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real rappers & studio gangsters
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17-01-2011 5:03pm#1
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Sudio Gangsta's?........If you look back in the history of Gangsta Rap, you look at the first group to gain notoriaty, a little unknown group of lads going by the name N.W.A.
Lets look closer at 2 of thier high profile members.
1. Ice Cube: Ice Cube had just come back from finishing up his Architecture Degree in Pheonix State where he was asked to become part of a new group who would make 'Gangsta' rap. So he adopted a gangsta persona and wrote lyrics based on what he thought was going on. Now, do you think that Mr. Jackson was roaming the halls and campus of Pheonix State with his gat in his belt, dealing crack and pimping fellow students. Me thinks not. Oh, and then he went on to make Are We There Yet, Are We Still Not There Yet and lets not forget his current venture, Are We There Yet the TV Series.
2. Dr. Dre: So what was Dr. Dre doing before N.W.A. He was a DJ and performer with the World Class Wreckin Cru. I think some pictoral evidence might help here:
There are also some fancy pics of Dre wearing bedazzled outfits as well that I cant track down now. But riddle me this, is Dre really a 'Gangsta'? You will also notice that another N.W.A member is in the above picture.
So does Rick Ross's previous employment really matter?
As long as people like the music they are making, does it really matter at all.0 -
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Haven't seen many people defending Rick Rosses gangster status. Most people who like him just say they don't give a crap. He's always been a cartoonish exaggeration.
I'm going to give MF Grimm my seal of genuine OG approval.In 1994, Grimm survived a murder attempt where he was shot seven times by rival drug dealers,[5] and three times in an earlier murder attempt in 1986. As a result of the 1994 attack, he was deafened, blinded, and paralyzed from the waist down. Doctors predicted that he would suffer nulled senses and be paralyzed for the rest of his life. Grimm recovered full vision, hearing, and speech ability, but is still confined to a wheelchair.
Facing narcotics and conspiracy charges, Grimm was sentenced to life imprisonment in 2000. He paid a one-day bail of $100,000, recording The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera in those twenty-four hours.[7] During his stay in jail, Grimm studied law. After filing many appeals, he was able to reduce his sentence to three years and he was released in 2003.
He's recently released a comic book autobiography, which isn't very gangstuh.
Oh, and any excuse to post this video.
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doesnt game claim to be a gangbangin blood etc sure doesnt look like it here , studio gangsta 100 per cent, he acts like a straight bit*h on this, what gangsta you know gets a butterfly tattoo on his face only to cover it up:D
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Well didn't Game get shot 5 times a few years after that? Game is a well known blood, don't think anyone has ever really contested that. He's from Compton and he's dealt drugs, etc. That image has just been pushed and Game exaggerates the whole thing but he's said himself that his life now is nothing like that. I wouldn't say he's a studio gangster "100%", but definitely not as gangster as himself and his label would like us to believe.mufcboy1999 wrote: »doesnt game claim to be a gangbangin blood etc sure doesnt look like it here , studio gangsta 100 per cent, he acts like a straight bit*h on this, what gangsta you know gets a butterfly tattoo on his face only to cover it up:D
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What age was Game when he did Change of Heart? 18 or something.. he's never really appeared to be ashamed of it and he been able to laugh at himself about it, even mentioning it in a couple of songs IIRC.
Not sure what the tattoo jab is about, Game is constantly getting tatted, never really got the butterfly thing either? I mean, 50 got all his tattoos removed and he's "the realest" :rolleyes:
Bottom line, none of these rappers are what they claim to be in their songs. I accept that Game was on a dating show and he had a butterfly tattoo (?)
I know Dr. Dre used to wear make up and dress in questionable outfits while performing dance routines.
I know Rick Ross worked as a correctional officer years and years ago.
I'll still listen to them as long as they make music that I like. Not sure why some people can't look past what someone may have done at some point in the past, pretty pathetic attitude to have IMO.0 -
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Well didn't Game get shot 5 times a few years after that? Game is a well known blood, don't think anyone has ever really contested that. He's from Compton and he's dealt drugs, etc. That image has just been pushed and Game exaggerates the whole thing but he's said himself that his life now is nothing like that. I wouldn't say he's a studio gangster "100%", but definitely not as gangster as himself and his label would like us to believe.
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What age was Game when he did Change of Heart? 18 or something.. he's never really appeared to be ashamed of it and he been able to laugh at himself about it, even mentioning it in a couple of songs IIRC.
Not sure what the tattoo jab is about, Game is constantly getting tatted, never really got the butterfly thing either? I mean, 50 got all his tattoos removed and he's "the realest" :rolleyes:
Bottom line, none of these rappers are what they claim to be in their songs. I accept that Game was on a dating show and he had a butterfly tattoo (?)
I know Dr. Dre used to wear make up and dress in questionable outfits while performing dance routines.
I know Rick Ross worked as a correctional officer years and years ago.
I'll still listen to them as long as they make music that I like. Not sure why some people can't look past what someone may have done at some point in the past, pretty pathetic attitude to have IMO.
you took the bait and came to defend your beloved hero game in record time:D
honestly a part of me done that too see how you would react, too easy.
50 was a gangsta though thats the thing even some of 50's worst enemies quote that, they all know he wasn't soft even game imithed that, bang em smurf, domination, fu*k sake man 50 and preme knew each other and you must of been fairly gangsta to know him and the snitchin was a rumor started by irv gotti because g unit finished murder inc.
you dont hear people from games hood sayin they dont know him or recalling storys, his own brother knows he aint a gangsta and never was, you actually hear storys of 50 in the hood i.e when he smacked ja rule before he blew up when his friend nicked ja's chain or when he actually did make 100'000 from dealing and had a benz at 18 and game was on change of heart then:D. 50 pulled a gun on p diddy while he use to ghostwrite for him. they called him boo boo because he was out hustlin at 11 or 12 years of age etc so ye when it comes to being real as far as gangsta rappers go he is the real deal along with a few others but game is not in that bracket.
there all storys we hear and same cant be said for game other than he was on change of heart and was a stripper, that sure explains the butterfly tatt aswell as being soft as fu*k on change of heart, a gangsta is not something you become over night.
can you get me something like this to backup games fantasy lifestyle. good watch too.
games own brother saying he's fake.
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Hugh Cream wrote: »im assuming he meant of those who rap about the life style,which ones actually lived it,and which ones are fake.
i think its about the life style.
your spot on man that's exactly what i meant...just to get a conversation going. and as far as the game vs 50 thing...simple they've both done there share of dirt...and both exaggerated it too...neither of them are studio gangsters...but they've exaggerated there past to get where they are...stop getting at each other over it.Jimmy Iovine wrote: »I'm amazed this thread has gotten this far. I don't think it should make a difference if they're gangster or not.
My favourite artist is Chamillionaire. I don't care that he's never been arrested, doesn't do drugs or drink alcohol and doesn't curse. He makes good music and that's what I look at.
I'd nearly go as far as respecting someone like Rick Ross for the way he handled the whole CO thing. He's come back bigger and flasher than ever. His new mixtape is pretty good. Some nice songs on it
Cham's an unreal artist
....he got some of the smartest punchlines and doesn't need to swear to make good music...a true artist
Like i said about Ross...hes a S.G....but no doubt the musics good 0 -
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look at you, hugh cream was 100 per cent right about you, you just have to get the last sneaky say or jab in everything. I taught you said your piece here with this thread? you started it and got proven wrong and your still here.I'd say 85% of well-known rappers are full of shít, tbh. I'd have cared about whether thay were 'Gangsta' about 4 years ago when I wa 12, but honestly, who gives a shít?
obviously some people do mate, if your going to be a gangsta rapper i think you have to come with a genuine story,history of being a gangsta or gangsta like and be real, thats the way it used to be thats what drew me to this genre of hip hop.
your 16 mate right going by 4 years ago when i was 12, iv seen and being around when gangsta rap came to the fore front so back up, your growing up with comercilsed rubbish so thats explains you having an opinion like that, you would of had to be actively listening to hip hop in the 90's to know where im coming from and i highly doubt you were bumpin gangsta rap when your mammy was wipin your arse.
we all know its gets far fetched my the media or who ever else but in some cases some rappers are actually real and had a real backround.
i judge rappers by there music 99 per cent of people do so dont talk about like your the only one, but gangsta raps a different lane and for me although they might make good music and i would be the 1st to listen to it, it doesnt escape the fact he/she might be fake and therefor a studio gangsta, all im saying was the likes of game must of turned into a superblood gangbangin gangsta overnight because he sure as ****k wasnt gangsta in them videos.
it doesnt make you imature to judge a gangsta rapper by his lifestyle anyone who thinks otherwise doesnt fully understand what gangsta rap is about and why it was started.0 -
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