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Fingal Tri's Duathlon Series, open for entry.

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    #2
    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    Hi All,

    Remember to get your one day licence if you need one by Thursday 17.02.2011 :D

    Cheers
    Tinydave:)


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    #3
    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    Whats the crack if I haven't received my TI licence yet? I applied last week but probably won't have it in time. Will a copy of the email do?


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    #4
    hf4z6sqo7vjngi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    I might give this a go as the two dates do not clash with other races i have on.


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    #5
    adamski8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    nomadic wrote: »
    Whats the crack if I haven't received my TI licence yet? I applied last week but probably won't have it in time. Will a copy of the email do?
    same here. applied 10 working days ago and no sign of it!


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    #6
    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    Hey lads,

    Any feedback on yesterdays race, good / bad points ? all welcome.
    we had 117 signed up and 96 raced and 2 DNF's.great day had by all and the weather helped alot

    Dave


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    Ah_go_on
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Ah_go_on


    Really enjoyed yesterday, lots of marshals and very well organised, I'll be back for the second one. I now know why that road is called heartbreak hill, nearly killed me on the 2nd run. Very friendly atmosphere aswell, well done. Any sign of results yet???


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    #8
    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    http://chipit.ie/admin/admin/editor.php?action=read&id=192

    It's good to hear good feed back about the race esp as it was our 1st race.
    Alot of talk about the hill, all good and people loving the challenge. See u in march so :)


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    #9
    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    Great race with loads of marshalls and the weather was perfect. Maybe another bike marshall for the next one.;)


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    #10
    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    That's gonna be looked at alright, their was a train of about 6-7 going passed us at transition, no even trying to hide it! :rolleyes:


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    #11
    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    tinydave wrote: »
    That's gonna be looked at alright, their was a train of about 6-7 going passed us at transition, no even trying to hide it! :rolleyes:
    You the bald dude?


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    #12
    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    There was bald welsh dude in transition and bald other guy floating around (that was me):D


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    #13
    adamski8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Really enjoyed my first event! I never expected the hill to be so steep! Im looking forward to next month, hopefully I can run all the way up the hill next time. Glad the one day licenses were made available on the day as I hadnt got my TI license in time.
    That main road was the only bad point, really really bad surface for the bike.


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    #14
    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    tinydave wrote: »
    There was bald welsh dude in transition and bald other guy floating around (that was me):D
    Ahh right, I was the chap who was following the train that gave you's a shout. Cheers for the offer of a doughnut. I'm sorry now I didn't take it.


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    adamski8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    nomadic wrote: »
    Ahh right, I was the chap who was following the train that gave you's a shout. Cheers for the offer of a doughnut. I'm sorry now I didn't take it.
    whats a train?:confused:


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    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    adamski8 wrote: »
    whats a train?:confused:
    Big line of bikes a little too close together.


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    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    For the sole reason that draftees got done unlike the other duathlons I will be back. blatant drafting and pathetic excuses afterwards "I couldn't have been drafting I was the fastest on the bike" four people said that. One if the top three claimed "but you just couldn't drop back when passed". No actually you could, you just didn't. Fantastic to see the rule enforced. Just wish more races did. As more and more clubs teach members how to draft in races it's great to see an organiser running a more fair race.

    (a good race for lots of other reasons too really enjoyed it. Would be perfect if the first run was longer)


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    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    nomadic wrote: »
    Ahh right, I was the chap who was following the train that gave you's a shout. Cheers for the offer of a doughnut. I'm sorry now I didn't take it.

    It was a lovely doughnut too.. :)
    I get to race in the march one so it means I can have 2 maybe 3 more doughnuts lol


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    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    Yea I'd agree with that. Good to see penalties, it was a joke. Just disapointed I got roped in with the rest. What is the usual procedure with draft busting. Can it not be sorted out on the road? The bike passed a load of times but didn't say a word to anyone.


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    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    tunney wrote: »

    (a good race for lots of other reasons too really enjoyed it. Would be perfect if the first run was longer)
    You could go up the Hill further Next time :):p


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    #21
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    On the drafting issue... is 2mins not the standard penalty?


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    d4r3n
    Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭d4r3n


    I thought it was marshalled very well, nice to have the Guards at the big junctions and with them stopping the traffic it almost felt like you were on closed roads, the minor roads were so quiet.

    The drafting was quite bad in places though, I could see two guys taking turns for about 7-8 km.


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    #23
    DaveR1
    Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭DaveR1


    tunney wrote: »
    For the sole reason that draftees got done unlike the other duathlons I will be back. blatant drafting

    Fantastic to see the rule enforced.

    @Tunney.... Do you not think the fact that all 7 who were busted had a bike split exactly 1minute faster than the next best bike split (you), meant that by giving them the 1minute penalty just let them get away with it? It didn't change the order of the top 5?
    However a correct 2min penalty or stopping them on the road as the rules imply when its constant, or disqualification, would all have moved you up to 1st?


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    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Okay - I had assumed it was a 2 minute penalty. 1 minute is a joke and does not act as a deterent to drafting. In fact, knowing its only a minute the next time I ...............

    Did I deserve to win - no.
    However did some weaker bikers outsplit me - yes.
    Is one minute fair no. Is 2, barely. 5-10 minutes pentlaty and that acts as a deterent.
    Actually now that i think about it 1 minute, thats like saying "come race, come draft, its all good"
    In fact I'm rather annoyed. I know some of the top five are much weaker than
    Me on the bike but rode faster.


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    #25
    nomadic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭nomadic


    tunney wrote: »
    Okay - I had assumed it was a 2 minute penalty. 1 minute is a joke and does not act as a deterent to drafting. In fact, knowing its only a minute the next time I ...............

    Did I deserve to win - no.
    However did some weaker bikers outsplit me - yes.
    Is one minute fair no. Is 2, barely. 5-10 minutes pentlaty and that acts as a deterent.
    Actually now that i think about it 1 minute, thats like saying "come race, come draft, its all good"
    In fact I'm rather annoyed. I know some of the top five are much weaker than
    Me on the bike but rode faster.


    I think the penalties given were convenient in that they showed that they acted on the drafting but it didn't really penalise anyone ie. avoiding any real controversy.

    I'd be pissed off if it was anything more than a training race for me. Just for the record,I feel I would have gone quicker on the bike but there was no way past the group. I asked for the bike marshall to be sent up to the front as I passed transition after the first lap(tinydave can back me up on that one).


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    #26
    Ceepo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    mloc123 wrote: »
    On the drafting issue... is 2mins not the standard penalty?

    My understanding is that for Sprint distance, penalty is 1 min, Oly is 2 mins and longer distances 5 mins,
    1 minute is the correct penalty. not everyone will agree if its fair but them's the rules.

    But as far as i know the draft marshal can stop (when safe) and give the time penalty and then the draftee can carry on about there race, and in this case 6 people as the first in line is deemed not to drafting could have been stopped.

    Everyone knows that it happens and its good to see that something is been done about it


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    adamski8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    I'm guessing everyone will be faster next race?! what times generally would people expect the times to go by? Would it be ambitious of me to aim for 10mins off my time of 1:16?


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    Fergus McGrath
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Fergus McGrath


    Ceepo wrote: »
    My understanding is that for Sprint distance, penalty is 1 min, Oly is 2 mins and longer distances 5 mins,
    1 minute is the correct penalty. not everyone will agree if its fair but them's the rules.

    But as far as i know the draft marshal can stop (when safe) and give the time penalty and then the draftee can carry on about there race, and in this case 6 people as the first in line is deemed not to drafting could have been stopped.

    Everyone knows that it happens and its good to see that something is been done about it
    Your right about the penalties there id say it would be more of a penalty to stop them on the course as it would work out as a more than 1 min penalty ! Ideally if we had a few motorbike marshals this would be the way to do it but unfortunately not able to be done for this race at east for the 1st one !
    This is only our 1st race so we will definitely be aiming to improve as we go along
    Roll on March 19th:pac:
    And thanks for the feedback guys


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    #29
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    I thought it was a well marshalled race and I was impressed at the number of volunteers.

    If I was to do the next race I would do a few things differently. I would be lighter, I would wear a heavier runner. I would have practised short course transitions and stay on course on the bike. more importantly I'd sit off the back on the bike (legally or illegally - probably illegally) and wait for T2 and then run with fresh legs. One minute for drafting - cheers, I'll take that.

    On a separate note is there a contact email address for the race organiser? Unrelated to anything discussed on this thread.


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    #30
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    To clarify - I really enjoyed this race and thought the organisers, the club and the marshals did themselves proud. A challenging course with a nice post race spread.


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    tinydave
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭tinydave


    nomadic wrote: »
    I think the penalties given were convenient in that they showed that they acted on the drafting but it didn't really penalise anyone ie. avoiding any real controversy.

    I'd be pissed off if it was anything more than a training race for me. Just for the record,I feel I would have gone quicker on the bike but there was no way past the group. I asked for the bike marshall to be sent up to the front as I passed transition after the first lap(tinydave can back me up on that one).

    Yep you gave us a shout as you went passed and you were well out of the drafting box when i seen you :)


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