Who would you rather have as Taoiseach? Micheàl or Enda?

ilovesleep

I have discovered that FF has rigged past elections. Anyone that votes for them is just as corrupt.

th3 s1aught3r

FF should be banned as an organisation

epgc3fyqirnbsx

gerryk wrote: »

Why no love for Eamon Gilmore? As well as having politics that aren't either reprehensible in the extreme, or completely unsustainable, he is a good few steps above the other two in the 'credibility as statesman' stakes... I mean, come on... Brian Cowen is barely literate and Enda... well, he might be a grand lad, but he's a bit 'provincial' for the world stage.

I don't think the 'provincial' argument holds much water to anyone on the world stage, we all sound Irish to them, and in any case who cares? Let's just get this country sorted

What is good management? Good management is surrounding yourself with the people most capable of doing an effective job and FG front bench comes up trumps in this regard. Just look at their policies, by far the most workable and even radical

But yet we are still getting hung up on accents...

bertie has the answer

efb wrote: »

A new (albeit slightly soiled) broom sweeps clean...

I definitely would rather have Micheàl as our next Taoiseach over Inda.

He seems to be the FFer with the least blood on his hands too and the few successes of the recent FF gov seem to trace back to him.

So AH, who would you rather, Micheàl or Enda?

Defintely Michael, FG are a bunch of idiots who cant get their policies right.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Enda. Martin's an absolute prick. Always cuts over other's in a debate. Have no respect for politicians who do that.

Would vote for Cowen ahead of Martin

Laurz858

Micheal Martin and the rest of the politicians that no longer have any faith in Cowen and his bull**** tactics should resign and start up their own party! Then maybe people wud vote for him!! I prefer to to Enda being honest but I defo think Enda's gonna win as no1 in their right mind is gonna vote for FF this time around!!! They did the damage and now they must pay the price!! Although whether any of the other parties can do any better remains yet to be seen!!

aDeener

Stained Class wrote: »

Inda gets my vote!

Mee-haul Martin introduced our glorious Smoking Ban...........Oh, & He's a FF'er to boot!

surely something he should be praised for.....

martin all the way!

Seaneh

Eamon Gilmore?

efb

Looks like it's Biffo or Inda, but Martin will be Taoiseach!

Arnold Layne

gerryk wrote: »

Why no love for Eamon Gilmore? As well as having politics that aren't either reprehensible in the extreme, or completely unsustainable, he is a good few steps above the other two in the 'credibility as statesman' stakes... I mean, come on... Brian Cowen is barely literate and Enda... well, he might be a grand lad, but he's a bit 'provincial' for the world stage.

If only he had policies and not politics :rolleyes:

efb

Go on the Micheàl!

PeterIanStaker

I'd pick Enda over FF any day, inept and all as he may come across.

Ideally FF should never hold power on this island again, but that's wishful thinking on my part as they'll probably be back in next time around:rolleyes::mad::rolleyes:

aDeener

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

I'd pick Enda over FF any day, inept and all as he may come across.

Ideally FF should never hold power on this island again, but that's wishful thinking on my part as they'll probably be back in next time around:rolleyes::mad::rolleyes:

after FG/Lab collapse they will be straight back in

darragh16

Enda was promising all the things FF were in 2007, the only reason he lost is because he wasn't Bertie, so can't trust either of them.

PeterIanStaker

aDeener wrote: »

after FG/Lab collapse they will be straight back in

Thats exactly what I meant. And if FG/Lab manage to stabilise things - even just a tiny wee bit - FF will take credit for it like the opportunistic weasels they are.

whydoibother?

As as the two individuals go, I prefer Micheal, but there is no way I can vote FF after what I've seen in the last couple of years.

I actually think Micheal gives slightly clearer and direct answers than most other politicians around at the moment, rather the round-and-round-in-circles-till-the-interviewer-gives-up approach. I emphasize "slightly".

However, he is most definitely in the wrong party for me this time.

efb

Well Labour's Finance spokesperson fairly exposed her true colours on TONIGHT with VB...

Mike 1972

ORLY? wrote: »

Go ahead, throw your vote away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation

Eric Cartman

if labour / sinn fein / socialists come to power I will leave Ireland, fine geal wouldnt be a bad option if it wasnt for enda (hes a fúcking nutter) , but ill be voting fianna fail, its my only option

ejmaztec

I hope Enda does a Moses, and gives up before FG gets to the promise-land.

Mike 1972

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if labour / sinn fein / socialists come to power I will leave Ireland

Can we have a written undertaking that in the event of any of the above coming to power and in the further event of you being found anywhere within the territory of the Republic of Ireland more than 28 days subsequently that you hereby sign over to boards.ie all your assets, future earnings, firstborn son, virgin daughters, bank accounts, car, house, cocaine, hookers and all other worldly possesions for the use of all boards members attending the next boards beers as they may see fit ?

Or are you just talking through your vagina ?

Kev_ps3

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if labour / sinn fein / socialists come to power I will leave Ireland, fine geal wouldnt be a bad option if it wasnt for enda (hes a fúcking nutter) , but ill be voting fianna fail, its my only option

You have got the intelligence of your name sake.

Eric Cartman

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Can we have a written undertaking that in the event of any of the above coming to power and in the further event of you being found anywhere within the territory of the Republic of Ireland more than 28 days subsequently that you hereby sign over to boards.ie all your assets, future earnings, firstborn son, virgin daughters, bank accounts, car, house, cocaine, hookers and all other worldly possesions for the use of all boards members attending the next boards beers as they may see fit ?

Or are you just talking through your vagina ?

just move over the border so I dont have to pay tax to those cúnts

kev_ps3 - I take it your a left winger then , i bet i can get your life situation in 1 go ,

if your a

labour supporter - probably a student, doing an arts or possibly general science degree , hope to do teaching/research / civil service **** some day, could be working minimum wage, jealous of everyone with more money

socialist supporter - definitley doing nothing with your life , arts degree in a bad college or just on the dole pissing your life away buying hash on street corners

sinn fein - still living with your middle class parents in a nice area, have to do something to break the mould and rebel against society , most definitley dont have a job , pretend your poor and pretend to hate rich people, all the friends you had in school who went to trinity hate you because your a dick

FreudianSlippers

Fianna Fail has really done a number on the county in the past few years, granted.

But if I am looking at Micheál vs Enda as who would be a better Taoiseach of this country (totally ignoring parties) I think Micheál would be better tbh.

FreudianSlippers

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Can we have a written undertaking that in the event of any of the above coming to power and in the further event of you being found anywhere within the territory of the Republic of Ireland more than 28 days subsequently that you hereby sign over to boards.ie all your assets, future earnings, firstborn son, virgin daughters, bank accounts, car, house, cocaine, hookers and all other worldly possesions for the use of all boards members attending the next boards beers as they may see fit ?

Or are you just talking through your vagina ?

If labour / sinn fein / socialists come to power they'll make him do that if he doesn't leave anyway.

Brenireland

OisinT wrote: »

Fianna Fail has really done a number on the county in the past few years, granted.

But if I am looking at Micheál vs Enda as who would be a better Taoiseach of this country (totally ignoring parties) I think Micheál would be better tbh.

Exactly.Endy Kenny is a lost cause as far as I am a concerned & this thread is pointless and should be locked.

Eric Cartman

Brenireland wrote: »

Exactly.Endy Kenny is a lost cause as far as I am a concerned & this thread is pointless and should be locked.

+1 , hes just an objector , not a politician, if FF suggested free cancer drugs for children enda would find some way to shoot it down

Ulysses Gaze

I think Micheál would be better tbh.

Why? If you look at his history, he is incredibly indecisive. Not the sort of man we need as Taoiseach.

Mike 1972

Eric Cartman wrote: »

just move over the border so I dont have to pay tax to those cúnts

Errr you do realise those cúnts are in Government over the border dont you ?

Anyway In the absence of an announcment from the Mods that theyve recieved the signed copy of your undertaking Im going to assume that this is your vagina I am speaking to.

raymon

For anyone who said Michael Martin , have a look at your latest payslip. In my opinion the cabinet (all recent members) should be on trial for treason, starting with biffo , then bertie .

Martin is as culpable . He tried to blame " the system " on the news tonight. He is a liar

Eric Cartman

raymon wrote: »

For anyone who said Michael Martin , have a look at your latest payslip. In my opinion the cabinet (all recent members) should be on trial for treason, starting with biffo , then bertie .

Martin is as culpable . He tried to blame " the system " on the news tonight. He is a liar

still id rather everyone seeing a bad day on their payslip rather than mid to high earners having a bad day and students , dole scroungers and minimum wage workers getting free **** , FF is bad, biffo is a terrible politician , willie o dea or lennihan would have been better, but theres no other option , enda is heading up the only other sensible party to vote for , but hes a nutter, voting left wing is a destructive and pointless move

Mike 1972

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Im going to assume that this is your vagina I am speaking to.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

dole scroungers

Eric Cartman wrote: »

willie o dea ...would have been better

I rest my case !

Eric Cartman

Mike 1972 wrote: »

I rest my case !

youve taken 3 out of context quotes and listed them proving nothing.... i dont see what you did there...

oppenheimer1

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

You have got the intelligence of your name sake.

cartman is a genius! if you think otherwise i suggest you watch scott tenorman must die