How much should or would you expect a guy to spend on an Engagement Ring?

sensibleken

gcgirl wrote: »

What's wrong with cubrix zurcona(spellings bad I know)

Or anything else for that matter. Personally I dont like diamonds and neither does my OH. Diamonds seem to be a default position. Id much rather put a bit of thought into it and create something personal and if a stone was going to be included I think there are better ones that diamond.

Hannibal Smith

I didn't think there was a rule to it, I just thought it had to be pretty...mine is anyway

I have to laugh at all these people who spend fortunes on their engagement rings getting them specially made and stuff when in no time they're gonna be covered in baby puke

Hannibal Smith

sensibleken wrote: »

Or anything else for that matter. Personally I dont like diamonds and neither does my OH. Diamonds seem to be a default position. Id much rather put a bit of thought into it and create something personal and if a stone was going to be included I think there are better ones that diamond.

i think the idea for a diamond stems from it's durability?

Hannibal Smith

Bubs99 wrote: »

I know a couple that have been together for over 10 years (only in late 20's now) and have a house etc. but the guy wont/cant propose because the girl wants a ring that costs THIRTY THOUSAND EURO!!!
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what a lovely girl:eek:

Hannibal Smith

Hannibal Smith wrote: »

i think the idea for a diamond stems from it's durability?

It stems from heavy de beers advertising

Napper Hawkins

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Anyone who has "expectations" in relation to what their partner will buy for them is pretty deluded, and creepy, and shallow. Anyone who cares about the price of gifts anywhere near as much as the sentiment involved is severely emotionally underdeveloped, in my opinion.

This x1000.

starlit

Tayla wrote: »

I'm not really into jewellery so I wouldn't care if he bought the cheapest ring he could find

Neither do I. I don't wear much jewellery or wear that often except a watch and a ring I had since childhood. An engagement ring is sentimental though, its a once off kind of thing though can't people see that though. Its nice to have something you can look at day in and day out and still like 'till you are old and grey! I'm sure guys like to buy a decent ring if it means bagging a girl? Would he not want to make her happy what ever kind of ring she wants regardless of price should the price matter if the price mattered too much then the relationship and marriage wouldn't be worth it if its all about money it doesn't have too be but having nice quality things is though.

Unfortunately I grew up where material goods was a done thing.
Really? Didn't think that was the case bluewolf thought it was the same story for those of our ages. I see girls mad to marry like at 24 or have babies that are planned that sort of thing scares me I'm not mature enough or ready for that sort of thing.

I wouldn't be bothered either way if my future fianceé asked permission for hand in marriage, it be romantic and traditional but to be honest I wouldn't want the fuss. I wouldn't expect him too. He be asking me why should he have to ask permission other than me?

I'm not in a relationship so can't speak for an OH. I probably view things differently when I would have an OH that I could have a future with and possibly marry. Its something that I won't really need to think about until nearer to my 30's. I had a vision I would marry in my late 20's really wanted that when I were younger but now that I've got older I'd rather wait until I'm my 30's just not ready to settle down yet. Any men I have met that did want to settle down with I ran a mile of cause I wasn't ready for it.

kelle

I have always been frugal, but I bought my own engagement ring - I bought the cheapest one I could find (£150 - hubby gave me the money a few weeks later) and guess what, it still looks good after 16 years. I didn't see the point in splashing out when we had a wedding to save up for, and a happy marriage means a hell of a lot more than an expensive ring.

daenerysstormborn3

The only thing I would expect of an engagement ring would be that it be yellow gold. The reason for this is that I wear a ring on my middle finger on my left hand that is yellow gold and a ring on my "ring" finger on my right hand that is yellow gold and I would just like them all to match. Whether the ring was bought for a tenner or ten thousand is irrelevant to me because the person giving it to me will be what I value most.

From my boyfriend's point of view, when talking about getting engaged he has always said he would have a ring made for me because one of his good friends makes jewellery and he would like something unique. If the ring is going to be a representation of our marriage it needs to mean something to both of us, so having it made by his friend and him having an input into its design would make it mean so much more to the both of us than a shop bought ring.

scarymoon1

minimum €5,000

Lumen

sensibleken wrote: »

i have friends who are silver smiths so id get one of them to make it for me

pikeybean22 wrote: »

From my boyfriend's point of view, when talking about getting engaged he has always said he would have a ring made for me because one of his good friends makes jewellery

...?

Duggy747

How much is an onion ring in McDonalds?

ntlbell

bluewolf wrote: »

It stems from heavy de beers advertising

They may have played a part in the x amount of wages malarky for sure, but I'm not sure it's de beers fault for peoples want for extravagance

Dravokivich

prinz wrote: »

I'd say if you spend 2k on any sort of ring you're a fúcking moron, unless you plan on selling it for 3k later.

So we've gone from an over inflated house markert to over inflating rings for re-sale...

:pac:

prinz

seanmc1980 wrote: »

Well i wouldn't say she'd turn it down but the thing will look crap, big ring with highly visable flaws and marks, cracks. i've seen there rocks they look terrible.

Highly visible? Like I said msot people give a ring a cursory glance and nothing more.

seanmc1980 wrote: »

not going to sell the ring either it's appraised for insurances purposes. can you understand that?

Yes I can. What I don't understand is people who like to inform others about a higher valuation. What relevance does it have? None whatsoever.

seanmc1980 wrote: »

if your finished being bitter and sad, i bid you adiue

Heh, yeah.

seanmc1980 wrote: »

you can say the same about anything, house, car, TV, clothes.

Generally speaking houses, cars, TV's etc. go up in price because they increase in worth/value/specifications etc. A ring on the other hand looks pretty. You could have two rings almost identical for vastly different prices, but both do the same job unless you are deliberately trying to tell them apart.

Again, I couldn't care less if someone has the money to spend €2,000, €20,000 or €200,000 on a ring. The stupidity begins when people talk about a minimum price a ring should/must be, or the conversation revolves around the cost. IMO the cost is for the purchaser/couple to know. It's nobody else's business, and that's what they got told when they asked myself or my OH.

seanmc1980 wrote: »

agreed but what if the nicest one cost more than you expected? would you refuse her it?

Yes. It's a gift. She should be aware of the financial position of the couple and have a realistic price range, if she can't accept that there's no hope tbh.

General Zod

seanmc1980 wrote: »

if your finished being bitter and sad, i bid you adiue

you're, adieu.

If you are going to look like a pompous ass, at least do it properly.

daenerysstormborn3

Lumen wrote: »

...?

pikeybean?? wtf is your problem you moron?

EDIT - Ah now that I have read your other posts in this thread I see what you're trying to imply.

My bf's friend studied under German Master Goldsmith Gabrielle Muller Hefter in Assisi, Italy and studied as an undergraduate student of Metalwork and Jewellery at Sheffield Hallam University. She was commissioned in 2000 to make a piece for the President of Ireland. And in 2008 she created a piece for British singer KT Tunstall for the Brit Awards, resulting later in a commission to create a wedding band for her husband. She has a shop in Cork and her jewellery is stocked in jewellery shops mainly in the south and south east and one or two shops in Dublin.

You seem to be trying to imply that all jewellery makers are "pikeys" (to use your word) which I don't understand, nor do I find amusing. Very small minded.

prinz

Dravokivich wrote: »

So we've gone from an over inflated house markert to over inflating rings for re-sale...:pac:

Bingo. My point exactly about people who looooove discussing how much their ring has appreciated in value.

starlit

prinz wrote: »

Bingo. My point exactly about people who looooove discussing how much their ring has appreciated in value.

You mean depreciated in value?

General Zod

snuggles285 wrote: »

You mean depreciated in value?

why would they love talking about how much less their ring is worth?

FreudianSlippers

snuggles285 wrote: »

You mean depreciated in value?

How? Diamonds, gold and platinum are all worth lots more than they were years ago.

prinz

snuggles285 wrote: »

You mean depreciated in value?

No.

Crucifix

Are synthetic diamond rings getting common yet? Supposedly their quite a bit cheaper, and lack some of the ethical concerns of natural diamonds

ntlbell

ntlbell wrote: »

They may have played a part in the x amount of wages malarky for sure, but I'm not sure it's de beers fault for peoples want for extravagance

He asked where did diamond come from as opposed to other stones, hence my answer

sensibleken

pixiebean22 wrote: »

You seem to be trying to imply that all jewellery makers are "pikeys" (to use your word) which I don't understand, nor do I find amusing. Very small minded.

Some people on this thread are small minded, biggoted people who would be too afraid to say something like that to peoples faces. No need to rise to to rise to their ignorant ramblings

prinz

pixiebean22 wrote: »

You seem to be trying to imply that all jewellery makers are "pikeys" (to use your word) which I don't understand, nor do I find amusing. Very small minded.

Or you know, that yourself and sensibleken are in fact a couple..... *whooosh*

pickarooney

feelingstressed wrote: »

Two months wage is the "rule" I believe

Around my age group I know a lot of engaged couples and I'm hearing good things about going to the source, Antwerp. Bring your haggling skills with you.
Irish jewelers need their markup so you can head to Antwerp, treat yourself to a weekend away and still save money

Screw Antwerp. Hitchhike to Sierra Leone and brave the marauding gangs of AK47-toting doped up children and mine the thing yourself. Prove you really love her because frankly, nothing says "my feelings towards you are distinctly average" than Belgium.

seanmc1980

prinz wrote: »

Highly visible? Like I said msot people give a ring a cursory glance and nothing more.
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Most women will look at the ring try it on do the 3 turn thing look more and hand it back. its peob the more jealous(who do you thing you are type) who do the clance and fake smile and change the subject. in a crazy world a girls friends would be delighte dto she them engaged and will look at the ring in dtail/admiration.

prinz wrote: »

Yes I can. What I don't understand is people who like to inform others about a higher valuation. What relevance does it have? None whatsoever. .

you dont see the point in telling a friend he can save a huge amount of money buying a ring outside ireland? informing people on the net that theres great value outide the country you live in? nice guy!

prinz wrote: »

Generally speaking houses, cars, TV's etc. go up in price because they increase in worth/value/specifications etc..

are you on drugs if anything a ring will hold value in the future more than any of there items? a car will lose 10k the min you drive it of the forecourt, TV is worth half if you sell it on ebay and we all know the nation of house price so i wont even go there.

prinz wrote: »

are deliberately trying to tell them apart...

would that not be the reason you would put the rings together and compare them. maybe i missed something??

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Again, I couldn't care less if someone has the money to spend €2,000, €20,000 or €200,000 on a ring. The stupidity begins when people talk about a minimum price a ring should/must be, or the conversation revolves around the cost. IMO the cost is for the purchaser/couple to know. It's nobody else's business, and that's what they got told when they asked myself or my OH..[/QUOTE]

i agree 100%

Snakeblood

ntlbell wrote: »

They may have played a part in the x amount of wages malarky for sure, but I'm not sure it's de beers fault for peoples want for extravagance

It pretty much is if they make diamonds an extravagance and spend a lot of money convincing people that the only fitting declaration of love is carbon, to the point where people have expectations of the cash value of the declaration.

liamw

For any women on this thread who "expect" an engagement ring worth thousands of euros, you are a selfish person who has been drugged through social conformity.

There are people literally starving to death only a few hours plane journey away from you, and you're upset becuase you can't show off your faboulous ring. It's pathetic.

General Zod

pickarooney wrote: »

Screw Antwerp. Hitchhike to Sierra Leone and brave the marauding gangs of AK47-toting doped up children and mine the thing yourself.

throw enough money at the local warlord and the ak47 toting kids will guard you as you dig out the mines with a JCB.

Johnny Bitte

X expected 3 months salary, minimum!! :eek:
And exactly what was I going to get in return worth that?

Some women need a good kick in the hole when it comes to rings and weddings.
Going insane trying to out spend other couples just so they can say they had x amount at the wedding or some ****.

Bill2673

liamw wrote: »

There are people literally starving to death only a few hours plane journey away from you, and you're upset becuase you can't show off your faboulous ring. It's pathetic.

Yep.....am sure you were thinking of that when you were buying your car/ house/ fancy jacket/ round of drinks for your mates.....

We could all point fingers.

stephendevlin

3 weeks dole ...

liamw

Bill2673 wrote: »

Yep.....am sure you were thinking of that when you were buying your car/ house/ fancy jacket/ round of drinks for your mates.....

We could all point fingers.

Agreed, but I don't start crying/complain about it.

prinz

seanmc1980 wrote: »

Most women will look at the ring try it on do the 3 turn thing look more and hand it back. its peob the more jealous(who do you thing you are type) who do the clance and fake smile and change the subject. in a crazy world a girls friends would be delighte dto she them engaged and will look at the ring in dtail/admiration.

Not been my experience...and no, it wasn't jealousy. Some people are just more interested in people than possessions, they look at the new ring and go back to chatting to the couple, not an Antiques Roadshow appraisal.

seanmc1980 wrote: »

are you on drugs if anything a ring will hold value in the future more than any of there items? a car will lose 10k the min you drive it of the forecourt, TV is worth half if you sell it on ebay and we all know the nation of house price so i wont even go there..

Again, unless you are planning on selling the ring at some stage that's irrelevant.

seanmc1980 wrote: »

...would that not be the reason you would put the rings together and compare them. maybe i missed something??

Exactly. Now what kind of person does that when their relative/friend shows them their new engagement ring?

ntlbell

Snakeblood wrote: »

It pretty much is if they make diamonds an extravagance and spend a lot of money convincing people that the only fitting declaration of love is carbon, to the point where people have expectations of the cash value of the declaration.

de beers don't make people stupid. they just cash in on thier stupidity.

dearg lady

Monty Burnz wrote: »

The Celtic Tiger sense of entitlement is still alive and well. Remember that anyone under 30 remembers nothing but good times up until around 1999 and crazy bubble times from 99 to 2008.

OT, but that is utter nonsense, generalisations. I'm under 30 and remember quite well how bad things were in the 80's and early 90's

snuggles285 wrote: »

An engagement ring is a life long investment, how many engagement rings would a girl have in her lifetime only very few depending whether she changes her ring now and again and updates it or happens to get married again. What's one ring to just a couple of holidays? Its nice to have a nice decent ring and like it and wear it everyday but holidays come and go, some are good some are not. Whats a couple of holidays here and there abroad now and again which would you prefer to have for a lifetime? You can only have so many holidays like and still just have the one ring like!

snuggles as I've read your posts it seems you're looking for quality more than just to say 'he spent X' on a ring, which isn't so unreasonable.

I don't wear rings so I never want an engagement ring at all. But in general I'm loath to spend large sums of money on anything. The thought of someone spending 5 or 10 thousand on a ring makes me slightly sick!

But, on the subject of holliers v. a ring I know what I'd prefer!! In general I get more pleasure out of experiences rather than things.

Tar.Aldarion

ideally 0 :pac:

I am a sucker for spending money on somebody but not something stupid like that. As for the people that want so much money spent on them, well generally I'm not going out with people like them anyway.

If somebody was giving me one I would accept any aul piece of crap, onion ring etc

G86

Would many women actually know to look at it how much it was? I know I wouldn't have a clue, nor would I give a sh!t tbh - well provided it didn't start rusting a week later:p

IMO, anything over 2k is a ridiculous amount of money to be spending on a ring. If you can afford it then fair enough, I doubt she'll be complaining , but there are some gorgeous rings you can get for half that even.

Moshimoshi

I can't see myself ever wanting an engagement ring. Though I'm not sure if my opinion is that relevant to the discussion because I just don't wear or even like rings (I like the aesthetics of a plain wedding band, but that's it).

De Dannan

MLH1 wrote: »

For €1000 tops

Because we are all supposed to be about equality these days
Why should the bloke have to pay for the ring ? or why dont you get him a ring too ?

Kylo Ren

OVER 9000

dubbie82

To be honest I would not be comfortable wearing a big expensive ring. I don't really wear rings at all so what is the point? I have a brooch that belonged to my gran and it's worth next to nothing but still holds a lot of sentimental value to me.
So I rather receive a ring/neclace etc that means something to my partner or something he put some thought in before he bought it.
And I can't believe how much money some people here want or have to spend on an engagement ring. Done a reality check lately? Money doesn't grow on trees anymore these days.
Putting the money towards a home and a future together means more to me.
But hey rich people have feelings too so if it makes you happy and you can afford a grand for a ring, sure go on, buy it. Whatever makes you happy.
Other question.... does the lady who expects a ring worth big money see the difference between a "cheap" one or a more expensive ring??

hondasam

liamw wrote: »

For any women on this thread who "expect" an engagement ring worth thousands of euros, you are a selfish person who has been drugged through social conformity.

There are people literally starving to death only a few hours plane journey away from you, and you're upset becuase you can't show off your faboulous ring. It's pathetic.

stop been so melodramatic, do you expect everyone to stop enjoying their life because of something happening in other countries.

If the man in any womans life wants to spend thousands on a ring for her that's their business.

hondasam

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

ideally 0 :pac:

I am a sucker for spending money on somebody but not something stupid like that. As for the people that want so much money spent on them, well generally I'm not going out with people like them anyway.

If somebody was giving me one I would accept any aul piece of crap, onion ring etc

depends on what the are giving you Tar.

norrie rugger

feelingstressed wrote: »

Two months wage is the "rule" I believe

Around my age group I know a lot of engaged couples and I'm hearing good things about going to the source, Antwerp. Bring your haggling skills with you.
Irish jewelers need their markup so you can head to Antwerp, treat yourself to a weekend away and still save money

New York is great also

starlit

dearg lady wrote: »

OT, but that is utter nonsense, generalisations. I'm under 30 and remember quite well how bad things were in the 80's and early 90's



snuggles as I've read your posts it seems you're looking for quality more than just to say 'he spent X' on a ring, which isn't so unreasonable.

I don't wear rings so I never want an engagement ring at all. But in general I'm loath to spend large sums of money on anything. The thought of someone spending 5 or 10 thousand on a ring makes me slightly sick!

But, on the subject of holliers v. a ring I know what I'd prefer!! In general I get more pleasure out of experiences rather than things.

G86 wrote: »

Would many women actually know to look at it how much it was? I know I wouldn't have a clue, nor would I give a sh!t tbh - well provided it didn't start rusting a week later:p

IMO, anything over 2k is a ridiculous amount of money to be spending on a ring. If you can afford it then fair enough, I doubt she'll be complaining , but there are some gorgeous rings you can get for half that even.

Some women have an eye for style/design and classiness and can tell a mile off if a ring is cheap or not sometimes the naked eye can decieve us.
Personally I don't mind either gold or silver. I would prefer silver though when it comes to jewellery/rings. I'm not fussy with that and neither am I with regarding rings. When I cross that bridge and see a nice engagement ring I would like I go for it. It think if its nice, looks simple not gammy looking I think its worth spending a few bob but not necessary to break the bank and yes I strive for quality. What's the point in having a ring that will break or something or get caught in a handle if its not fixable?

You can get a cert that certifys that the diamonds/ring/carates are what they are stated to be.

Tar.Aldarion

hondasam wrote: »

depends on what the are giving you Tar.

Onion rings?! In myyy vagina!?!?!!

G86

snuggles285 wrote: »

Some women have an eye for style/design and classiness.
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I'd like to think I do too, I'm just not hung up on designer brands/expensive styles etc. A ring that cost under a grand can look just as classy as one for 5k.

Maybe I'm old school but I like the whole idea of your partner choosing the ring he thinks you'll like, because I'd like to think at that stage he'd know you well enough to do that. And to me, part of the gift is the fact that the person you love has chosen it for you.