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Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Paddy Wallace was sensational tonight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Nobody from Italy complaining about a Belfast native reffing an Ulster game.
    Take note Welsh fans.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Marshall with a jammy beauty!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭Taco Corp


    JustinDee wrote: »
    Nobody from Italy complaining about a Belfast native reffing an Ulster game.
    Take note Welsh fans.
    what did the welsh do?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Ulster's momentum going into next week could be massive.

    Court's first TH scrum....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Surley wrote: »
    what did the welsh do?
    Bitched about Alain Rolland's father being French during RWC and accused him of being tilted.

    Was just a quip. No worries.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    iHumph butchered that.

    If he steps outside and pops that pass back in Muller gets in the corner 8/10 times there.

    Massive cheer for Court leaving the pitch. Good to see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Macklin and McAlister deliver an excellent platform in the scrum allows Wannenberg to score a try

    EDIT 45-7


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Wanneburg gets the try anyhow.

    Macklin and McAllister holding the scrum together better than any other "prop kids" we've seen this season in Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Badger won't stop going on about next week i bPáirc Thuamhain.

    Great attack from Ulster, it's no wonder they've scored so many tries this season.

    In saying that though, Aironi have offered nothing apart from the setpiece move for their try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭chippers


    Marshall is looking very sharp


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Wanneburg gets the try anyhow.

    Macklin and McAllister holding the scrum together better than any other "prop kids" we've seen this season in Ireland.

    Imagine how good MacAllister and Macklin will be when they are old enough to shave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    That Italian blindside was pulling away at macklins bind and he still managed to destroy perugini.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Marshall has been pure class, he is gonna cause trouble next week.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Marshall and Tuohy in last 60 seconds showed why DK and his conservative ****e hurts everything to do with Irish rugby

    When it doesn't work, its so frustrating to watch, but st least it's positive.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Credit to Aironi for giving it a go after the 80th minute.

    That's class


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Full time 45-7


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Enough Sweeper


    Wallace gets MotM deservedly.

    Can only beat whats in front of you and Ulster did it impressively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    If only Paddy Wallace was Irish...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    If only Paddy Wallace was Irish...

    Nah! Apparently he can't run, tackle, pass, kick or score tries. He should have gone to Leinster or Munster where all those problems would have disappeared.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    Looking forward to the midfield battle next weekend, Wallace looks easily the best 12 in Ireland atm, from what I saw he was excellent last week too.

    Wannenburg was my MOTM, Macklin has impressed me whenever I've seen him, looks very powerful, still learning so will probably take his fair share of beatings but in the long term looks a good prospect. Hopefully he gets a nice bit of gametime next season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Nah! Apparently he can't run, tackle, pass, kick or score tries. He should have gone to Leinster or Munster where all those problems would have disappeared.
    To be fair, he did get a run in the side under Kidney and finished every game/was taken off looking like he'd gone a dozen rounds with George Foreman. Aironi probably aren't the most testing side to play against.

    It's sad that Marshall didn't get his chance against England though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Nah! Apparently he can't run, tackle, pass, kick or score tries. He should have gone to Leinster or Munster where all those problems would have disappeared.
    To be fair, he did get a run in the side under Kidney and finished every game/was taken off looking like he'd gone a dozen rounds with George Foreman. Aironi probably aren't the most testing side to play against.

    It's sad that Marshall didn't get his chance against England though.
    You are thinking if his facial injury against France. If his skin was made of titanium, like... other Irish centers, I'm sure he would have been able to stop himself being cut shreds.

    He is a great defender, and some people suggest he's poor. It's nuts. He's just light so people jump to the criticism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    You are thinking if his facial injury against France. If his skin was made of titanium, like... other Irish centers, I'm sure he would have been able to stop himself being cut shreds.

    He is a great defender, and some people suggest he's poor. It's nuts. He's just light so people jump to the criticism.

    Whatever peoples opinion on his defence its a moot point anyway as none of the other contenders for the jersey excel in that area either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Balanced analysis, good commentary and an anchorman that actually knows a thing or two about his sport...

    Ryan Constable is the agent of a lot of the Ulster players.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    shuffol wrote: »
    Whatever peoples opinion on his defence its a moot point anyway as none of the other contenders for the jersey excel in that area either.
    Right, but then he's up against Earls, Fitz and company who are - what - 8 or 9 years younger? And Fitz's defence is pretty good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    Right, but then he's up against Earls, Fitz and company who are - what - 8 or 9 years younger? And Fitz's defence is pretty good.

    He's not up against Earls for the 12 jersey and as much as I'd love it to be the case Fitz wont be considered there either. I was referring to Mcfadden and D'arcy specifically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    shuffol wrote: »
    Whatever peoples opinion on his defence its a moot point anyway as none of the other contenders for the jersey excel in that area either.
    It annoys me because he's a very strong defender for the type of player he is. Certainly a country mile better than a certain out half who is currently playing at above international standard. And comparing him with McFadden as a 12 is laughable for me, he is miles closer to international standard.

    Anyway the international period is over. I don't even want to think about the disgraceful state of our international selection policy any more. I'm happy that we'll see lots of great Irish rugby players in the heineken cup next weekend, go us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    The Aironi try was very soft and Ulster looked a little bit loose in defence at times but it was a comprehensive victory.

    Marshall looked brilliant, that quick tap and kick in behind would of been one of the try's of the season if he'd scored it. It was probably a good game before the Munster match as well, to hockey a team of the pitch, particularly if Munster lose tomorrow, it could be great for Ulster's confidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    It annoys me because he's a very strong defender for the type of player he is. Certainly a country mile better than a certain out half who is currently playing at above international standard. And comparing him with McFadden as a 12 is laughable for me, he is miles closer to international standard.

    Anyway the international period is over. I don't even want to think about the disgraceful state of our international selection policy any more. I'm happy that we'll see lots of great Irish rugby players in the heineken cup next weekend, go us.

    The international situation just adds spice to next weeks game, there's a lot of Ulster players who I'm sure would feel they've a point to prove. Tuohy, Henry, Marshall, Wallace, Cave. I'd almost like to see Ulster win just so the media might actually sit up and take notice of some of the players playing up there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    shuffol wrote: »
    He's not up against Earls for the 12 jersey and as much as I'd love it to be the case Fitz wont be considered there either. I was referring to Mcfadden and D'arcy specifically.
    McFadden's defence is better than Wallace's, and D'Arcy's defence, until recently, was excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    McFadden's defence is better than Wallace's, and D'Arcy's defence, until recently, was excellent.

    McFadden is the weakest defender of the lot. He's had trouble with his defense for a while now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    McFadden is the weakest defender of the lot. He's had trouble with his defense for a while now.
    Ok, without getting into a he said/she said, we'll have to agree to differ on that one.

    Anyway, Ulster look in good shape going into the quarter final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    To be fair, he did get a run in the side under Kidney and finished every game/was taken off looking like he'd gone a dozen rounds with George Foreman. Aironi probably aren't the most testing side to play against.

    It's sad that Marshall didn't get his chance against England though.


    I was being a bit mischievous. He is a better player than many give credit but while having different skills, Paddy was not as good at 12 as Darcy in his prime. He is far superior now but he is 32.
    Ryan Constable is the agent of a lot of the Ulster players.

    True but that doesn't stop him being an intelligent, literate, personable and knowledgeable ex-International player of considerable talent.....albeit naturally leaning towards his ex-team mates whom he served very well as a player. A bit like Frankie......Lenihan
    ....feck it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Ferris may now be a doubt for the Munster game according to the Ulster web site and McLaughlin. Ankle ligament damage. Cave also went off and Ulster ended with only 14 players on the pitch. B%gger it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    McFadden is the weakest defender of the lot. He's had trouble with his defense for a while now.
    He is a technically excellent defender (good tackler) who often gets caught out of position when played out of position (13)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Ferris may now be a doubt for the Munster game according to the Ulster web site and McLaughlin. Cave also went off and Ulster ended with only 14 players on the pitch. B%gger it

    Paddy Wallace said it hurt his ankle and that's why he came off. So at least it's not his knees anyway!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    He is a technically excellent defender (good tackler) who often gets caught out of position when played out of position (13)

    13 is his position though, or it used to be before he broke through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Ferris may now be a doubt for the Munster game according to the Ulster web site and McLaughlin. Cave also went off and Ulster ended with only 14 players on the pitch. B%gger it

    I don't like seeing injuries to anyone (especially someone like Ferris with a proven injury record :eek::() but if he misses the game that would be a huge blow to Ulster...might even things up a bit if POC and Ryan happen to miss the game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    He is a technically excellent defender (good tackler) who often gets caught out of position when played out of position (13)

    No he isn't. He is a technically poor tackler. That is his fault. He has so many tackles broken. That miss on North had nothing to do with positioning, it was all poor technique. Footwork, body poisitoning, all wrong. He is a poor defender, fairly simply. He was moved to 12 from 13 because he was getting beaten in defense and you can support that sort of player at 12 (and not at 13 at all). That's why he doesn't play 13 any moire, nothing to do with his positioning...

    In fact his positioning is fine at 13. Not a problem. He was very good positionally against Wales as far as I'm concerned.

    I think McFadden is a very good player by the way. I think he's a great attacking 12, but I have my doubts over whether he's the long-term answer for Ireland or even Leinster at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Uh oh



    richard mulligan (@r_mulligan1)
    3/30/12 9:42 PM
    @UlsterRugby coach Brian McLaughlin is 'genuinely worried' about Ferris ankle injury. Full story in @News_Letter sport on Saturday


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Uh oh



    richard mulligan (@r_mulligan1)
    3/30/12 9:42 PM
    @UlsterRugby coach Brian McLaughlin is 'genuinely worried' about Ferris ankle injury. Full story in @News_Letter sport on Saturday

    That's bad, but it's too early to comment. No harm in letting Munster know he's a doubt though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭leonard7


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Imagine how good MacAllister and Macklin will be when they are old enough to shave.

    macklins had a beard since he was 12...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Ironically it was against Aironi that he crigged his knee. He then missed the quarter final v. Saints. Bellix. At least it's his ankle.......if that's any consolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    At least it's not his knee, I'm clinging to the hope that the mind games have started already and that he'll be fine. Also worried about Cave. Wallace and Cave were both excellent tonight. But they've been excellent all season. Easily the best centre partnership in Ireland IMO.

    Very enjoyable game to watch with countless attacking phases and not just from Ulster to be fair. The Samoan winger for Aironi looks a good player, he had a few of the Ulster lads grasping at thin air at times!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Paul4As


    Over 10,000 at the game last night...3rd highest attendance at Ravenhill for the season. Must've been the good weather...although there was a bit of drizzle in the second half and it was freezing walking back to the car at the end.
    Hope Ferris gets the treatment to sort his ankle out...but if he doesn't make it for Sunday week...one man doesn't make a team. If someone comes in to replace him then who knows, they could play a blinder!
    The focus on Sunday will be the players we have fit...what they can do...not who is missing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Probably been mentioned already but Ferris tweeted:

    "Rolled my ankle but will hopefully be sweet for next sun."

    Sounds relatively upbeat. From a neutral viewpoint, wouldn't be the same if he wasn't playing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭GerM


    If it's just rolled and the swelling isn't too bad, I'd be shocked if he wasn't playing next week. Strap it up, ice the hell out of it and get out on the field. He's absolutely crucial to Ulster's chances. He's the one man that can take the game to Munster up front and comprehensively win his battles. We saw last year what happened in MK when Northampton just outmuscled Ulster without Ferris. They need someone that can set the tempo and lift the side when the chips are down. Afoa has a touch of it but Ferris has that quality in spades.


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭Banbridgeman


    GerM wrote: »
    If it's just rolled and the swelling isn't too bad, I'd be shocked if he wasn't playing next week. Strap it up, ice the hell out of it and get out on the field. He's absolutely crucial to Ulster's chances. He's the one man that can take the game to Munster up front and comprehensively win his battles. We saw last year what happened in MK when Northampton just outmuscled Ulster without Ferris. They need someone that can set the tempo and lift the side when the chips are down. Afoa has a touch of it but Ferris has that quality in spades.
    Ferris will move heaven and earth to play. If he plays I'm very confident. I believe ulster have the best backrow in Ireland with Ferris on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Ferris is already playing without a knee, losing an ankle is a mere fly in the ointment! No doubt in my mind he'll start next weekend.


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