

Sounds like you're calling the FA prejudiced.

del88 · 10-01-2011 7:50pm

[QUOTE=What sort of argument is that? You could apply that logic everytime a player from a loosing team is seen out in public for reasons other then training. Whats he doing ads/appearing on TV/out shopping for?? He should be studying his own performances etc...[/QUOTE]

Because he has being playing way below par....not fit to wear the jersey....

DOC09UNAM · 10-01-2011 7:52pm

Mister men wrote: »

If i was Ryan i'd take this matter to the courts as a right to free speech. The tweet did not say anything derogatory and the picture was merely a mock up of Webb in a Manchester United top, full of innuendo and circumstantial.

Tbh i like how Babel's brought this whole issue to light. Webb can't possibly be allowed to referee games between us and United again and will be under scrutiny every time he manages United in the future. Well in Ryan.

Isn't that the worst outcome for you?

No excuses to be crying over when you lose, might eventually have to admit you deserved to lose a game for once.

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 7:54pm

del88 wrote: »

Because he has being playing way below par....not fit to wear the jersey....

He still has the right do what he wants in his own time, be it go on twitter or rapping

m@cc@ · 10-01-2011 7:56pm

tommyhaas wrote: »

He still has the right do what he wants in his own time, be it go on twitter or rapping

Couldn't be any worse that John Barnes anyway.

Mr. Presentable · 10-01-2011 7:59pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

You'll notice he said "A player saying an official is corrupt isn't a smart move"

He never said "Babel said webb was corrupt".

Simples.

Also, bunch of fúcking hypocrites, when Wigan score a goal that shouldn't count, the first in are the ABU brigade saying "Get over it" and "It evens itself out".

Well stfu, it just did, stop crying that it's a conspiracy please.

Oh please. Context dear boy. Or has a red mist decended? He said a player but clearly implicated Babel. I sometimes wonder why I bother with SF, it's often like conversing with ten year olds.

del88 · 10-01-2011 7:59pm

tommyhaas wrote: »

He still has the right do what he wants in his own time, be it go on twitter or rapping

Maybe....But if i was kenny Dalglish i'd tell him to keep his mouth shut and concentrate on playing league winning football...

Ordinary man · 10-01-2011 8:01pm

Mister men wrote: »

If i was Ryan i'd take this matter to the courts as a right to free speech. The tweet did not say anything derogatory and the picture was merely a mock up of Webb in a Manchester United top, full of innuendo and circumstantial.

Tbh i like how Babel's brought this whole issue to light. Webb can't possibly be allowed to referee games between us and United again and will be under scrutiny every time he manages United in the future. Well in Ryan.

It must be great that liverpool supporters and players are able to blame the ref even though no matter who was reffing yesterday gerrard would have got red and united would have got at least 1 penalty. What excuse in next when the manager one and the referee one are used up? The pitch?

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 8:04pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

It must be great that liverpool supporters and players are able to blame the ref even though no matter who was reffing yesterday gerrard would have got red and united would have got at least 1 penalty. What excuse in next when the manager one and the referee one are used up? The pitch?

Maybe blame the jerseys? Nah, too ridiculous to ever happen..

Benimar · 10-01-2011 8:08pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

It must be great that liverpool supporters and players are able to blame the ref even though no matter who was reffing yesterday gerrard would have got red and united would have got at least 1 penalty. What excuse in next when the manager one and the referee one are used up? The pitch?

Colour of our jerseys?

10-01-2011 8:17pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

It must be great that liverpool supporters and players are able to blame the ref even though no matter who was reffing yesterday gerrard would have got red and united would have got at least 1 penalty. What excuse in next when the manager one and the referee one are used up? The pitch?

That's a mighty big brush you are using there.

Plus it doesn't make sense. At all. Is it even English?

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 8:17pm

Benimar wrote: »

Colour of our jerseys?

Its notorously difficult to pick out a player wearing that invisible shade of grey

niallo27 · 10-01-2011 8:30pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Isn't that the worst outcome for you?

No excuses to be crying over when you lose, might eventually have to admit you deserved to lose a game for once.

That's all we want, we want a level playing field, and if Liverpool lose I'll put my hands up and say they deserved to lose

RasTa · 10-01-2011 8:36pm

lol at all the legal experts on this thread

BERBA · 10-01-2011 8:44pm

niallo27 wrote: »

That's all we want, we want a level playing field, and if Liverpool lose I'll put my hands up and say they deserved to lose

They deserved to lose yday:rolleyes:

10-01-2011 8:53pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

It must be great that liverpool supporters and players are able to blame the ref even though no matter who was reffing yesterday gerrard would have got red and united would have got at least 1 penalty. What excuse in next when the manager one and the referee one are used up? The pitch?

Imo a lot of ref's would have booked him and not sent him off, Ive seen Gerrard and other players stay on the pitch after much worse tackles and united would be in no way guaranteed a peno either with a different ref. The incident on evans would never be given other wise there would be 20 spotters in every game and that was the only thing close to being an actual penalty.

niallo27 · 10-01-2011 8:54pm

BERBA wrote: »

They deserved to lose yday:rolleyes:

Well the defended well, and without the help of webb would utd have scored, who knows

Ordinary man · 10-01-2011 9:01pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

That's a mighty big brush you are using there.

Plus it doesn't make sense. At all. Is it even English?

What part of it can you not understand? Maybe i should put it in text speak for you or draw pictures with crayons.

BERBA · 10-01-2011 9:06pm

niallo27 wrote: »

Well the defended well, and without the help of webb would utd have scored, who knows

You need to blame Agger for leaving his leg out , not Webb:rolleyes:

10-01-2011 9:12pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

Maybe i should put it in text speak for you or draw pictures with crayons.

It's ok, my 3 year old translated for me

niallo27 · 10-01-2011 9:15pm

BERBA wrote: »

You need to blame Agger for leaving his leg out , not Webb:rolleyes:

Well I didn't expect you to agree with me to be honest:)

Ordinary man · 10-01-2011 9:16pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

It's ok, my 3 year old translated for me

I did wonder how you were managing to make so little sense in all your posts. Now it all adds up. Its a sad state of affairs when Berba is the voice of reason:rolleyes:

10-01-2011 9:19pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

I did wonder how you were managing to make so little sense in all your posts. Now it all adds up. Its a sad state of affairs when Berba is the voice of reason:rolleyes:

Touché

redzerdrog · 10-01-2011 9:23pm

jank wrote: »

Some knob living off his dads name.

he is actually coaching in the mls and in the middle of getting all his coaching badges

hardly living off dads name

its not as if kenny is gona send suso, coady and sterling over to him in some dodgy deal

niallo27 · 10-01-2011 9:26pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

I did wonder how you were managing to make so little sense in all your posts. Now it all adds up. Its a sad state of affairs when Berba is the voice of reason:rolleyes:

You should ask berba would he be ok with Webb being in charge next Sunday

DOC09UNAM · 10-01-2011 9:26pm

redzerdrog wrote: »

he is actually coaching in the mls and in the middle of getting all his coaching badges

hardly living off dads name

its not as if kenny is gona send suso, coady and sterling over to him in some dodgy deal

It's absolutely nothing to do with his dads name that he's able to get his coaching badges at all is It?

Liam O · 10-01-2011 9:28pm

RasTa wrote: »

lol at all the legal experts on this thread

was going to post something like this, except mine would have been LOLing at all the people who think that there is a right to free speech in Engerland...

BERBA · 10-01-2011 9:30pm

niallo27 wrote: »

You should ask berba would he be ok with Webb being in charge next Sunday

answer to that is a big NO as we have been on the receiving end of Mr Webb in a decision he got wrong at OT season before last when we were 2-0 up start of second half , gomes cleanly got a ball at the feet of ronaldo but hey the rest is history

where as you havent been on the end of any incorrect decision made coz webb got both decisions correct yday.

citytillidie · 10-01-2011 9:31pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

It's absolutely nothing to do with his dads name that he's able to get his coaching badges at all is It?

Nothing at all if you wanted to get your coaching badges there is nothing stopping you

DOC09UNAM · 10-01-2011 9:32pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Nothing at all if you wanted to get your coaching badges there is nothing stopping you

How much money does it cost? I'm sure he's paying for it all himself, and nothing to do with his dad at all at all.

niallo27 · 10-01-2011 9:36pm

BERBA wrote: »

answer to that is a big NO as we have been on the receiving end of Mr Webb in a decision he got wrong at OT season before last when we were 2-0 up start of second half , gomes cleanly got a ball at the feet of ronaldo but hey the rest is history

where as you havent been on the end of any incorrect decision made coz webb got both decisions correct yday.

Are you questioning mr webbs intergity, so he made a mistake before, are you saying he is biased, why don't you want him in charge

Ordinary man · 10-01-2011 9:37pm

niallo27 wrote: »

You should ask berba would he be ok with Webb being in charge next Sunday

I'd say he'd be delighted because there is absolutely no way webb can ref another game fairly. Every decision would be scrutinised to death. It won't matter if a united player is pole axed in the area, he can not give ammunition to the haters. Which referee would ye prefer in anfield? And please don't say Clattenberg

BERBA · 10-01-2011 9:38pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

I'd say he'd be delighted because there is absolutely no way webb can ref another game fairly. Every decision would be scrutinised to death. It won't matter if a united player is pole axed in the area, he can not give ammunition to the haters. Which referee would ye prefer in anfield? And please don't say Clattenberg

Clattenberg - Nani ....say no more

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 9:39pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

How much money does it cost? I'm sure he's paying for it all himself, and nothing to do with his dad at all at all.

Paul Dalglish was a professional footballer. I dont think the cost of a few courses would have troubled him

BERBA · 10-01-2011 9:40pm

tommyhaas wrote: »

Paul Dalglish was a professional footballer. I dont think the cost of a few courses would have troubled him

Owen Heary was at one stage as well with Bohs:rolleyes:

redzerdrog · 10-01-2011 9:40pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

How much money does it cost? I'm sure he's paying for it all himself, and nothing to do with his dad at all at all.

do you have any clue at all who paul dalglish is? by the sounds of things you have no idea

I can assure you his name has nothing to do with him getting coaching badges and i can also assure you kenny is not paying for it:rolleyes:

idiotic comment tbh you're usually better than that

rossie1977 · 10-01-2011 9:41pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

It must be great that liverpool supporters and players are able to blame the ref even though no matter who was reffing yesterday gerrard would have got red and united would have got at least 1 penalty. What excuse in next when the manager one and the referee one are used up? The pitch?

i have seen just as bad a tackle get yellow, howard webb again :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McOxoOSuX_8

:eek:

redzerdrog · 10-01-2011 9:42pm

BERBA wrote: »

Owen Heary was at one stage as well with Bohs:rolleyes:

you really are a plonker of the highest order the ****e you post day after day is ruining this place tbh

Liverpool's Ryan Babel faces FA probe for Twitter blast at Howard Webb

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