New England Patriots thread (MOD WARNING - #4503)

Son Of A Vidic

DBIreland wrote: »

Is this the list Gronk is on too?
The various lists confuse me

No Gronk is on the PUP list, in order to be eligible for the PUP list you need to have missed all of training camp due to a football related injury. If Gronk is kept on PUP for the final roster submission, then he can't return until after week 6 of the season.

But if he is taken off the PUP list for the final roster submission, then he will be eligible to play from week 1. If the team thinks he might be good to go for week 3 or 4, then they might take him off PUP. Personally I want to keep him on PUP and have him when we need him.

Just to get back to Armstead earlier, the Reserve/NFI (non-football related injury list) It is litterally what it means = the injury or ill health was not casued by or related to football. in Armstead's case, remember he got some nasty staph infection. Hence he goes on the NFI list.

EDIT: Here's a link that breaks it all down for you. I think most of us confuse ourselves half the time anway. So I wouldn't worry about you being confused.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/new-nfl-injuredreserve-ir-rule.html

DBIreland

Soooo, if Armstead starts the season on NFI does that mean he will certainly miss the first 6 games?

Son Of A Vidic

DBIreland wrote: »

Soooo, if Armstead starts the season on NFI does that mean he will certainly miss the first 6 games?

Yes, he can't come back until after week 6.

CJC86

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I was looking at both guys hang time and Mesko clearly wins. I never saw the need for him to be facing competiton anyway. Ghost was the man who should have had the competition this year imo.

True. It was all a question of the talent available in the free agent market though. Allen should probably have been drafted, so it was a no-brainer to bring him in for a look. There just didn't seem to be the same talent in rookie kickers this year.

j8wk2feszrnpao

If there's any trade value for Mallet at the end of the season, then we should take it.
Far too inconsistent again tonight. He's not Tebow bad, but if Tom goes down, we are done.

Son Of A Vidic

I thought he started iffy, but he was sound enough on that last drive, 12 plays & 82 yards. He seems to need to find a rhythm.

Son Of A Vidic

Fúck ya, great throw & TD. And finally Washington flashed some return ability.

Kylo Ren

That interception by Prince that was overruled was bullcrap. We're even now for the two Super Bowls.

Son Of A Vidic

Keno 92 wrote: »

That interception by Prince that was overruled was bullcrap. We're even now for the two Super Bowls.

No, not even, preseason is meaningless. His left hand was ruled to have just gone out of bounds, before his first knee even came down.

Kylo Ren

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

No, not even, preseason is meaningless.

It was obviously a joke.

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

His left hand was ruled to have just gone out of bounds, before his first knee even came down.

Which it wasn't.

Son Of A Vidic

Keno 92 wrote: »

It was obviously a joke.

Yes I know, I was just covering my bases in case we lose. Of course if we win it won't be meaningless. :P

Keno 92 wrote: »

Which it wasn't.

I agree, it was close and I thought the glove was just inside.

j8wk2feszrnpao

I thought the glove was out.
Not sure he maintained control either by the time he was fully out of bounds.

Either way, poor throw.

Not going to evaluate much in the 2nd half.

Son Of A Vidic

I didn't see enough replays of the Int, but the glove looked to be just inside to me. But if it was out like they said it was? Then is must have been by a fingernail. The whole losing control of the ball business can be a bit farcical at times. Some calls are very clear and are the right call. But others are ridiculous and really marginal.

Son Of A Vidic

That young UDFA Winn has been running the ball very well all night.

Son Of A Vidic

Our special teams unit has been totally dire at times this preseason.

j8wk2feszrnpao

We'll only carry two QB's into the regular season. We've only had two in the pre-season.
The Tebow thing has become a joke. Wasted reps for any of those on offence while he's been on the field.
A sack waiting to happen on so many plays.

Son Of A Vidic

He is so slow in his decision making, looks like he might go into headless chicken mode again. 4 sacks already and he needs the WR's to be waving a flag at him before he knows who to throw to.

j8wk2feszrnpao

The real worry is that this is the form he displayed in training camp, and yet wasn't cut, and got significant playing time (and sucked each time).
Josh needs to let it go, it reflects very poorly on him.

Son Of A Vidic

Washington makes one good run all preseason and then he fumbles and losses possession for us.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Bye bye Leon.

Son Of A Vidic

I think so.

Son Of A Vidic

3 shocking pass attempts in a row, the crowd are now booing Tebow.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Nice by Sims, who is prob gonna get cut.
He's one of those guys who's suffered with Tebow Time.

Son Of A Vidic

And he just made Tebow look good.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Oh my ..... That was just awful.
How does a QB make such a poor throw?

Son Of A Vidic

Terrible, terrible, terrible. He is not fixable.

j8wk2feszrnpao

So under thrown that Dobson could even try pass interference to prevent the INT.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Nice again by Sims.
Would like to have seen him more with the 1st string guys.

Son Of A Vidic

It wasn't a bad throw from Tebow, but it's like Russian roulette with him.

Hazys

Hazys wrote: »

My second attempt:

QB (2) Brady, Mallett
RB (4) Ridley, Vereen, Bolden, Blount
WR (6) Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Slater, Thompkins, Edelman
TE (4) Hoomanawanui, Ballard, Fells, Sudfeld
C (1) Wendell
G (4) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon, Kline
T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
DE (5) Ninkovich, Francis, Cunningham, Jones, Benard
DT (4) Wilfork, Forston, Kelly, Pena
ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais
OLB(3) Mayo, Collins, Hightower
CB (5) Talib, Arrington, Cole, Ryan, Dennard
SS (3) Wilson, Wilson, Ebner
FS (3) McCourty, Harmon, Gregory
ST (3) Mesko, Aiken, Gostkowski

Total players: 53

Well that prediction is turning into a piece of ship.

Fells, Ballard and Benard all cut in the last 30 minutes