Clubfitting

Ben1977

Ordered full set, wedge FOC and a nice stand bag
Didn't haggle with them

big_drive

I ordered woods and irons. And was given a free 56 deg wedge

BOB81

Got fitted and bought new irons from them in December, had 3-wood reshafted and my 3 existing wedges loft/lie changed to match the irons. Got a few quid off the total price (6/7% probably) when I was collecting the clubs, definitely got the sense that they would be willing to do something for you on the overall price esp when you are spending so much

Avidgolfer

Was in foregolf today and ordered a set of jpx 825 pro's. 5400 spin rate with my old irons. 2200 spin with jpx and dynamic gold sl s 300 shafts. Extra 35 yards acording to the launch monitor. Should be ready in 10 days. Can't wait! P.s staff are very friendly and no pressure to buy. Nice to fell I wasn't listening to a sales pitch.

SnowDrifts

Avidgolfer wrote: »

Was in foregolf today and ordered a set of jpx 825 pro's. 5400 spin rate with my old irons. 2200 spin with jpx and dynamic gold sl s 300 shafts. Extra 35 yards acording to the launch monitor. Should be ready in 10 days. Can't wait! P.s staff are very friendly and no pressure to buy. Nice to fell I wasn't listening to a sales pitch.

Was there a noticeable difference in ball flight? Hitting my current irons too high and would be interested in irons that give me lower spin. How much for the jpx's?

Avidgolfer

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Was there a noticeable difference in ball flight? Hitting my current irons too high and would be interested in irons that give me lower spin. How much for the jpx's?

Was also hitting mine very high. Ball flight is a bit lower but more penetrating. 4 to sw were 1000 got them 9. Pricey but if I hit them on the course like I did on the range it will be worth it.

Finlay Harp

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Was there a noticeable difference in ball flight? Hitting my current irons too high and would be interested in irons that give me lower spin. How much for the jpx's?

If you dont mind my asking, what did you pay for these as its exactly what I am looking at at the minute?

alxmorgan

Avidgolfer wrote: »

Was in foregolf today and ordered a set of jpx 825 pro's. 5400 spin rate with my old irons. 2200 spin with jpx and dynamic gold sl s 300 shafts. Extra 35 yards acording to the launch monitor. Should be ready in 10 days. Can't wait! P.s staff are very friendly and no pressure to buy. Nice to fell I wasn't listening to a sales pitch.

I tried that spec for 4-PW on golfstoreurope and it came out at 671 delivered with a free mizuno hybrid of your choice.

So perhaps its missing GW and SW

Assuming around 100 per club that would make it 871 comparatively which I guess isn't bad

Avidgolfer

alxmorgan wrote: »

I tried that spec for 4-PW on golfstoreurope and it came out at 671 delivered with a free mizuno hybrid of your choice.

So perhaps its missing GW and SW

Assuming around 100 per club that would make it 871 comparatively which I guess isn't bad

Sounds like a good deal. Checked it out myself there is no sw. Foregolf are giving me a bladed jpx sw instead of a normal sw. With sw you'd prob be looking at 770 from golfstoreeurope. Still not bad price.

BMClaois

Just got fitted in Foregolf yesterday and I couldnt recommend the place enough. Super guys to deal with and helpful. Got fitted for the JPX Pros 825 with Nippon 950 shafts.

It was like golfporn in the fitting room!!!!

Ben1977

I have been meaning to add a comment over my last experience with Foregolf. Anyway my history with them has been very good upto resently.
Got fitted in July 2011 and bought full set from Driver to Putter. Was very happy, even thought the HC has not dropped it was more to do with family life and no practice. I can see the difference in the clubs.

In July 2012 I notice a strange sound from the driver. The ball was coming out as if I topped it, even hitting it out of the middle or top. Examined the face and found a crack at the top in the groove. When I thought about it the paint had fallen out of the groove after about 2 months.
Contacted Foregolf and they replaced it no problem. Just the service you expect. Was out at the Boards Society outing in September and on the 18 holes the shaft broke right at the joint of the club head and the club head came clean off.
All you can do is laugh when that happens. Went back to Foregolf, they replaced the shaft but not like for like as the original was a prototype???

So I had big goals for this year. Started in the driving range early in January. Hit a couple off drives and noticed the sound was different. Examined the face and found the paint out of the top groove again. Had a closer look and spotted a hair line crack.
Contacted Foregolf, and he is were the fun started.
I was told that the reason the face is cracking was that I wasn't hitting the ball out of the centre and my swing speed was very high. So I let them talk themselves into a corner for 15 minutes.
I gathered my thoughts and sent a nice e-mail, stating the amount I've used it. I can't understand why they are blaming my swing speed and off centre hits.

I got fitted by them, I'm a 13 handicapper, they know what swing speed I have? I don't know any 13 handicapper that hits the ball square out of the sweet spot. Infact I don't know many low handicappers that do either.

I don't understand it, they were blaming the fitting instead of the design of the club head. In the end I was told there would be an upcharge for a new head. I wasn't at all happen. I told them I'd take a second hand head at no cost to me. I wouldn't give them another penny. And I will never do business with them again.

PARlance

Just tee the ball a bit lower Ben

Very strange reasoning from them, shooting themselves in the foot.

Did you do any research into the driver itself, to see if it was a common fault?
Any point going to the manufacturer to apply pressure or even to resolve it themselves? (Not that you should have to do this)
Did they give you the second hand head in the end?

I was in the group behind you on the 18th that day, and the funniest thing wasn't that the head came flying off, but the fact, that none of us out drove you even with this happening
I don't even think I drove up to where your head had landed

ImDave

What make and model is the driver in question out of interest Ben?

Ben1977

ajcurry123 wrote: »

Just tee the ball a bit lower Ben

Very strange reasoning from them, shooting themselves in the foot.

Did you do any research into the driver itself, to see if it was a common fault?
Any point going to the manufacturer to apply pressure or even to resolve it themselves? (Not that you should have to do this)
Did they give you the second hand head in the end?

I was in the group behind you on the 18th that day, and the funniest thing wasn't that the head came flying off, but the fact, that none of us out drove you even with this happening
I don't even think I drove up to where your head had landed

Haven't contacted the manufacture yet. Have photos of both cracked faces. I did take the second hand head.

Drive for show!!!

Ben1977

ImDave wrote: »

What make and model is the driver in question out of interest Ben?

Srixon Z-star, did a bit of research but could find out nothing.

Mental Mickey

What are the contact details for these guys??

Mr. Larson

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What are the contact details for these guys??

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Foregolf+contact+details

Mental Mickey

Mr. Larson wrote: »

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Foregolf+contact+details

Lol thanks

Murphj7

Hello all. I got a new set from Fore 2 years ago. I have adjusted my swing and my driver is brutal to say the least the fairway to the right seems the be the location of the ball haha. Would they change the head of the club do you believe? Anyone get this done?

TheDoc

Site is blocked here in work.

I'd be tempted to go down and have them look at my irons. They have regular steel and I have a feeling I need something stiffer, I'd never associate my swing with regular shafts and I've noticeably had to slow down my swing to compensate.

Hearing from some quarters to forget getting shaft replacements, better off buying new irons :O Anyone got any idea what sorta money your talking with this crowd for shaft changes ( if required) ? You can pickup near brand new shafts for €50-70 quid a set online.

big_drive

You'd be looking at about €45 per club to have shafts changed

Murphj7

Its the head I want to change. Any idea how much that would cost?

big_drive

Not too sure how much it would be to purchase a set if heads, expensive enough I'd imagine

Osgoodisgood

Why don't you call them and ask?

uptheroyals

Avidgolfer wrote: »

Was in foregolf today and ordered a set of jpx 825 pro's. 5400 spin rate with my old irons. 2200 spin with jpx and dynamic gold sl s 300 shafts. Extra 35 yards acording to the launch monitor. Should be ready in 10 days. Can't wait! P.s staff are very friendly and no pressure to buy. Nice to fell I wasn't listening to a sales pitch.

Y would you want spin that low from your irons?? That's driver spin!! Irons you want between 5 and 6 thousand rpm??

TheDoc

big_drive wrote: »

You'd be looking at about €45 per club to have shafts changed

Will bin that idea so.

Someday

What sort of budget are you talking about with them for full 14 clubs ?

big_drive

Someday wrote: »

What sort of budget are you talking about with them for full 14 clubs ?

I'd say you'd bd looking at minimum of around €1,500

uberwolf

I think this is the thread to put this in.

Foregolf - my review.

After a couple of years of idly considering a foregolf visit, I finally made it down there courtesy of a christmas present.

I popped in about 20 minutes before my appointment, was warmly greeted and offered a bucket of balls to warm up in a covered range right beside them.

Once I finished killing it in the range one of the clubmakers (Don) popped out to me as my fitter was grabbing a well earned bite to eat. Don was keen to impart that their ethos was not to try and sell me a club that would not improve my game. Once a recommendation is made they make a club with zero tolerance, compared to the typical mass manufacturer who have tolerance level for error. The example provided was of loft, where manufacturers have a two degree tolerance for loft. This has the consequence of allowing you test a 9 degree driver which is actually 11 degrees. And when you buy it, it could be 7 degrees. This was an extreme example of the potential range, but the point was made.

Popped into the testing bay. David explained his background and the basic theory that an individuals biomechanics resulted in a go to swing shape. Better to try and faciltate that swing shape than to try and force a swing that fundamentally didn't suit you. At least that's what I understood from it. I have to admit that the science of shafts and weights and etc really isn't my forte.

David took my 6 iron and measured it to set the base for the rest of the test.

Impact tape popped onto the face of the club and away we went. After the anticipated few duffs a pattern of strikes started to develop. In my case this was below centre and to the toe. This indicated that the clubs were to short for me. I have previously been custom fit and the clubs at that point were meant to have been adjusted to reflect this requirement. Foregolfs facilities allowed them produce a number of different combinations of head weight, shaft length and flex types to try and dial in what worked for me with the benefit of Davids eye and experience and what the Trackman system was telling him. The results were striking. Dispersion tightened, launch angle improved, carry improved. Crucially from my perspective David was able to tell me what sort of bad shots I was likely experiencing on course and the insight was spot on.

My previous custom fit had been the use of impact tape on my then clubs and an educated guess as to what would work. Foregolf got through that point by actually putting the final club in my hand and tellingly it took a few iterations. The assessment was that the original custom fit had been in the right direction but had not gone far enough. This has been compounded by the tolerance levels that off the shelf clubs allowed. The additional length in the clubs had in all likelihood undermined the additional stiffness that I was meant to have. The longer you make a shaft the stiffer you need to make it (when you allow for all other variables) and this isn't done by the main manufacturers.

Once the 6 iron had been finished with it was on to the hybrid, 3 wood and finally driver. In each instance a few variations were tested and in each instance the finished product resulted in better good shots and better bad shots.

Before I started with the 3 wood I told David that the club had been a bit of an enigma, particularly off the deck. Before I hit it I was told that changes in hybrid and 6 iron would see me hit my existing 3 wood much better. By chance the 3 wood was the closest to what my fit should have been, but by swinging the way my other clubs required I hadn't been able to hit it properly. EDIT: I was hitting the 3 wood very well, and whilst an upgrade was possible it was bottom of the list of priorities and I was effectively told not to bother for the time being.

The final result was a recommendation in respect of all my clubs (using the existing heads in nearly every instance), a ranking of priority in which these recommendations should be addressed and absolutely no pressure to actually commit to any of these upgrades.

You might be able to tell I was very impressed and am looking forward to receipt of my new improved clubs.

Tin_Cup

Would second that review from uberwolf. I met with the guys before Christmas and just have the clubs back in the bag.

No pressure at all to buy and the fitting was an awesome experience on its own.

Was also amazed when they checked my own custom ordered clubs how out the lofts and lies where. Basically had two 6 irons in the bag and some upright and flat!

Even if you don't visit ForeGolf well worth having your local pro check your loft and lies before the season kicks off

benny79

@uberwolf Am I correct in saying you just got ne wshafts and lies changed no new clubs! how much did it set you back and would you be a low handicapper? Im currently off 20 and wondering wud it be worth my while or should I improve a bit first..

GreeBo

uberwolf wrote: »

Better to try and faciltate that swing shape than to try and force a swing that fundamentally didn't suit you.

Before I hit it I was told that changes in hybrid and 6 iron would see me hit my existing 3 wood much better. By chance the 3 wood was the closest to what my fit should have been, but by swinging the way my other clubs required I hadn't been able to hit it properly.

Hey, interesting read alright.
I would definitely agree about getting lofts and lies confirmed regularly, especially if you have forged clubs and hit off range mats.

The bits I have quoted above are the bits about custom fitting for amateurs that I have a problem accepting.

I would argue that your swing changes to the new clubs in the same way as it did to the old clubs. After all, if you hit enough shots with anything your body will naturally respond to the feedback and make adjustments in your swing, thats how we play all sports.

Would you be at all concerned that were you to go back next week they would see something different in your swing.

Again, an interesting read, but wouldn't change my opinion on getting custom fit. My body shape is consistent with standard lengths, my swing speed is consistent with stiff shafts and my swing is inconsistent enough that standard clubs will suit the vast majority of the time imo.

uberwolf

benny79 wrote: »

@uberwolf Am I correct in saying you just got ne wshafts and lies changed no new clubs! how much did it set you back and would you be a low handicapper? Im currently off 20 and wondering wud it be worth my while or should I improve a bit first..

the prescription was new shafts on the irons, 3 wood, driver. New hybrid and two new wedges (the wedges being replaces are ancient). The weight in the hybrid was in the wrong place for me.

My irons are reasonably new and are good ones. Because of this foregolf can work with them to make adjustments. older or cheaper irons might not be able to stand up to this.

cost varied depending on the shaft and club that you were recommended. i would budget 40-55 for iron shafts (per club). I didn't have to buy anything on the spot and they are perfectly happy with a piecemeal approach.

I'm an 18 handicapper.

DuckSlice

GreeBo wrote: »

Hey, interesting read alright.
I would definitely agree about getting lofts and lies confirmed regularly, especially if you have forged clubs and hit off range mats.

The bits I have quoted above are the bits about custom fitting for amateurs that I have a problem accepting.

I would argue that your swing changes to the new clubs in the same way as it did to the old clubs. After all, if you hit enough shots with anything your body will naturally respond to the feedback and make adjustments in your swing, thats how we play all sports.

Would you be at all concerned that were you to go back next week they would see something different in your swing.

Again, an interesting read, but wouldn't change my opinion on getting custom fit. My body shape is consistent with standard lengths, my swing speed is consistent with stiff shafts and my swing is inconsistent enough that standard clubs will suit the vast majority of the time imo.

You make some good points, but when I was fitted the changes were immediate and I didn't feel like I was swinging any differently. Most of my iron shots were high off the face and to the toe on the facetape. Gave me the new iron. Jpx 825 pro. Lighter stiffer shaft and straight away I was hitting them out the middle. Them he made some other changes and it was even better I couldn't believe it. I'm 6ft 2 so need longer clubs anyway so I had nothing to lose by going there and my irons were 13 years old and I just didn't like them anymore and distances were very inconsistent with them.

I had a friend with me and he got fitted too. And after some messing with irons they said his irons were fine and they couldn't really improve them. They won't sell you something that isn't better which I though was brilliant.

I just received my driver, 3 wood and hybrid today and can't wait to go hit them

GreeBo

etxp wrote: »

You make some good points, but when I was fitted the changes were immediate and I didn't feel like I was swinging any differently. Most of my iron shots were high off the face and to the toe on the facetape. Gave me the new iron. Jpx 825 pro. Lighter stiffer shaft and straight away I was hitting them out the middle.

Yeah but I guess if Im hitting them all off the toe and they move the clubs so that the middle is where the toe was, Im immediately going to be hitting them better.
Whereas maybe I was just standing too far from the ball that day?

Possibly a bad example, but you know what I mean?

Clubs are too upright for me, well am I 100% sure that I am standing in the same way I normally do, or the correct way? Maybe Im slouching today for some reason, etc, etc...

Obviously at 6'2" you need a longer shaft and more upright clubs, but I would have thought that doesnt require a specialist fitting.

DuckSlice

GreeBo wrote: »

Yeah but I guess if Im hitting them all off the toe and they move the clubs so that the middle is where the toe was, Im immediately going to be hitting them better.
Whereas maybe I was just standing too far from the ball that day?

Possibly a bad example, but you know what I mean?

Clubs are too upright for me, well am I 100% sure that I am standing in the same way I normally do, or the correct way? Maybe Im slouching today for some reason, etc, etc...

Obviously at 6'2" you need a longer shaft and more upright clubs, but I would have thought that doesnt require a specialist fitting.

I get what ya mean but, that's not what they did for me anyway. I hit about 12/15 shots with my own six iron which was an inch longer and 2 degrees upright anyway. The lie was perfect on them and length want far off too. They gave me a club relatively same length exact same lie and it was instantly better, longer and more accurate, the latter is what I was mainly interested in.

I probably didn't need specialist fitting but it's what I wanted. I will just have to wait and see if what I was doing in the fitting will translate on to the course

uberwolf

GreeBo wrote: »

Would you be at all concerned that were you to go back next week they would see something different in your swing.

Again, an interesting read, but wouldn't change my opinion on getting custom fit. My body shape is consistent with standard lengths, my swing speed is consistent with stiff shafts and my swing is inconsistent enough that standard clubs will suit the vast majority of the time imo.

I have a buddy who plays with clubs which are far too short for him. He lurches right over them. His swing looks right and he maintains the bent back through the swing. Plays to 7. So yeah, if you have the talent then the club isn't the limiting factor beyond a certain point.

My first two questions when I went in were, (i) as an aspirational 18 handicapper I clearly have an inconsistent swing and (ii) my ideal swing will presumably change as I come in and refine things. Their view seemed to be yeah, as you improve you may want your clubs to do slightly different things and a refit may well be warranted, but your swing inconsistency is normally a result of something. In my instance with a vulnerable lower back and at well over 6 foot stooping into near normal length clubs left me very likely to stand up through the swing and in an effort to get back into place I come over the top. This has always been my problem.

But length and lie are only a small part of it. The shaft mechanics appeared to be their real forte - dialling in head weight, shaft weight and shaft stiffness to get the head back into the right place.

Following on from that their club building means that you actually get what you were meant to, rather than being frustrated by what you think is the right club not working.

I'd be very curious to return every week and see what the results were. I am over simplifying their message and can't pretend to have fully understood it. I was persuaded by the results in front of me, combined with what they were telling me were the root causes of the bad shots I saw in front of me all summer (the same bad shots that my pro and I have been working on).

levitronix

Well just back from my visit at foregolf.
Really impressed with the setup the variety for differnent setups you get to try in such a little space of time.
For me i seen instant improvments in my 3 wood and hybrid as soon as we found the shaft after one hit with both clubs i knew it was the shaft for me.
The recommendation is there for the same shaft in the driver but the numbers i was getting with my old head/shaft combo were hard to beat, and also they hadnt got the shaft to try in the driver and also(hit way to many balls) got very tried bucket and half of balls later

After the fitting i got my spec sheet which i thought i wouldnt get, but i ordered the new 3 wood and hybrid shafts on the spot, so im going to hold out and wait for bit on the driver and irons, will see how the new shafts play for next few weeks.

Only negative i would say about foregolf is 1 hour is not enough time, i could of spent a lot longer and took more time and went through the clubs a lot slower talking more about the feed back.

DuckSlice

Just to say that the spec sheet you have isn't the full spec. It doesn't tell you swing weights, lie and length. Glad you got on well. I got my driver 3 wood and hybrid last week. Hitting them nicely now.

Enjoy the new clubs when you get them

levitronix

I know that but i thought they gave you nothing, one thing i did check up on when i got back to work how good price they where doing for the shafts

levitronix

lie and lenght are all standard for me, we didnt talk about swing weight

DuckSlice

levitronix wrote: »

lie and lenght are all standard for me, we didnt talk about swing weight

He won't have mentioned swing weight but they have various heads of the same club all different weights. Like the mizuno have different colour writing on them. Mine were yellow which I think were d3

TrapperChamonix

etxp wrote: »

You make some good points, but when I was fitted the changes were immediate and I didn't feel like I was swinging any differently. Most of my iron shots were high off the face and to the toe on the facetape. Gave me the new iron. Jpx 825 pro. Lighter stiffer shaft and straight away I was hitting them out the middle. Them he made some other changes and it was even better I couldn't believe it. I'm 6ft 2 so need longer clubs anyway so I had nothing to lose by going there and my irons were 13 years old and I just didn't like them anymore and distances were very inconsistent with them.

I had a friend with me and he got fitted too. And after some messing with irons they said his irons were fine and they couldn't really improve them. They won't sell you something that isn't better which I though was brilliant.

I just received my driver, 3 wood and hybrid today and can't wait to go hit them

Very interesting topic. A couple of things I'm interested in;

- What was your previous Iron set? JPX 825 and 825 Pro are very hittable and forgiving clubs, so I'm interested in the comparison to your old clubs.
- What clubs did you end up getting and how much did they cost?


I have to admit that come at the Custom Fitting as a skeptic. I've always had an underlying feeling that the greatest benefit to custom fitting is for the manufacturers / retailers, in that it means you buy "list price golf clubs". I would be somewhat sceptical of the statement that "manufacturers have a 2 degree tolerance". Perhaps I am very naive (quite possible). I have no doubt that I you were to take 2 clubs from different manufacturers with the same degree stamped on the sole, they might be different as they may measure the angle is different ways ( as the sole and face are not flat) but I just don't believe that 2 clubs from Ping, TM, Nike, etc. have that much variability. But it is a good way to promote custom manufacturing.
Perhaps my skepticism is born out of my meanness. The ultimate test will be how your game (handicap) improves in the coming year. If you end up with a set of clubs you like, then that's the only thing that matters.

Milkers

levitronix wrote: »

lie and lenght are all standard for me, we didnt talk about swing weight

Seems extremely odd to me to get fit for clubs and for swing weight to never come up in the conversation?

DuckSlice

TrapperChamonix wrote: »

Very interesting topic. A couple of things I'm interested in;

- What was your previous Iron set? JPX 825 and 825 Pro are very hittable and forgiving clubs, so I'm interested in the comparison to your old clubs.
- What clubs did you end up getting and how much did they cost?


I have to admit that come at the Custom Fitting as a skeptic. I've always had an underlying feeling that the greatest benefit to custom fitting is for the manufacturers / retailers, in that it means you buy "list price golf clubs". I would be somewhat sceptical of the statement that "manufacturers have a 2 degree tolerance". Perhaps I am very naive (quite possible). I have no doubt that I you were to take 2 clubs from different manufacturers with the same degree stamped on the sole, they might be different as they may measure the angle is different ways ( as the sole and face are not flat) but I just don't believe that 2 clubs from Ping, TM, Nike, etc. have that much variability. But it is a good way to promote custom manufacturing.
Perhaps my skepticism is born out of my meanness. The ultimate test will be how your game (handicap) improves in the coming year. If you end up with a set of clubs you like, then that's the only thing that matters.

I had a set of Wilson fatshafts which are a forgiving club anyway but my distances were very inconsistent with them. The lofts were probably al wrong after 13 years. You may not be a believer in custom fitting and some people think the ball trackers are all a scam but something that can't lie is the facetape. I hit probably 5/6 shots with the new club and all of them straight out of the middle. My old clubs were too heavy. Heavy head l, heavy shaft and a big heavy grip. I gained 18 yards on my 6 iron and was far more accurate! I haven't bought the irons yet. I got a Cobra amp cell pro driver, RBZ stage 2 3 wood, and a Wilson tour M3 hybrid.

TrapperChamonix

etxp wrote: »

I had a set of Wilson fatshafts which are a forgiving club anyway but my distances were very inconsistent with them. The lofts were probably al wrong after 13 years. You may not be a believer in custom fitting and some people think the ball trackers are all a scam but something that can't lie is the facetape. I hit probably 5/6 shots with the new club and all of them straight out of the middle. My old clubs were too heavy. Heavy head l, heavy shaft and a big heavy grip. I gained 18 yards on my 6 iron and was far more accurate! I haven't bought the irons yet. I got a Cobra amp cell pro driver, RBZ stage 2 3 wood, and a Wilson tour M3 hybrid.

Fair enough on the face tape and consistency of strike, but I would suggest you need to view for more than 5 / 6 shots.
I doubt yards gained is nothing to do with custom fitting but rather the changing lofts on the clubs. To give you a personal example, the loft on my TM RAC clubs from 2002 was 5i - 27* and 6i - 31*. The JPX *825 I bought in Sept 2013 had lofts as follows 6i - 28* and 7i - 32*. Assuming that your Fatshafts were the same as my TM's, then the distance you gained is due to the fact you are comparing a 31* lofted Wilson to a 28* Mizuno. Or to put it another way you are comparing a 6 iron to a 5 iron (in 2002 currency).
Personally I loved the 825 Pro, but actually liked the 825's better and bought them. The forgiveness / accuracy in both of these clubs is terrific and I would guess immeasurably better than your fat shafts as I believe the current crop of forgiving irons (JPX and AP1's especially) really are a step change from what went before.

levitronix

Milkers wrote: »

Seems extremely odd to me to get fit for clubs and for swing weight to never come up in the conversation?

some clubs felt heavy and long but swing weight not mentioned, anyway theres no way id notice 2grams either way in a club which which would be the amounts added or reduced to affect swing weight

DuckSlice

TrapperChamonix wrote: »

Fair enough on the face tape and consistency of strike, but I would suggest you need to view for more than 5 / 6 shots.
I doubt yards gained is nothing to do with custom fitting but rather the changing lofts on the clubs. To give you a personal example, the loft on my TM RAC clubs from 2002 was 5i - 27* and 6i - 31*. The JPX *825 I bought in Sept 2013 had lofts as follows 6i - 28* and 7i - 32*. Assuming that your Fatshafts were the same as my TM's, then the distance you gained is due to the fact you are comparing a 31* lofted Wilson to a 28* Mizuno. Or to put it another way you are comparing a 6 iron to a 5 iron (in 2002 currency).
Personally I loved the 825 Pro, but actually liked the 825's better and bought them. The forgiveness / accuracy in both of these clubs is terrific and I would guess immeasurably better than your fat shafts as I believe the current crop of forgiving irons (JPX and AP1's especially) really are a step change from what went before.

I know what your saying and this is something I was well aware of when I was getting fitted. My 6 iron is 29* loft, jpx 825 pro 6 iron is 29* loft. Did you ever think the extra distance is something to do with the custom fit shaft? Or the advances in technology over the last 13 or so years I have the clubs??

TrapperChamonix

etxp wrote: »

I know what your saying and this is something I was well aware of when I was getting fitted. My 6 iron is 29* loft, jpx 825 pro 6 iron is 29* loft. Did you ever think the extra distance is something to do with the custom fit shaft? Or the advances in technology over the last 13 or so years I have the clubs??

Fair Enough.

big_drive

When I was fitted by Foregolf my Pitching wedge loft was changed from 44* to 48* so I should have lost distance you'd think. but I actually gained approx 10/12 yards in distance so it's not just about loft on club. More than anything it's the shaft. If you're hitting it out of middle club face more often distance will improve.