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j8wk2feszrnpao

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Awful start by the offense. Edelman drops a ball he should have caught and Dobson & Thompkins probably would have caught the very first missed pass which sailed past Gronk.

Edelman could only get fingertips on it.
Pass to Gronk was overthrown.
Tom is getting the pass protection.

Son Of A Vidic

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Edelman could only get fingertips on it.
Pass to Gronk was overthrown.
Tom is getting the pass protection.

I didn't think the first pass to Gronk was over thrown, I just feel he hasn't' the kind of Gazelle like spring that Dobson & Thompkins have for a pass like that. The second miss I put on Brady though.

Son Of A Vidic

That's the third three and out. Another very poor start.

JaMarcus Hustle

This is horrendous. Thank God Cleveland have only mustered 6 points. We have been absolutely awful in so many first half games this year. This may be the worst aside from Denver.

Why the hell isn't Blount getting more carries?

Son Of A Vidic

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

This is horrendous. Thank God Cleveland have only mustered 6 points. We have been absolutely awful in so many first half games this year. This may be the worst aside from Denver.

I suppose I should be glad that I've missed a lot of the game thanks to GP. These poor starts really need to stop, because it won't be good enough in the playoffs.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Drops, drops, drops.
When you're not playing well, simple drops hurt a lot more.

me89

Horrible first half :eek:

Son Of A Vidic

Odin Brief Watchband wrote: »

Drops, drops, drops.
When you're not playing well, simple drops hurt a lot more.

Just caught some of those drops when GP started working. It looked like the early season again. :mad:

Son Of A Vidic

Brady sacked again and it's not the first time I've seen poor play by Solder give up a sack this year.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Awful in just about all aspects.
Offense will have to really step up as it doesn't look like the d can make a decent stop.

BizzyC

Hope Gronk is ok,that was a nasty hit.

He's done today, just hope it's not more serious than that.

AbusesToilets

There goes Gronk's season, ****ing cheap hit. ****

me89

That injury could mean the end of any chance we have this season :(

j8wk2feszrnpao

AbusesToilets wrote: »

There goes Gronk's season, ****ing cheap hit. ****

Aimed for his knee.
If it's the end of Gronks season, it's the end of the Pats SB run.

SantryRed

AbusesToilets wrote: »

There goes Gronk's season, ****ing cheap hit. ****

Wasn't a cheap hit at all. Get over yourself. Hope he's alright, but it's a fair tackle.

TO.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

There goes Gronk's season, ****ing cheap hit. ****

Clean hit nothing wrong with it. But the biggest problem is helmets and knees don't go well together and these defensive guys have been told they cant go high so going low within the rules is the next best thing

AbusesToilets

SantryRed wrote: »

Wasn't a cheap hit at all. Get over yourself. Hope he's alright, but it's a fair tackle.

Might be a "fair" tackle but that was aimed directly at his knee, with a high chance of injury.

SantryRed

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Might be a "fair" tackle but that was aimed directly at his knee, with a high chance of injury.

He was trying to take him down. Gronkowski is a beast of a man, best way to take him down is to try go for his legs. There's no nastiness in the hit at all. Clean and fair.

JaMarcus Hustle

Season over. Both ours and Gronks. I have no doubt about that

Without him, we'll limp into the playoffs but we don't stand a chance.

TO.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Might be a "fair" tackle but that was aimed directly at his knee, with a high chance of injury.

So you are saying the tackler hit him with the intention of fooking his knee up? Because that is what you are saying when you call it a cheap shot.

AbusesToilets

TO. wrote: »

So you are saying the tackler hit him with the intention of fooking his knee up? Because that is what you are saying when you call it a cheap shot.

I wouldn't be shocked if he did, but of course I have no way of knowing the intentions of someone else. There are ways to make that tackle in a safer fashion and still make the stop, i.e. using your arms and wrapping up. Ward went in like a rocket aiming at Gronk's knee. To me, that's a cheap shot, but that's just my opinion, no more valuable than that of anyone else

JaMarcus Hustle

You're not gonna stop Gronk by hitting him in the chest. NFL is encouraging lower hits to bring down the big guys, Ward just obliged. Ugly hit, but he's doing his job as the rulebook allows him to.

TO.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I wouldn't be shocked if he did, but of course I have no way of knowing the intentions of someone else. There are ways to make that tackle in a safer fashion and still make the stop, i.e. using your arms and wrapping up. Ward went in like a rocket aiming at Gronk's knee. To me, that's a cheap shot, but that's just my opinion, no more valuable than that of anyone else

I coach and play the game and with a helmet and pads on you trying to wrap legs at speed is a 50/50 shot at best. The amount of times I have seen it over the years even here in the US guy goes low to try tackle and misses. The rugby low tackling style doesn't always work and is not very effective at the best of times. Defensive players are actually thought to put their whole body into cut blocks and tackles that require you to go low that way if you make contact momentum will bring someone down especially guys as big as Gronk.

AbusesToilets

TO. wrote: »

I coach and play the game and with a helmet and pads on you trying to wrap legs at speed is a 50/50 shot at best. The amount of times I have seen it over the years even here in the US guy goes low to try tackle and misses. The rugby low tackling style doesn't always work and is not very effective at the best of times. Defensive players are actually thought to put their whole body into cut blocks and tackles that require you to go low that way if you make contact momentum will bring someone down especially guys as big as Gronk.

I will defer to your superior knowledge, and of course there is some strong emotion seeing Gronk probably out for the season. For me, I didn't like that hit, I hate seeing the low shots on players, because of how easily a serious injury can result.

BizzyC

it was a nasty hit, but nothing dirty about it.

All the rules now punish defenders for going high against a receiver who doesn't see them coming. Apart from allowing Gronk to run downfield, don't see what other option the DB had.
Had the defender made contact a half second earlier Gronk would have been up and back in the huddle on the next play.
The injury was just bad luck.

JaMarcus Hustle

We resigned Collie? Missed that completely.

JaMarcus Hustle

As expected

RT @ProFootballTalk: MRI tomorrow for Rob Gronkowski (knee) but initial testing "not encouraging....Not looking good," source said.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Crazy comeback!

AbusesToilets

Need to keep the ball away from Cameron and Gordon here

kryogen

I love this team.