The difference between "t" and "th", is it so difficult????

summerskin

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????


and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

VERYinterested

summerskin wrote: »

So far to day i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

When did 'today' become two words?

summerskin

Caught that myself too, but thanks.

summerskin

VERYinterested wrote: »

When did 'today' become two words?

Since I became a terrible typist.

Better "thread carefully" OP or there'll be people posting about what they were "thought" in school

First Post

Always remember to use correct grammar and spelling when correcting other people. Otherwise you end up looking like a tool.

Cat Melodeon

Not heigth, height.

And they're pronounced Tailand and Tems, not Thailand and Thames.

I'm sure this 'tread' has been done already...

TheZohanS

summerskin wrote: »

and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

I see...

Johro

Ticko's..

topper75

Correct and it is pronounced Toomond Park rugby commentators. Get it right.

I heard the writer Ken Bruin on the radio this morning referring to Rothweiler dogs. After all the care he took to pronounce the 'w' as a 'v'. Shame!

GTE

The effort of going to the other thread was not worth it.

Seloth

Thrilled and Fate I can understand....but throat,its a bit foolish to get that wrong and I'm terrible at spelling.

Dravokivich

So... OP doesn't really like accents then... jaysus... he'd hate talking with me...

Irish_wolf

I never even knew we Oirish had this problem until I went on a trip to amsterdam earlier in the year. While walking around with a dutch friend of mine I was saying I 'tink' so or we should do 'dis' or 'dat'. It was only later in the pub when he said it took him a while to figure out what the hell I was saying.

Made me very aware of it every time I said it afterwards...

Condatis

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????
and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

It's now worse than reading your post; replete as it is with errors of style, grammar and typography.

Correct usage of English is as important in the written form as in the spoken form.

Johro

Possibly the difficulty comes from not pronouncing the 'h' in 'th'. I was asked if I had some 'tin plywood' today.

pickarooney

Irish_wolf wrote: »

I never even knew we Oirish had this problem until I went on a trip to amsterdam earlier in the year. While walking around with a dutch friend of mine I was saying I 'tink' so or we should do 'dis' or 'dat'. It was only later in the pub when he said it took him a while to figure out what the hell I was saying.

Made me very aware of it every time I said it afterwards...

Weird, Dutch people generally pronounce 'th' as 'd'.

Condatis wrote: »

It's now worse than reading your post; replete as it is with errors of style, grammar and typography.

Correct usage of English is as important in the written form as in the spoken form.

Whereas it wasn't previously? Semi-colon fail for you, too.

Cat Melodeon

Condatis wrote: »

It's now worse than reading your post; replete as it is with errors of style, grammar and typography.

Correct usage of English is as important in the written form as in the spoken form.

Incorrect usage seems to be contagious...

Anyone

It's bad english, but I heard worser.

Irish_wolf

pickarooney wrote: »

Weird, Dutch people generally pronounce 'th' as 'd'.

Well he was half dutch half german so I dunno. Most of the dutch people I talked to had the whole I fink so thing going. Perhaps they were from a different part of the Netherlands presumably their accents are as varied there as they are across Ireland.

Johro

pickarooney wrote: »

Weird, Dutch people generally pronounce 'th' as 'd'.



Whereas it wasn't previously? Semi-colon fail for you, too.

No we don't. 'Th' is pronounced 't', the name Theo is pronounced Teo, or 'thee' (tea) is pronounced 'tee'. (tay)
F#ck it, we're Irish:rolleyes:

Johro

Irish_wolf wrote: »

Well he was half dutch half german

:eek::eek::eek::eek: f#ckin traitor:p

pickarooney

Johro wrote: »

No we don't. 'Th' is pronounced 't', the name Theo is pronounced Teo, or 'thee' (tea) is pronounced 'tee'. (tay)
F#ck it, we're Irish:rolleyes:

There are two 'th' sounds in English - the thing one and the then one. It's fairly obvous I'm referring to the latter.

Johro

Irish_wolf wrote: »

Well he was half dutch half german so I dunno. Most of the dutch people I talked to had the whole I fink so thing going. Perhaps they were from a different part of the Netherlands presumably their accents are as varied there as they are across Ireland.

I fink yor fool of doodoo.

Johro

pickarooney wrote: »

There are two 'th' sounds in English - the thing one and the then one. It's fairly obvous I'm referring to the latter.

Fair enough, looked like you were referring to Dutch words beginning with 'th'. Which would be pronounced 't'. My bad. I'll take the fifty lashes and carry on regardless. We're hardy.

mcauley

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

Reminded me of this which I came across recently on the aul Facebook!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Brgp2qd2At8/TSszxxfH9BI/AAAAAAAABEk/z-zRvyKKAFg/trout%20infection.JPG

Oh_Noes

Today I saw an English guy on TV pronounce the word "car" and he didn't pronounce the R!

It sounded like he said "caw" !

I was shocked and outraged.

ejmaztec

In before the turty-tree.

Fratton Fred

Johro wrote: »

No we don't. 'Th' is pronounced 't', the name Theo is pronounced Teo, or 'thee' (tea) is pronounced 'tee'. (tay)
F#ck it, we're Irish:rolleyes:

I'm from the south east of England, so I am as likely to say "fanks" or "free" as an Irishman is to say "tanks" or "tree", but that is just an accent thing. Not knowing the difference between taught and thought is tickness, or is it fickness.

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I'm from the south east of England, so I am as likely to say "fanks" or "free" as an Irishman is to say "tanks" or "tree", but that is just an accent thing. Not knowing the difference between taught and thought is tickness, or is it fickness.

Sarfeast?

Alias G

People in from a variety of geographical locations will have a variety of accents....get over it.

Condatis

Originally Posted by Condatis
It's now worse than reading your post; replete as it is with errors of style, grammar and typography.

Correct usage of English is as important in the written form as in the spoken form

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

Incorrect usage seems to be contagious...

That's the 'Dort' enunciation don't you now.

Ruu_Old

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????


and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

I'll give you a good trashing! :mad:

Fratton Fred

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarfeast?

Near Lahndan, innit.

GTE

ejmaztec wrote: »

In before the turty-tree.

and a turd.

Johro

Oh_Noes wrote: »

Today I saw an English guy on TV pronounce the word "car" and he didn't pronounce the R!

It sounded like he said "caw" !

I was shocked and outraged.

Cockneys don't pronounce their l's or r's, they seem to become w's, as in milk becoming 'miwk' , talk becoming tawk and things like footbaww, Miwwwaww (Millwall:D), gehw (girl), and 'get out'a da facking cahw!'
Strangely, 'the law' seems to involve an 'r'.:rolleyes:

Johro

bbk wrote: »

and a turd.

Richard the Third or Dick the Sh!t?:D

Johro

I taut i taw a puddytat..

Wibbs

It's both from dropping aitches and the fear of dropping them and appearing "common". Dis and dat in the former case and Height(h) and throat(h) in the latter. Their and they're etc is common enough around here. One that really grinds my gears and seems to be a regular one on Boards is "then" instead of "than". IE "I'm cooler then you". What's weird about that one is it's usually smart people doing it.

pickarooney

Johro wrote: »

Fair enough, looked like you were referring to Dutch words beginning with 'th'. Which would be pronounced 't'. My bad. I'll take the fifty lashes and carry on regardless. We're hardy.

Keihard, jongen.

Johro

Feck, I passed the tousand mark in posts and never even noticed til now:eek:
Tick or what? :rolleyes:

Johro

pickarooney wrote: »

Keihard, jongen.

You know it.;)

Johro

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarfeast?

Awwigh'?:D

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Near Lahndan, innit.

Ear, I fought you wuz fwum portsmuff?

mike65

Next on After Hours - the "I took/I brought" controversy.

BengaLover

Ray Darcy is always doing that.. I cant bear to listen to him..

Fratton Fred

ejmaztec wrote: »

Ear, I fought you wuz fwum portsmuff?

I was born in Portsmuff mush, grew up near slough or sluff as we call it.

VERYinterested

VERYinterested wrote: »

When did 'today' become two words?

I think at one stage they were spelled to-day and to-morrow.

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I was born in Portsmuff mush, grew up near slough or sluff as we call it.

That's where the Brummies go for dancing lessons "slough, slough, quick quick, slough"

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

Really? I would have thought that there are less examples of a hard T than a soft T(th). Irish speakers help me out here.