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Galway West General Election

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Can any of the supporters of boards.ie's landslide poll winner Derek Nolan tell me any of Labour's policies that differ in any way from FG's? Renegotiated but accepted bailout? Universal health insurance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Ray Burkes Pension


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Can any of the supporters of boards.ie's landslide poll winner Derek Nolan tell me any of Labour's policies that differ in any way from FG's? Renegotiated but accepted bailout? Universal health insurance?

    Labour want to raise income tax whereas Fine Gael want to cut public service jobs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    I was under the impression they both wanted to do both!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Off the top of my head;

    Labour oppose tuition fees whereas FG want to bring in a graduate tax.

    Labour want to make up the deficit via 25% cuts, 75% tax increases. FG want the reverse.

    Labour want to raise the top rate of tax, FG want to maintain it the way it is.

    Labour want to honour the Croke Park agreement (losing 18k jobs through voluntary redundancy) whereas FG want to shed 30k jobs.

    Labour want to wait an extra year to try and bring the deficit down, worrying about the effects of taking so much money out of the economy in such a short space of times.

    FG want to sell state assets, Labour want a national investment back.


    As for a renegotiated interest rate/UHI; these are fairly sensible policies. Wouldn't see them as making FG/Labour the same any more than the fact they both want smaller classroom sizes and political reform.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭gimmebroadband




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    One party, but with a stack of independents.
    I'd say it'd last a week, if that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭gimmebroadband


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    One party, but with a stack of independents.
    I'd say it'd last a week, if that.

    With a stack of "like-minded" independants! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    With a stack of "like-minded" independants! :)

    Independants who won't be reliant on the party line and can avoid the party whip. It'd be a disaster.

    Now more than ever we need stable governance. God help us if we have another shower of Independants holding the government to ransom. This means 13 TDs, each with their own agenda and demands who the government is utterly reliant on for each bill to pass. Not two or three, *thirteen*. Such an unstable mix is a recipe for disaster.

    Then again, maybe an Independant from Galway West will get in. We might end up with a few extra hospitals and bypasses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭gimmebroadband


    Who knows, FG might do the unthinkable and get a majority without them! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Who knows, FG might do the unthinkable and get a majority without them! :)

    Not a likely scenario.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Benbecul97


    Fine Gael’s Brian Walsh is to become the new ‘big name’ in Galway West politics, while Fianna Fáil’s Frank Fahey, a major name on the national stage, will lose his seat, according to a new opinion poll for Galway West carried out by the Galway Advertiser.

    The poll, carried out at 41 different locations throughout the constituency last Thursday and Friday, using a sample ballot paper and interviewing 410 voters, shows that the Fianna Fáil vote has collapsed, unlike the Fine Gael, Left, and Independent votes which have increased.

    Galway West was long one of the most predictable and, in its voting habits, conservative constituencies, but the poll shows a new political era beginning to emerge - Fine Gael wins two seats, Fianna Fáil drop to one, Labour holds on, and the constituency elects its first Independent TD and only its second ever female TD.

    However, the poll shows that six of the 17 candidates have broken away from the field for the five seats and that Independent councillor Catherine Connolly will still be heavily involved in the race for the fifth seat.

    FG emerge as the biggest political party in the constituency with 31 per cent. Fianna Fáil’s long dominance comes to an abrupt end as it achieves only 19 per cent support, a fall of almost 18 per cent since 2004. The Independents fare very well, scoring almost two quotas at 28 per cent. Labour gets 12 per cent, Sinn Féin gets six, and the Greens are on three.

    Councillor Brian Walsh tops the poll with 14.88 per cent of the vote, and is elected with 17.56 per cent. Fianna Fáil’s Éamon Ó Cuív takes the second seat with a combined vote of 18.05 per cent, having received 10.73 per cent of first preferences.

    In a reflection of the more fractured nature of the electorate, which has resulted from the collapse of the traditional patterns and loyalties, according to the poll, the final three seats are won by candidates who fail to reach the quota.

    Labour councillor Derek Nolan gets 11.95 per cent of the vote and wins the third seat on a combined vote of 14.88 per cent. Independent Noel Grealish gets 11.22 per cent first preferences and takes the fourth seat, also with a vote of 14.88 per cent. If he repeats this on February 25, he will become the first Independent to have been elected in Galway West since the constituency was created in 1937.

    Dep Grealish’s main rival in the Oranmore area, Sen Fidelma Healy-Eames also gets 11.22 per cent in our poll, and takes the last seat with a combined total of 13.9 per cent. However, hovering just underneath is Independent councillor Catherine Connolly whose first preference vote of 8.95 per cent rises to 11.95 per cent following transfers.

    Being just four points shy of a quota gives her an outside chance and sets up the prospect of a fierce battle between herself and Sen Healy-Eames, not only for the final seat, but for the right to be the first woman elected in Galway West since Máire Geoghegan Quinn.

    Speculation and debate up to now had seen the fight for the last seat as being between Connolly, Grealish, and Fahey or Crowe. However the dramatic fall in Fianna Fáil support means it is not able to challenge for a second seat, being short the 11 to 14 per cent needed to reach two quotas.

    Much of that vote has gone towards the other parties, particularly it seems FG and Independents and it is impossible to see where any other votes for FF can come from. Also the fall in Dep Fahey’s vote to 5.85 per cent ensures he is not in the running for a seat, while Mayor Michael J Crowe’s dismal showing of 2.68 per cent is among the lowest of all, placing him 12th on a list of 17 candidates.

    http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/36571


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭whatstherush


    Benbecul97 wrote: »
    Fine Gael’s Brian Walsh is to become the new ‘big name’ in Galway West politics, ....

    What happened FG's Sean Kyne, thought I saw a poll some where which had him leading among the 4 FG canidates.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    The Full analysis is on Pages 30 -32 in the Online Edition of the Advertiser which is here or on the right of the home page at www.galwayadvertiser.com

    Tabulated data attached showing % and transfer patterns. Sorry about the size if you are on a mobile :) The Poll will be maybe 60,000 max so work the percentages off that. A Quota is 16.67% in Galway West.

    Apropos FG only. Crudely Kyne would only be on target for 1000 votes or so based on this poll. Naughton 2000 . B Walsh 9000 . Healy Eames 7000 , quota is 9-10k so the pair of them can hang in easy for the seat and get over or near the line once Naughton goes.

    Fahey and Crowe are on course for 3500 and 1500 respectively which leaves FF with a quota but feck all on top really.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Latest Mulholland Odds 17 Feb. The LAST set dates from 10 Feb

    In order of betting as of 17th Feb:

    1. Ó Cuív 1/16 1/12 1/12 1/14 1/14
    2. B Walsh 1/5 1/3 1/3 1/3 1/3
    3. Nolan Evens 1/3 1/3 1/3 2/5
    4. Grealish 1/10 2/5 2/5 4/9 2/5
    5. Connolly 8/13 4/7 4/7 1/2 2/5
    6. Healy Eames 2/7 1/4 1/3 4/7 8/13
    7. Naughton 6/1 3/1 5/2 5/2 11/4
    8. E Walsh 20/1 6/1 6/1 11/4 11/4
    9. Crowe 5/2 5/2 5/2 3/1 7/2
    10. Fahey 3/1 5/2 5/2 4/1 4/1
    11. Kyne 6/1 5/1 5/1 7/1 7/1
    12. Ó Clochartaigh - - 10/1 10/1 10/1
    12. Ó Brolcháin 25/1 16/1 12/1 12/1 16/1
    13. Tom Welby _ 12/1 12/1 12/1
    14. Mike Cubbard IND _ 33/1 50/1 50/1


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Great to see that fahey won't get in


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭gimmebroadband


    It's no surprise that O'Cuiv tops the poll. Not sorry to see Fahy go , and it looks like Crowe won't make it either!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Rumour that the advertiser opinion poll was largely conducted outside shopping in Galway such as the Headford Road and Westside Shopping centres with a bit of Infill outside Supervalu in Barna and Moycullen and also Tesco Oranmore.

    That may explain why Mike Cubbard who lives near Westside Shopping Centre and Aldi did so well. Anyone who does not shop between 9 and 6 could be under represented. It is demographically OK but a sample of eg 60 year old + Connemara people may actually be 60 year old Connnemara shoppers :)

    We might have to adjust our expectation of some of the outcomes, eg Kyne Welby Crowe and O Clochartaigh frankly appear to be a smidge too low ( not that any of them will get a seat) and Cubbard appears too high all things considered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 liabhroidi


    The article says the poll took place in 41 different locations in the conctituency using the electoral register. the sunday independet poll last weekend was carried out by phone and admitted 55 per cent of respondents were in connemara, and so three of the polltoppers in that were from connemara.
    If i were waging a bet, I know which poll I'd stick closer to. The sample ballot paper approach is the proper way that red C use. the sample was the standard sample too.
    Methinks some people dont like what they are reading from the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Pure Sound


    If the advertiser are correct it would be terrible. Former FF supporters predictably vote for FG because they hav'nt got a clue. Heally eames and grealish expected to get in - how ridiculous is that. Grealish has done nothing in his years as standing TD, Healy-Eames is a media whore who points a lot but doesn't seem to get anything done. With Connollys portfolio she should not be struggling for a place against either of these two. The O'Cuiv vote is a guarantee but its still wrong - do people not realise that along with Grealish he is part of a Government that has crippled us financially for years to come.

    This shows that politics should be compulsary in schools because clearly people don't understand it. I think most people vote for who their family voted for because they just don't really want to get into politics. We need to get rid of this civil war politics too. Voting FG will start off privatisation of public sectors -Is this really what people want knowing that your life is reliant on a profit and not basic human entitlements

    New Faces are required for change and we need to take risks on them- The "Better the devil you know" attitude is what has got us into the mess we are in. Hopefully the change in faces can start in Galway.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    liabhroidi wrote: »
    the sunday independet poll last weekend was carried out by phone and admitted 55 per cent of respondents were in connemara, and so three of the polltoppers in that were from connemara.
    If i were waging a bet, I know which poll I'd stick closer to

    The sunday independent poll was crazy but WHERE did you get the information that 55% of the sample was from Connemara ???

    I never saw that admitted anywhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭lezza


    i will vote sinn fein because they are the only party who are trying to get our natural resources back, UP TO 10 BILLION 'BARRELS OF OIL EQUILEVENT' OF OIL AND GAS LIES IN IRELANDS ATLANTIC MARGIN (SEE WWW.DCENR.GOV.IE)

    THATS WORTH 540 BILLION AT TODAYS PRICES,, GOOD NEWS FOR IRELAND????

    NO IN 1987 CORRUPT POLITICIAN RAY BURKE CHANGED THE LAW SO SHELL AND STATOIL OWN THE CORRIB GAS AND WILL SELL IT TO BORD GAIS,

    MEDIA BARON TONY O REILLY WHO OWNS PROVIDENCE RESOURCES OWNS HALF OF THE OIL PROSPECTS VALUED AT 50 BILLION OFF DALKEY WHICH IRELAND NEITHER GETS A SHARE OR ROYALTY,
    NORWAY WILL BENIFIT MORE FROM IRISH GAS THAN IRELAND WILL, DUE TO SEMI-STATE STATOIL'S 37% STAKE IN CORRIB AND NORWAYS HEALTHIER ATTITUDE TO BIG CORPORATIONS, UNLIKE IRELANDS PLIANT POLITICIANS, WHO HAVE FOUND IT EASIER TO FACE DOWN THE IRISH PUBLIC THAN BIG BUSINESS

    THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS CAN BE RENEGOTIIATED LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE WHY DONT WE, 540 FECKIN BILLION


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Paddypower Odds Synthetic Series

    Seán Kyne the one with the momentum!

    Dates 25/1 29/1 01/02 03/02 05/02 20/02

    Eamonn O'Cuiv 1/10 1/16 1/16 1/16 1/16 1/14
    Frank Fahey 8/13 4/5 6/4 7/4 9/4 4/1
    Niall O'Brolcháin 8/1 8/1 8/1 8/1 10/1 16/1
    Derek Nolan 1/4 4/9 4/9 4/9 4/9 4/7
    Brian Walsh 8/13 2/5 4/11 1/3 1/3 2/7
    Trevor O'Clochartaigh 10/1 12/1 12/1 10/1 10/1 14/1
    Fidelma Healy-Eames 2/7 2/5 4/9 1/2 1/2 8/15
    Hildegarde Naughton 2/1 13/8 7/4 7/4 9/4 3/1
    Noel Grealish 1/2 8/15 8/15 4/9 4/9 8/15
    Michael Crowe 7/2 7/2 9/2 9/2 10/3 7/2
    Mike Cubbard (Ind) 33/1 33/1 33/1 40/1 40/1 40/1
    Catherine Connolly 1/2 4/11 4/11 2/5 2/5 2/5
    Sean Kyne 5/1 5/1 6/1 6/1 6/1 9/4
    Eamon Walsh . 20/1 7/1 5/1 4/1 5/1
    Tommy Welby . . . 10/1 10/1 5/1


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭shaggykev


    Think Powers have bought into that highly questionable Sindo Poll

    In all honesty it looks liek FG have to take two seats and I'd say Brian Walsh in still in poll position. Fidelma is useless in my opinion but she seems to be the other one by default.

    The advertiser poll had Kyne nowhere while Sindo had him topping the poll. While neither might be wrong I see him going out 7th or 8th

    He's still 4/1 in a few other bookies


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A FF canditate to top the poll.

    Wtf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ConnemaraGirl


    As predicted yes O'cuiv will take a seat - I used to vote for him. A good man but people need to vote for party rather than person.

    Fahey - nope its curtains for him
    Welby - nope..
    Definetly not voting FF or Sinn Fein


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    As predicted yes O'cuiv will take a seat - I used to vote for him. A good man but people need to vote for party rather than person.
    A good man wouldn't be in Fianna Fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ConnemaraGirl


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    A good man wouldn't be in Fianna Fail.

    Anyhow I will not get into a debate on who is good... but no FF will get my vote forever.. along with other families my family has been affected in a big way - and for the first time in all our families memory - my dad will be voting FG - He reckons Kyne and Healy Eames - he reckons the other canditates would not find their way out to Connemara not amind back to Galway.

    Roll on polling day! looking forward to new beginnings...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Benbecul97


    With FG in the high 30s in the opinion polls, what are the prospects of 3 FG seats here? With Walsh and Healy-Eames looking like they will be elected, could they also carry one of Kyne or Naughton over the line?

    There has always been a PD seat here but with PD voters more likely to vote FG, and Grealish linked with returning to FF and the fact that he supported the last few governments, could he lose out to FG?

    Anyone have any odds on 3 FG seats?

    Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    I really doubt FG will get 3 seats; their decision to run 4 candidates splits the votes too much.

    Ó Cuív is more or less a guaranteed seat.
    There are 2 FG seats for sure.


    Labour are still doing well in the polls, even without the Michael D factor, Nolan will still be doing well, especially with transfers from Greens and has a party machine behind him.
    Connolly has enough of the hard left vote, some from Conamara plus transfers from SF.
    Grealish is also likely to do fairly well.

    It'll be between those 3 for the last 2 seats. FG's vote will be split too much (FHE and Grealish will get the Eastern vote, Walsh the city FG vote and Naughton being unlikely to tap these votes enough to get her over the line)
    and FG's Irish policy is unpopular in the Gaeltacht with English Conamara lacking the votes to carry him)
    With Grealish getting the ex-PD vote and Connolly and Nolan each having their own guaranteed pool of voters, it's extremely unlikely that FG will have the votes to get them a 3rd seat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 bluetree


    Lockstep wrote: »
    I really doubt FG will get 3 seats; their decision to run 4 candidates splits the votes too much.

    Ó Cuív is more or less a guaranteed seat.
    There are 2 FG seats for sure.


    Labour are still doing well in the polls, even without the Michael D factor, Nolan will still be doing well, especially with transfers from Greens and has a party machine behind him.
    Connolly has enough of the hard left vote, some from Conamara plus transfers from SF.
    Grealish is also likely to do fairly well.

    It'll be between those 3 for the last 2 seats. FG's vote will be split too much (FHE and Grealish will get the Eastern vote, Walsh the city FG vote and Naughton being unlikely to tap these votes enough to get her over the line)
    and FG's Irish policy is unpopular in the Gaeltacht with English Conamara lacking the votes to carry him)
    With Grealish getting the ex-PD vote and Connolly and Nolan each having their own guaranteed pool of voters, it's extremely unlikely that FG will have the votes to get them a 3rd seat.



    Hi Folks

    I decided to take a skim through boards and other forums to see what people are saying about the election. One thing is for sure we all have our opinions. some comments are balanced and some are very aggressive towards politics in general. I think we need to take a step back from this and consider things a bit more objectively. We give out about TD's and there wages. but when you consider the hours they work, (roughly 80hours + per week) so after the 100k gross wage they get roughly 65k net. dividing this up by an 80 hr week , it works out @ €16 an hour. roughly average industrial wage. thats the objective part. Personnaly my thoughts are this country has been destroyed by our lack of willingness to take on the vested interests in our public sector. mainly unions & the IMO. We were going ok untill Bertie sold his soul to the unions. Don't get me wrong I'm not anti Union. but what has happened over the last 10/15 years in ireland is a disgrace. For the record i think the result will be:

    Walsh A decent guy from what i hear
    OCuiv has built enough piers out west
    Nolan or Connolly this could be closer than people think
    Grealish despite lack of party machine. he has a very strong base and works hard on local issues
    5th seat between the loser of the 3rd seat and FHE & HN
    Personnaly i won't give FHE anything because she is a nasty piece of work, her own party can't stand her. she's telling lies all over the place. trys to take the credit for things she did nothing for. sorry i was slipping into a rant. i need to breath...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    How is the quota of 16.67% calculated?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    bluetree wrote: »
    but when you consider the hours they work, (roughly 80hours + per week) so after the 100k gross wage they get roughly 65k net. dividing this up by an 80 hr week , it works out @ €16 an hour. roughly average industrial wage. thats the objective part.
    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Benbecul97


    kraggy wrote: »
    How is the quota of 16.67% calculated?

    The quota is calculated by dividing the valid poll (100%) by one more than the number of seats to be filled.
    So in a :
    5-seater its 100/6 = 16.67%
    4-seater its 100/5 = 20%
    3-seater its 100/4 = 25%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭R28


    I know this list is your prediction but I just had to comment on your assessment of the candidates. Being a 'decent guy' or having built a few piers is not the criteria we should be assessing our potential national representatives.

    As for Grealish working hard on local issues...Firstly politicans focusing on local parish pump politics is one of the reasons this country is ****ed, and Grealish as an 'independent' (independent me hole-who was propping up FF for the past few years?) was one of those responsible for focusing on the local at the expense of the national. Secondly I would love to see the evidence of where he was working hard, as quite frankly I haven't heard any thing he has actually done. Was he not one of the TD's who spoke the least in the Dáil?
    bluetree wrote: »

    Walsh A decent guy from what i hear
    OCuiv has built enough piers out west
    Nolan or Connolly this could be closer than people think
    Grealish despite lack of party machine. he has a very strong base and works hard on local issues
    5th seat between the loser of the 3rd seat and FHE & HN
    Personnaly i won't give FHE anything because she is a nasty piece of work, her own party can't stand her. she's telling lies all over the place. trys to take the credit for things she did nothing for. sorry i was slipping into a rant. i need to breath...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    She is going to Repudiate the forign debt.

    Newsflash: No, she isn't.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    She is committed to protecting our Natural resources Oil, Gas and forestry. She is going to Repudiate the forign debt.
    Why do I get the image of her charging at the Reichstag on her bike, like the Polish cavalry of legend squaring up to a Panzer Division?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ConnemaraGirl


    Hi Bluetree
    Skimming through boards.ie its obvious you are not a fan of FHE and a hugh fan of walsh. So what I think is the race is closer than you think and Healy-Eames is a threat. I've heard what you have to say about the candidate its your personal opinion which I think is incorrect.

    My dad has met healy-eames in connemara in the past at her clinics and he said that she is a very trust worthy character - and gets the work done. We used to vote o cuiv and this time voting FG instead of FF - We will be voting Healy-EAmes and Kyne for sure. We have not met Walsh or Naughton... By all accounts I hear these are also good people - but kyne and healy- eames have been in FG alot longer and looks like they deserve to be there.

    According to thread on Grealish he is very much associated to FF - and what weight can an independent carry - I dunno.. he would certainly win the poster campaign he has so many about.

    Nolan will probably do it.. but it will be close.

    It will be an interesting Election - I look forward to the results.
    bluetree wrote: »
    Hi Folks

    I think ocuiv is for sure. Its tipped that walsh and healy-eames to take 2 seats and after that its anyones game.. It will be an exc
    How about Walsh A decent guy from what i hear
    OCuiv has built enough piers out west
    Nolan or Connolly this could be closer than people think
    Grealish despite lack of party machine. he has a very strong base and works hard on local issues
    5th seat between the loser of the 3rd seat and FHE & HN
    Personnaly i won't give FHE anything because she is a nasty piece of work, her own party can't stand her. she's telling lies all over the place. trys to take the credit for things she did nothing for. sorry i was slipping into a rant. i need to breath...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Could anything be sillier than voting for O'Cuiv because "he's great for the Gaeltacht" when there isn't a snowball in hell that he'll be a minister in any way shape or form nevermind of the Gaeltacht after the next election?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    I've met FHE 3 times and always came away with a poor impression of her. Very condescending and seems like your typical parish pump politician. Seems more concerned with who I'm related to and my personal life than what her policies are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 1sttruth


    question is.... do you vote for the candidate who best serves your interest,regional or national?
    this,to my mind,is a fundamental problem with our electoral system.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    1sttruth wrote: »
    question is.... do you vote for the candidate who best serves your interest,regional or national?
    this,to my mind,is a fundamental problem with our electoral system.

    Well there are those who says that sorting out the country has to start at the grassroots (think Michael Healy Rae was on about this ;) ), in essence the regional interest will serve the national.

    Then you have those who argue that you take care of the nation and your region will prosper.

    Whilst it's easy to dismiss the first (and I'd be totally guilty of that), I think back to what Ming said about hospital services in his area. Something along the lines of fighting to keep their regional because of not wanting "our kids to die on the road to Galway."

    Imo a clearer divide is needed between local and national government,


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 bluetree


    Hi Bluetree
    Skimming through boards.ie its obvious you are not a fan of FHE and a hugh fan of walsh. So what I think is the race is closer than you think and Healy-Eames is a threat. I've heard what you have to say about the candidate its your personal opinion which I think is incorrect.

    My dad has met healy-eames in connemara in the past at her clinics and he said that she is a very trust worthy character - and gets the work done. We used to vote o cuiv and this time voting FG instead of FF - We will be voting Healy-EAmes and Kyne for sure. We have not met Walsh or Naughton... By all accounts I hear these are also good people - but kyne and healy- eames have been in FG alot longer and looks like they deserve to be there.

    According to thread on Grealish he is very much associated to FF - and what weight can an independent carry - I dunno.. he would certainly win the poster campaign he has so many about.

    Nolan will probably do it.. but it will be close.

    It will be an interesting Election - I look forward to the results.


    Hi Connemara girl

    i take your point about FHE been around awhile. . but BW shouldn't be anywhere near her. we should be talking about who is getting the 2nd FG seat. the fact that the 1st FG seat is in play says alot about FHE.about your dad having a good experience, from what i've heard he must have caught her on a good day. i can only speak from my own perspective of course.but i've just heard too many negative things about her. oranmore people and FG people. But hey are we lucky to be able to have this discussion. look at the poor sods in north africa. We'll know most of the answers on Sat evening :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 bluetree


    When you compare Ireland with most western countrys we have very easy access to our politicians.

    This is the problem. I looked at some of the comments about local vs national interests.I don't think our politicians have any choice but to work on local issues. if they don't they will be voted out at the next election when they re-apply for their jobs. The system has to change.

    What i would propose have the 9 TD's in Galway stay on local issues and get rid of the County & City Councillors. The people we need for the National parliament to be elected in a completely seperate election. they would need to be qualified in the area's that they administer. What do you all think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ConnemaraGirl


    To be quite honest the only negativity around for FHE is on boards.ie - not from anywhere else. MY dad along with alot of others I know have looked up candidates work to-date and what they have done - so he didn't just meet her on a good day. Its based on what she has done and achieved. Along with Kyne. There is also alot of hatred for Catherine Connolly on boards.ie. Surprising...

    Look proof of the pudding will be when the people vote on Friday - And I wish them all luck.
    bluetree wrote: »
    Hi Connemara girl

    i take your point about FHE been around awhile. . but BW shouldn't be anywhere near her. we should be talking about who is getting the 2nd FG seat. the fact that the 1st FG seat is in play says alot about FHE.about your dad having a good experience, from what i've heard he must have caught her on a good day. i can only speak from my own perspective of course.but i've just heard too many negative things about her. oranmore people and FG people. But hey are we lucky to be able to have this discussion. look at the poor sods in north africa. We'll know most of the answers on Sat evening :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    I have just read this thread and I am surprised how many people think Grealish is a certainty. Despite his number of posters, I wouldn't be too sure.

    Connolly has just lost my preference vote on the bypass issue - it's a no-brainer that Galway needs an outer bypass. Did I read Nolan also does not want a bypass?

    I will be giving Eamon Walsh my #1 and maybe some other IND candidates and a few FG after that.

    Fahey will not get elected. Zero chance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 bluetree


    To be quite honest the only negativity around for FHE is on boards.ie - not from anywhere else. MY dad along with alot of others I know have looked up candidates work to-date and what they have done - so he didn't just meet her on a good day. Its based on what she has done and achieved. Along with Kyne. There is also alot of hatred for Catherine Connolly on boards.ie. Surprising...

    Look proof of the pudding will be when the people vote on Friday - And I wish them all luck.

    Exactly I think we will agree to differ on this. roll on saturday!:)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Birroc wrote: »
    Connolly has just lost my preference vote on the bypass issue - it's a no-brainer that Galway needs an outer bypass. Did I read Nolan also does not want a bypass?
    Nolan's come out very much in favour of the bypass. He wrote a letter to the Advertiser a few weeks ago to that effect and stating that if we're to properly implement buslanes (and the Monorail/GLUAS) the bypass needs to free up the space on the roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    To be quite honest the only negativity around for FHE is on boards.ie - not from anywhere else. MY dad along with alot of others I know have looked up candidates work to-date and what they have done - so he didn't just meet her on a good day. Its based on what she has done and achieved. Along with Kyne. There is also alot of hatred for Catherine Connolly on boards.ie. Surprising...

    Look proof of the pudding will be when the people vote on Friday - And I wish them all luck.

    FHE was getting the same response in NUIG. She spoke terribly at the candidates debate and was lambasted by the student press. I've met her a few times and always came away with a poor impression of her.


    Gotta say, I'm hearing a lot of bad things about her on the ground but your anecdotal experiences are completely at odds with my own, and it seems, the rest of the boards.ie posters. By contrast, Naughton is coming across very well.

    As for Kyne, feel sorry for the guy. He seems grand and all but the FG Irish policy seems to be going down like a lead balloon in the Gaeltacht.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭Adrian009


    1sttruth wrote: »
    question is.... do you vote for the candidate who best serves your interest,regional or national?
    this,to my mind,is a fundamental problem with our electoral system.

    Good point.

    All politics start locally. Is'nt it a good idea to take care of local issues as well as possible so that they'll be that much less a part of the overall national problems?

    Honestly though it does give me pause, especially in days like these.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Keylem


    We need to get out there and vote tomorrow, no good complaining about the Government if we didn't vote - we need to get our Country off it's a$$ and back on it's knees again!:D


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