Own interpretation of the Bible?

Fanny Cradock

gbee wrote: »

I think Christ's message was purity of spirit.

Well, that's all very well and good. But I'm not sure what it means. I'm also not sure how you know can know such a thing or, indeed, anything about Jesus if you dismiss the Bible.

gbee

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Well, that's all very well and good. But I'm not sure what it means. I'm also not sure how you know can know such a thing or, indeed, anything about Jesus if you dismiss the Bible.

I think the base ethos is defined as faith and if one achieves spirituality one just knows, Christ does not dwell in the book.

The book in it's purest form simply acknowledges a creator, Christ was one who followed that and laid out a covenant for life that, if followed, should bring spiritual awareness.

It's a juxtaposition, for if you follow Christ, you don't need the Bible, yet, as you point you, without the Bible, or someone telling you about it, you'd as likely not know about Christ at all, or at least you'd not call him that.

wolfsbane

Xizors Palace said:

That quote from Colossians is not referring to sexual activity, but rather to food and other things like that.

Yes, but it covers the principle: man-made dos and don'ts don't count.

It's a difficult issue to talk with because of the sensitive and depraved nature of the topic, but there is a very good priest I know who would have a definitive answer for me. If I pluck up the courage to ask him, I will let you know.:)

I'll be glad to hear.

This is the last word as far as I am concerned: http://www.presentationministries.com/brochures/OralSex.asp and really confirms everything I have said up to this point.

It does indeed get to the real defense of your position: it is not about the danger of pre-mature ejaculation, but about it not being 'natural' and it being only about sex, not love. The allegation is that it contravenes the papal injunction: 'in the [generative] function, spouses should experience pleasure and enjoyment of body and spirit. Therefore, the spouses do nothing evil in seeking this pleasure and enjoyment. They accept what the Creator has intended for them. At the same time, spouses should know how to keep themselves within the limits of just moderation.'

But it fails to show how oral sex is any more unnatural than any other sort of sexual fondling, and it fails to show how it is not as much an expression of love as other fondling or the sex act itself.

Remember too, it is service to one's partner, not a self-absorbed act.

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1 Corinthians 7:3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.

Xizors Palace

gbee wrote: »

Because I get inspired and these thoughts come into my head, I've said a few times that Christ's Church has been lost and there is no way the enslavement and punishment meted out in his name through either Islam, Catholicism, Bible Belt Intolerance, Davidism or any other cult can really claim to be Christian.

I think Christ's message was purity of spirit.

Have you got a cult in mind that is Christian?

antiskeptic

wolfsbane wrote:

But it fails to show how oral sex is any more unnatural than any other sort of sexual fondling, and it fails to show how it is not as much an expression of love as other fondling or the sex act itself.

"Rome says it, I believe it, that settles it" ?