JJ Trek and The Laurentian System

cyrusdvirus · 18-01-2011 8:56am #1

Ok, i know that it was suggested that most of Star Fleet was in the Laurentian system after the Klingons were defeated in their engagement with the Narada, but was it ever actually confirmed?

norrie rugger · 18-01-2011 10:39am

gatecrash wrote: »

Ok, i know that it was suggested that most of Star Fleet was in the Laurentian system after the Klingons were defeated in their engagement with the Narada, but was it ever actually confirmed?

Did they not say it repeatedly on-screen?

cyrusdvirus · 18-01-2011 10:40am

norrie rugger wrote: »

Did they not say it repeatedly on-screen?

Nope, just said the main part of the fleet was there, but not why

norrie rugger · 18-01-2011 10:53am

gatecrash wrote: »

Nope, just said the main part of the fleet was there, but not why

Ah I get ya

Kiith · 18-01-2011 11:46am

According to Memory Alpha...

Memory Alpha wrote:

The comic book Star Trek: Nero suggests the Laurentian system is the location of Rura Penthe, and the Federation responded to a Klingon distress call after Nero destroyed 47 Klingon warbirds.

cyrusdvirus · 18-01-2011 12:25pm

Kiith wrote: »

According to Memory Alpha...

would that be regarded as canon?

norrie rugger · 18-01-2011 1:33pm

gatecrash wrote: »

would that be regarded as canon?

I imagine that many people would not regard the entrire movie as canon:pac:

Goldstein · 18-01-2011 2:10pm

The Enterprise was originally planning to go all the way to the Laurentian system to rendezvous with the bulk of the fleet before going all the way back to Earth to tackle the Narada.

Would it not have made more sense for the fleet to high-tail it back to Earth and for the Enterprise to intercept and join up with them en route?

Vulcan destroyed. Earth about to be annihilated . No biggie.

Clearly they had bigger fish to fry in the Laurentian system.

norrie rugger · 18-01-2011 2:39pm

Goldstein wrote: »

The Enterprise was originally planning to go all the way to the Laurentian system to rendezvous with the bulk of the fleet before going all the way back to Earth to tackle the Narada.

Would it not have made more sense for the fleet to high-tail it back to Earth and for the Enterprise to intercept and join up with them en route?

Vulcan destroyed. Earth about to be annihilated . No biggie.

Clearly they had bigger fish to fry in the Laurentian system.

Spock had given Earth up, as a lost cause, at that stage.
I took from that action that the main fleet could not get back to Earth before the Narada. As could explain why they did not arrive before the Enterprise did her actions

Cookie_Monster · 18-01-2011 5:31pm

they were probably all out there getting extra chrome, gigantic breweries and bulgy nacelles fitted in readiness for the next film :rolleyes:

Johnny Storm · 18-01-2011 7:15pm

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

... gigantic breweries ...:rolleyes:

I thinks that's where NASA has been going wrong all these years.......

Goldstein · 18-01-2011 7:25pm

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

they were probably all out there getting extra chrome, gigantic breweries and bulgy nacelles fitted in readiness for the next film :rolleyes:

All 4 of them I assume?

47:52

Captain Pike wrote:

"Diver auxilliary power from port nacelles to forward shields"

Um, port nacelles....................................?

That's how inept the writing was.

Cookie_Monster · 18-01-2011 7:46pm

Goldstein wrote: »

All 4 of them I assume?

or 1, 2, 3...

Um, port nacelles....................................?

That's how inept the writing was.

port nacelle/s came up frequently enough over the years

Goldstein · 18-01-2011 8:02pm

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

or 1, 2, 3...

port nacelle/s came up frequently enough over the years

Don't get me wrong, I've no quarrel with port nacelle.

However unless you're booting around in a constellation or prometheus class or something similar:

Port nacelles in the case of the Enterprise is just stupid.

Ahh the Prometheus (VOY:Message in a Bottle)...that was cool.

Cookie_Monster · 19-01-2011 6:35pm

Goldstein wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I've no quarrel with port nacelle.

However unless you're booting around in a constellation or prometheus class or something similar:

true, I'm sure the reference was port nacelle, but was there not some reference or other to the fact that the Ent D has port nacelles as technically each nacelle has two set of coils?
Maybe that was something else though

:o

It was always the port nacelle too causing the trouble, getting fired upon or exploding. Starboard ones never seemed to give any trouble

cyrusdvirus · 20-01-2011 2:36pm

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

true, I'm sure the reference was port nacelle, but was there not some reference or other to the fact that the Ent D has port nacelles as technically each nacelle has two set of coils?
Maybe that was something else though :o

It was always the port nacelle too causing the trouble, getting fired upon or exploding. Starboard ones never seemed to give any trouble

Cause and Effect...

Didn't the Bozeman collide with the Starboard nacelle(s) of the Ent-D

helimachoptor · 21-01-2011 11:13am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

true, I'm sure the reference was port nacelle, but was there not some reference or other to the fact that the Ent D has port nacelles as technically each nacelle has two set of coils?
Maybe that was something else though :o

It was always the port nacelle too causing the trouble, getting fired upon or exploding. Starboard ones never seemed to give any trouble

gatecrash wrote: »

Cause and Effect...

Didn't the Bozeman collide with the Starboard nacelle(s) of the Ent-D

They use "port" more often than "starboard" as its simple easier to say. Also the bozeman hit the starboard nacelle.

cyrusdvirus · 21-01-2011 11:14am

helimachoptor wrote: »

They use "port" more often than "starboard" as its simple easier to say. Also the bozeman hit the starboard nacelle.

Yes, in other words!!

Johnny Storm · 22-01-2011 12:16pm

"affirmative" you mean

Cookie_Monster · 22-01-2011 2:54pm

Johnny Storm wrote: »

"affirmative" you mean

Indeed, (number one)

Goldstein · 23-01-2011 1:48am

ALL HANDS ABANDON SHIP!! REPEAT ALL HANDS ABAN...

fazeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

BOOM!

I wouldn't argue with anyone who called that the best ep ever.

Are you watching too much trek when you're out driving and something unexpected happens, instead of brakes, you think: Decompress main shuttle bay, the explosive force may blow us clear?

Klingon Hamlet · 06-02-2011 1:31pm

In answer to the Laurentian System/fleet/Earth/Enterprise conundrum...

The majority of the fleet were out at the system, however I don't believe that it was related to the 47 Klingon ships being destroyed. uhura mentioned it in passing (!) to her Orion buddy (whilst "mouth-breather" Kirk lurked under the bed). This in turn led Kirk to mention it again on the bridge of the Enterprise, fighting to get his point across. Uhura backed him up,which clearly implied Pike was unaware of the incident---which, in old Trek, would be sacrilege. Why would old Uhura keep such a serious event secret from the Fleet? Anyways...

As to the whole goto meet the fleet/goto Earth issue, the writers obviously had to have the Jason vs Goliath situation...I would propose that the squadron sent to Vulcan were the fastest ships, and all but one, the Enterprise, were destroyed. If she were to wait for the other (older? less advanced? slower?) ships to join her, they would take longer. PLUS Scotty managed to squeeze an extra warp factor out of her (warp 4) so she far outstripped her sister ships.

In fairness this film followed the rules of logic very loosely, but then again the most successful Treks did the same. II had a terraforming superweapon and a genetically enhanced supersoldier army that could control a vessel 300 years ahead of them. IV had time travel by slingshotting round a sun. VI insisted a moon could create a shockwave expansive enough to nearly decimate a vessel light-years away.

Despite what hardcore Trekkers may claim, the most successful Treks have been sci-fi. The more sci-factual films/episodes sucked.

Kiith · 06-02-2011 5:24pm

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

In fairness this film followed the rules of logic very loosely, but then again the most successful Treks did the same. II had a terraforming superweapon and a genetically enhanced supersoldier army that could control a vessel 300 years ahead of them. IV had time travel by slingshotting round a sun. VI insisted a moon could create a shockwave expansive enough to nearly decimate a vessel light-years away.

1 had Starships. 2 had Starships. 3 had Starships. 4 had Starships. 5 had Starships. 6 had Starships. 7 had Starships. 8 had Starships. 9 had Starships. 10 had Starships. 11 had Starships.

They all loosely follow the rules of logic :P

JJ Trek and The Laurentian System

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