How much should or would you expect a guy to spend on an Engagement Ring?

listermint

The fact remains folks,

That ANYONE who thinks that there should be set rules around how much to spend or bigger is better or more is cooler, or i would be totally like morto like scarls if Dhurbla or Fiacra saw me with that cheap tat on... Has their head in a celtic tiger sense of entitlement cloud.

You need a good crack up side the head or else the faint realisation that the good time (well they werent that good) they are over. Your up there with some of the mad cronies who got us in a lovely mess with there exotic credit fueled spending sprees of excess and lavish muck.

Jesus i could probably sell you pig ****e and tell you it was caviar.

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.....




There is more to life than showing how big your gonads are with a hunk of Sierra Leone on your moths finger.

af_thefragile

listermint wrote: »

I would like to subscribe to your vagina sized bragging newsletter.





i think your on to something here.

Why is it that large penis on a man is supposed to be a good thing and small penis bad.
While large vagina on a woman is a bad thing while small vagina good...

Double standards!!! :mad:

starlit

Monty Burnz wrote: »

You are hanging around with the cast of Fade Street.

Maybe I am but I'm from that generation hard not be like that when I've grown up in that world. I'm 25. Being materalistic with people I hang out with comes to bags and accessories and things like that. I'm not bothered by status or cars or how much cars/houses are or anything like that. A normal standard of living is all I am after enough to survive in this world.

No it doesn't. It shows a ring. Behaviour shows commitment and love.

Of course it does but marriage and commitment and love and showing it there is a lot more to them than just a ring/wedding. Its the whole relationship and how it has been built up and and how the couple have lasted along with communication/trust/loyality/friendship/love/compatibility in all aspects.

Why not? Should the price of the honeymoon matter? The price of the wedding? The price of a new tennis racquet? Does this rule only apply to the engagment ring?.

Well is it not where you go that matters not just the cost of it? It would be worth having gone to the place before but just to a more romantic hotel for wedding nuptials. The couple are suppose to enjoy it have a nice time and have a relaxing holiday depending whether they want a sun holiday/ski/adventure or just an ordinary holiday its up to them. They don't necessary have to go somewhere exotic or nearer to home or nearer to europe or somewhere out of this world or popular. Its up to the couple to choose like wise and really thing couples should decide between themselves not just one person or be one sided its a bit unfair for the other person just go along with it to please their partner, both partners should feel ok with and be happy about it. Well not just engagement rings other things when weddings are concerned like the dress/flowers/reception etc and anything like things for a baby when bridge is crossed.

A cliché, but true. So why do you want an expensive ring?

Ever think of someone handcrafting a ring? Unique? Maybe something on to newbridge or something like that? Would you not take pride in it? Would a ring not prove to her man that she loves him ever lastingly other than showing it through emotion etc, as well as wearing it every day just to prove that? I wouldn't necessarily want an expensive ring. Its quality I rather see in a ring regardless of price! It doesn't have to be overly expensive like.

Children are expensive. Houses are expensive. Cars are expensive. Nursing homes are expensive. A ring will not be the most expensive thing unless you are looking at the million euro bracket.

While courting maybe and before getting married I meant when taking into account that a ring be the most expensive thing you buy her before you marry. After that of course cars/houses/children can be expensive that's expected but they don't get really expensive until after you get married depending if you have all that before you marry thats a different story with impending costs.

Quality presumably means what the jeweller charges you? What do you know about the craftsmanship involved? I know nothing. More expensive does not mean better quality.
Yes, that and where you buy it. The jeweller's markup is about 100% (i.e. he will charge you twice what he bought it for)

So, branding might have a part to play, if you go to a reputable jeweller you might get a decent ring. Why get a ring that will tarnish after a while or a few years even, it wouldn't be worth the girl wearing it. Its a part of you and her can't it be seen as something special rather than an object but seen as a symbol if nothing else?

Firstly, it will look cheap if it looks cheap. I've seen watches that cost hundreds of thousands that look cheap because they are smeared with diamonds (link).
Secondly - even if it doesn't look like an expensive ring, how shallow are you? How shallow are your friends and family? Will they think less of you if they think your ring cost less than €5000?

My family not so much but some of my relations take great pride in that sort of thing. Money and property as well as extravagant goods are a big thing for them. I can be shallow but a different type of shallow. Money is no object. I have cut back on my own spending and the likes and get things that are just as nice that are cheap and not necessary expensive but when it comes to quality and comfort there is a lot to be said for that and how long the item lasts!

listermint

af_thefragile wrote: »

Why is it that large penis on a man is supposed to be a good thing and small penis bad.
While large vagina on a woman is a bad thing while small vagina good...

Double standards!!! :mad:

Hmmm, never thought of it like that.






This conversation needs more weed.

listermint

snuggles285 wrote: »

My family not so much but some of my relations take great pride in that sort of thing. Money and property as well as extravagant goods are a big thing for them. I can be shallow but a different type of shallow. Money is no object. I have cut back on my own spending and the likes and get things that are just as nice that are cheap and not necessary expensive but when it comes to quality and comfort there is a lot to be said for that and how long the item lasts!

Well tbh alot of people got like that, why? because they were allowed to. Not necessarily because they worked there ass of or anything. They just all bought into this 'fake wealth' blowing around. Were everything is got but nothing is paid for. Reality check !!

PrincessLola

snuggles285 is getting you guys so upset its quite funny:pac:

Personally I see no difference between a woman wanting a rich man and a man wanting a a hot woman. So don't get too judgemental.

starlit

Seriously I would not expect the guy to blow all his wages on a ring, I would even pay my way or split it down the middle if the ring was what I wanted I get I wouldn't ask for much else and honestly paying for a ring around the 1,000 euro isn't going to break the bank by any means. If you convert that to dollar's its not that much. If you want a decent ring, you be expected to pay between 1,000 to 2,000 dollars! One things for sure I'd like a quiet, small wedding and exclusive to just family and friends.

Novella wrote: »

But you're the one who wants an expensive ring, no? So obviously price does mean something to you, since you're arguing towards flashing the cash.

I'd like a decent quality ring maybe expensive not so cheap but doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg like there is a happy medium if its worth buying a decent ring I be all for it.. Price does but its a more expensive price usually means good quality?? I mean to say how would you compare something from pennys to something in karen millen?? I don't like the whole flashing the cash part. I think showing something off that is exquisite is nice to have and something to remember the relationship/partner by. An engagement ring is suppose to last a life time no?

I don't think a ring does show love. I think that's such a load of rubbish. It's a ring, it's a nice gesture, but anyone can save money and go buy one. Love is way more than that.

Its a symbol of love and a nice gester ya. But you can drive a hard bargin if you really wanted to by getting a decent quality ring. Some Jewellers will do that for you say for updating settings/carats.

Love doesn't have a price tag because it isn't about money! I would never want to be bought a ring that would be the most expensive thing my boyfriend/future husband would ever buy. I don't care about quality, diamonds, whether other people might think it looks 'common'... There are much more important things in life. What I would be concerned about is the quality of the relationship, not carats.

Money is not my thing its quality both in the ring and the relationship!

A more expensive ring isn't gonna 'carry' memories better than a cheaper one. A person with a less expensive ring isn't gonna have less wonderful memories.

Of course its not but is part of memories to last a life time through thick and thin...in sickness and in health, for rich or poor etc.

Dudess wrote: »

Sigh...

Jeez, all the talk of gold-digging women used to annoy me as it is not applicable to the females I know, but wow... this thread is one hell of a grim eye-opener...

Lol at the "the more expensive the ring, the higher a level of commitment" sentiments too.

I for one is not a gold digger. Some women thrive on that...the princess and the wag types but not me as a joe soap. I'm just materialistic doesn't matter what price its material goods I'm a culprit for can't help it. I don't care how much a guy earns as long as he is earning something and can have a decent standard of living and look after me. The basics is all I need or ever want. Whats one thing an expensive ring than anything else. I'm not one to buy high street much, I'm a pennys kind of girl and I rarely ever splash on anything expensive but I would often buy things of good quality of various prices and would not expect a future fianceé too do that for me just for the sake of a ring. I might think differently when that time comes maybe I might not care if he made the ring himself/is a toy ring/out of a barn brack even!?

Dudess

PrincessLola wrote: »

Personally I see no difference between a woman wanting a rich man and a man wanting a a hot woman. So don't get too judgemental.

Oh if you're shallower than a worm's grave, fine, but don't presume to speak for all women...

Dudess

Terri26 wrote: »

Hellooooooooooo Oisín, how are you doin'!!!!!!

Sweet Christ...

Agricola

Women who want / expect extravagant rings are like men who want extravagant cars. Its just all about bragging. There really isnt a problem as long as these same people manage to pair off. They should be very happy together in their materialistic world.
Id much prefer to spend a couple of grand on a great holiday that the girl and I would really enjoy, rather than blow it on a feckin finger ornament. Im sure theres a few women out there who would agree with that.

starlit

I don't want a rich man! He could be poor for all I care. I'm happy to pay my way like and be independent of a man. Love or money I choose love. If it came to meals/drinks/cinema and things like that I would want the expenses shared equally. The whole buming off people is just plain stupid.

starlit

PrincessLola wrote: »

snuggles285 is getting you guys so upset its quite funny:pac:

Personally I see no difference between a woman wanting a rich man and a man wanting a a hot woman. So don't get too judgemental.

I say I have a few posters' knickers in a twist I say?!

Bunny Buster

MLH1 wrote: »

For €1000 tops

Wait until October and you will get one in a Halloween Brack for a couple of Euros!!:P:P

OPENROAD

PrincessLola wrote: »

snuggles285 is getting you guys so upset its quite funny:pac:

Personally I see no difference between a woman wanting a rich man and a man wanting a a hot woman. So don't get too judgemental.

Surely beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

donfers

PrincessLola wrote: »

snuggles285 is getting you guys so upset its quite funny:pac:

Personally I see no difference between a woman wanting a rich man and a man wanting a a hot woman. So don't get too judgemental.

garbage!

do women not want hot men then?


everyone wants someone they are attracted to and who they can have a laugh with (personality/intelligence etc)

anything else and your motives are rightfully questioned

amazing how equality goes out the window and there is no campaign for change fromt the feminist mob and "sure, 'tis tradition" when the issue benefits women

imagine using the "sure 'tis tradition" defense to make your missus cook and clean every day or never go to work

Tigger

chicken fingers wrote: »

Ridiculous. I will pick her up a nice 1.5-2 carat round cut platinum or white gold carat ring, tasteful, durable(!), not tacky and I will spend 1000$ or 1500$ and she will love it.

Anyways I

Where will you get 1.5 -2 carats for that?

AnneElizabeth

As little as possible. I personally hate rings - I know several people who've lost their fingers due to catching rings in door handles :S
I'd rather one from a barm brack! Cheap and breakable.

Maddison

My sons dad proposed to me and as I was pregnant at the time we knew spending a fortune wasnt realistic, I picked out a cheapo 50 Euro ring....a few years later he spent a couple of hundred on a new one for me...I preferred the 1st one though as It was worth more sentimentally. Unfortunately we broke up after 7 years but If he would have me back he could propose with a lucky bag ring & I would be as happy as larry.

Monty Burnz

PrincessLola wrote: »

snuggles285 is getting you guys so upset its quite funny:pac:

Personally I see no difference between a woman wanting a rich man and a man wanting a a hot woman. So don't get too judgemental.

Then you have no problem with middle aged western men moving to poor countries to marry cute young women? Or are you a hypocrite?

argosy2006

50 k min

PCPhoto

argosy2006 wrote: »

50 k min

thats great coming from someone with ARGOS as part of their username !!

Mind44

I'd prefer a 52" widescreen TV to a stupid ring. Throw in a nice TV stand and I'll even go down on him on the ol' honeymoon.

Irish_Elect_Eng

The price paid for any engagement ring has as many variables as the couple, their relationship and their financial situation. But being either a tight fisted lad or a greedy lass is a bad way to starts any engagement, marriage or life together. If it becomes a big issue for a couple, they have deeper issues.

Personally I spent every penny my Visa would let me the day that I bought my wifes ring, about 2 months wages at the time, but I was badly paid :-). It was a nice ring, but not spectacular, but she would have been happy with less or more, she only cared that I had asked her to marry me.

Pretty_Pistol

Put a Hula Hoop on my finger and I'd be happy. Seriously though I'd feel guilty having him spend 1,000+ on a ring. I know a girl who said it has to be at least 8,000. She is that type of girl. If the guy agrees to spend that much that's his choice.

OPENROAD

Irish_Elect_Eng wrote: »

The price paid for any engagement ring has as many variables as the couple, their relationship and their financial situation. But being either a tight fisted lad or a greedy lass is a bad way to starts any engagement, marriage or life together. If it becomes a big issue for a couple, they have deeper issues.

Personally I spent every penny my Visa would let me the day that I bought my wifes ring, about 2 months wages at the time, but I was badly paid :-). It was a nice ring, but not spectacular, but she would have been happy with less or more, she only cared that I had asked her to marry me.

But you could afford it I take it?

krudler

AnneElizabeth wrote: »

As little as possible. I personally hate rings - I know several people who've lost their fingers due to catching rings in door handles :S
I'd rather one from a barm brack! Cheap and breakable.

I'd say 99% of the population doesnt know one person who's had their finger cut off from catching a ring in a door handle, you know several?

must know a lot of idiots.

starlit

An engagement ring is a life long investment, how many engagement rings would a girl have in her lifetime only very few depending whether she changes her ring now and again and updates it or happens to get married again. What's one ring to just a couple of holidays? Its nice to have a nice decent ring and like it and wear it everyday but holidays come and go, some are good some are not. Whats a couple of holidays here and there abroad now and again which would you prefer to have for a lifetime? You can only have so many holidays like and still just have the one ring like!

jimmycrackcorm

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

isnt it meant to be a months wages?

Only get engaged when you're in the dole then...

OPENROAD

snuggles285 wrote: »

An engagement ring is a life long investment, how many engagement rings would a girl have in her lifetime only very few depending whether she changes her ring now and again and updates it or happens to get married again. What's one ring to just a couple of holidays? Its nice to have a nice decent ring and like it and wear it everyday but holidays come and go, some are good some are not. Whats a couple of holidays here and there abroad now and again which would you prefer to have for a lifetime? You can only have so many holidays like and still just have the one ring like!

You buy a ring you can comfortably afford I would have thought, same goes for the wedding, holidays etc.....

psycho-hope

wouldnt bother me how much he spent tbh, only thing would be i dont want a diamond ring, which i guess would make it a bit cheaper for whoever i marry:D

Sibylla

With the current economic climate people can't afford to just splash 10k on an engagement ring. I know a couple who want a huge expensive wedding and are prepared to wait until they can either borrow/save for it, In realistic terms it's going to take them about five years before they can even think of it not to mention the pressure is putting a strain on them. If they had a small wedding they could do it soon like they want too. Engagement
rings should not be about the price or the size of the rock if they are there's definitely a
problem.

OPENROAD

Sibylla wrote: »

With the current economic climate people can't afford to just splash 10k on an engagement ring. I know a couple who want a huge expensive wedding and are prepared to wait until they can either borrow/save for it, In realistic terms it's going to take them about five years before they can even think of it not to mention the pressure is putting a strain on them. If they had a small wedding they could do it soon like they want too. Engagement
rings should not be about the price or the size of the rock if they are there's definitely a
problem.

Could people really afford to even in good economic times?

Sibylla

OPENROAD wrote: »

Could people really afford to even in good economic times?

Actually good point but could people really afford most of their indulgences then? I think now the difference is people are more aware, have less disposable income and in general seem to be watching their spending. I think it's for the better 10k on a ring sounds crazy to me.

OPENROAD

Sibylla wrote: »

Actually good point but could people really afford most of their indulgences then? I think now the difference is people are more aware, have less disposable income and in general seem to be watching their spending. I think it's for the better 10k on a ring sounds crazy to me.

Agree and thats the point really, reading some of the points on this thread I have to wonder have people actually learnt any lessons.

Absolutely nothing wrong buying a 10k+ ring if you can easily afford it and its not going to impact in any way on your ability to pay your mortgage, kids etc... You purchase what you can afford and if the bride is put out, you are with the wrong person imo

The Highwayman

History of engagement rings

Betrothal rings were used during Roman times, but weren't generally revived in the Western world until the 13th century. The first well-documented use of a diamond ring to signify engagement was by the Archduke Maximilian of Austria in imperial court of Vienna in 1477, upon his betrothal to Mary of Burgundy.
Before the 20th century, other types of betrothal gifts were common. Before the end of the 19th century, the bride-to-be frequently received a sewing thimble rather than an engagement ring. This practice was particularly common among religious groups that shunned jewelry. Engagement rings didn't become standard in the West until the end of the 19th century, and diamond rings didn't become common until the 1930s. Now, 80% of American women are offered a diamond ring to signify engagement.

Diamonds are NOT that rare the price is kept artificially high by companys like De Beers. Where they only allow a certain amount on to the market every year and stock pile tonnes of the things. Its all a clever marketing ploy and you all just suck up, like a lump of carbon really means something!:rolleyes:

They have been marketed as the must have for stupid one upmanship that so many of you ladies go in for. Just another example of sad materialism.

Tayla

I'm not really into jewellery so I wouldn't care if he bought the cheapest ring he could find

watna

missgroovy21 wrote: »

Its not the amount that you spend that matters its what you think she will like that counts!!!! Make sure you know her taste first....and ask permission from her family....us girls are old fashioned in that respect...well i am!!! If u wanna get the ring yourself take a ring she already has and get it another cm or 2 bigger.....bring a friend of hers or a family member if your not sure....good luck!!!!

As Dudess said - maybe you are old fashioned. I'm certainly not. I told my fiancee he was not to ask for my Dad's permission. It's not up to him who I marry. He told my Dad I wouldn't let him ask as well and my Dad laughed and said that sounded like me!

Darlughda wrote: »

I would be so delighted that the man I loved wanted to marry me, I wouldn't give a rats' ass if the ring was from the Hallo'ween barn brak.

Just as long as it didn't belong to his doomed mother who had a horrible marriage :eek: alá Kate & William....

I just got engaged and my fiancee bought me a €40 plain white gold ring to propose with. He's going to give me his mother's engagement ring which is currently sitting in a vault somewhere so he'll have to sort out collecting it some time soon. I haven't seen it and have no idea what it is like which a lo of people seemed very concerned about but to me it's all about the meaning behind it. His mum died in a car accident when he was younger but unlike Charlies and Diana his parents were happily married at the time. Other people have been shocked that I'd wear the ring as they think it is bad luck and can't understand how I don't want him to buy me one. We don't have a lot of money and couldn't have afforded a big expensive ring anyway. This one has a lot of meaning and he is honoured I'm going to wear it. To be honest, I'm actually really nervous about wearing it in case I lose it. Wouldn't that be awful?! My grandmother also left me her wedding ring so I'm going to wear that and not buy one. The onl]y ring we'll need to buy is his!

Funnily enough, my first day back at work after getting engaged is tomorrow and I'm dreading all the "let's see the ring" business. A) I don't have it yet, I'm wearing a plain band (which I actually love) and the ring he is giving me is personal and I don't want people judging it for the size and how much he spend. How shallow is that?

I also want to get him an engagement thing as the man doesn't get anything. Does anyone else think that's unfair? He already has a good watch and won't wear any other jewellery so I'm thinking of surprising him with a PS3 and a voucher saying he can play as much as he wants without me bitching at him!

MagicSean

sashafierce wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

Is she single?

alwaysadub

I'd want him to spend whatever he could afford. I'm not into jewellary anyway and if i thought i'd a 10k ring sitting on my finger i'd be afraid to wear it! So a ring worth a few hundred would be more than enough for me. There's much better things to be spending money on. I've heard of people taking out loans to pay for engagement rings, it's crazy.

curlzy

In defense of MissGroovy I would like my BF to ask my father's permission to ask me to marry him, yeah I know it has sexist overtones but it's a very old tradition and it's more about respect for the father in question than treating the girl as property. At the end of the day if my dad said no my BF would laugh, I'd say we all would. I think it's just a sign of respect really.

General Zod

RachaelVO wrote: »

They are legit and they will have all the relevant certs for their diamonds etc;

Haw, relevant certs in the diamond industry....

watna

watna wrote: »

I also want to get him an engagement thing as the man doesn't get anything. Does anyone else think that's unfair? He already has a good watch and won't wear any other jewellery so I'm thinking of surprising him with a PS3 and a voucher saying he can play as much as he wants without me bitching at him!

That's a pity, my usual suggestions would be a watch or a plain band for him
A ps3 sounds good!


snuggles: Please don't say "it's my generation", I'm 25 and I wouldn't be coming out with half of what you did... neither would any of my friends


It really is funny to see the history of engagement rings and how effective de beers advertising was.
if you really want a diamond go artificial!

Swampy

Alot of cheap asses out there. If you can afford to spend a good bit, do it. Just spend what you can afford. I'm my opinion it's not worth skimping on as it will be worn for a lifetime.

MagicMarker

I'd make one out of 2nd hand tin foil.

smares

Whatever he can afford would suit me fine. My friend went to New York especially for the ring as it was cheaper it still cost about 7000 and half the time she does not wear it she is afraid she will damage it so what was the point!
I think there is too much competition between woman with engagement rings,once i liked the ring i wouldn't care how much it cost!

prinz

I got the engagement ring, her wedding band, and my wedding band (different styles) for less than €1,000. Look great and still in perfect condition a year and a half after purchase. A lot of people have tried to guess what the engagement ring cost and nobody has come close.

common sense brigade

Mine was 500.00 Euro. i admired it walking by a shop and my now Husband took note. We were only dating 6 months and marriage was no where on my mind so it was a huge surprise. love the ring and its priceless to me.

knuth

While giving her your "one months" wage, why not add to the moment by including the mortgage arrears in the ring box. That'll certainly add to the surprise!

Dravokivich

5k on a fu¢king ring?

...think of all the coke and hookers you can get for that!

phasers

I've decided for my engagement that the fella will have to pay my car insurance. I'll have the disk laminated and wear it around my neck. Beautiful.