Why aren't we allowed slag fat people?

leggo

BaZmO* wrote: »

tl:dr

In the context of the above post, that's like you shouting "Faggg!" when you run back to your mates. Well done.

Balloon Of a fish in C.

What time is coronation street on at ?

BaZmO*

leggo wrote: »

In the context of the above post, that's like you shouting "Faggg!" when you run back to your mates. Well done.

See post #349

Logical Fallacy

leggo wrote: »

No, it's just a bit creepy when it starts getting brought up in conversations about overweight people.

Let the grudge lie, lads. Or at least grumble about it on your little Facebook group. Nobody here (myself included) cares. And you're grown adults.

Meh, i don't have a grudge. You clearly think there is, i can only assume because we had differing opinions in the DJ forum.

Out of interest, do you include everyone who disagrees with you in your conspiracy? I can't say i know any of the guys in the DJ Forum (bar one) outside of boards...cheers for the include though...it's nice that people think i have such a wide reaching social circle.

To be honest, i'm the kind of guy who just calls people tools when i think they are tools.

If you don't remember me calling you a tool it's best to assume i have no major issues with you.

Shpuds

Balloon Of a fish in C. wrote: »

What time is coronation street on at ?

Can't see, all the fattys are in the way of the tv eating their Big Macs.





Sarcasm

Nadser

It's amazing how all the fatties I work with are 'big boned'.

Strangely, they're also the ones who eat crisps, chocolate and biscuits EVERY DAY on their breaks.

Co-incidence???

Balloon Of a fish in C.

F*** it ,Im fat at the moment and walked from nassau street to finglas at 3am on my own last night,because I missed the nitelink.
If I was skinny ,I probably wouldn't have made it back

Logical Fallacy

Nadser wrote: »

It's amazing how all the fatties I work with are 'big boned'.

Strangely, they're also the ones who eat crisps, chocolate and biscuits EVERY DAY on their breaks.

Co-incidence???

Lots of calcium in the chocolate causes their bones to grow.

It's science yo.

CallMeFlo

God I hate fatties, they irritate me so much. Just join a bloody gym or get a gastric bypass already and stop telling yourself that you're a "healthy weight" :mad:

Bipolar Joe

I ****in' love me some tubby chicks, all the jiggly bits are wicked hot.

Darlughda

CallMeFlo wrote: »

God I hate fatties, they irritate me so much. Just join a bloody gym or get a gastric bypass already and stop telling yourself that you're a "healthy weight" :mad:

God I hate dumb kids. They irritate me so much. Just read a book if you are able or develop some level of cop on and stop telling yourself that you are in any use to this world, despite what your over indulgent parents tell you.:D

Sanity_Saviour

Ah to be fair...Its just a bit of banter.

Darlughda

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

Ah to be fair...Its just a bit of banter.

Tell that to the parents of vulnearble teens with weight problems who have died by suicide due to bullying from their dumb peers.

norris_minor

get called skinny all the time, certainly lean in comparison to so got worried n checked my bmi - actually spot-on recommended weight and waist size. In fact fractionally over, weight-wise. Go figure

even that bastion of butch shane warne has slimmed down FFS! but it just seems part of his bizarre full-on metrosexual reinvention.. cricket can do that to ya regardless

CallMeFlo

Darlughda wrote: »

God I hate dumb kids. They irritate me so much. Just read a book if you are able or develop some level of cop on and stop telling yourself that you are in any use to this world, despite what your over indulgent parents tell you.:D

I think somebody needs to calm down!

Darlughda wrote: »

Tell that to the parents of vulnearble teens with weight problems who have died by suicide due to bullying from their dumb peers.

Also you talk about people committing suicide from bullying?
"stop telling yourself that you are in any use to this world"
Now correct me if I'm wrong but could telling someone they are no use in this world not be interpreted as some form of bullying? and such a thing being said to someone sensitive could lead them to commit suicide no?

Just think about that!

Darlughda

@callmeflo: Cop on you silly child

Shanotheslayer

I'm pretty sure, now I could be wrong, but if you exercise regularly and eat healthy then you wont get fat. Simple as that really. Self inflicted, no sympathy from me.

CallMeFlo

Darlughda wrote: »

@callmeflo: Cop on you silly child

I know you are but what am I?

Bipolar Joe

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I'm pretty sure, now I could be wrong, but if you exercise regularly and eat healthy then you wont get fat. Simple as that really. Self inflicted, no sympathy from me.

Not entirely true. I eat like a pig, out of a trough and everything, and I'm rake thin. Same thing can happen for fatties, no matter what, they stay big. It's just a body type.

Darlughda

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I'm pretty sure, now I could be wrong, but if you exercise regularly and eat healthy then you wont get fat. Simple as that really. Self inflicted, no sympathy from me.

I'm pretty sure. lalala ...if you study enough and work hard you can get into medicine law etc, or at least ensure you will never be unemployed in your life.

Simple as that really. Self inflicted, no sympathy from me.:D

Sanity_Saviour

Darlughda wrote: »

God I hate dumb kids. They irritate me so much. Just read a book if you are able or develop some level of cop on and stop telling yourself that you are in any use to this world, despite what your over indulgent parents tell you.:D

God I hate poor kids. They irritate me so much. Just get a job if you can and just make some money and stop telling yourself you can't afford anything in this world, despite what your lack of affluent parents tell you..Gawd

Shanotheslayer

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Not entirely true. I eat like a pig, out of a trough and everything, and I'm rake thin. Same thing can happen for fatties, no matter what, they stay big. It's just a body type.

Yeh I see were you're coming from. Im in the same boat as yourself there but thats metabolism for ya!

Darlughda wrote: »

I'm pretty sure. lalala ...if you study enough and work hard you can get into medicine law etc, or at least ensure you will never be unemployed in your life.

Simple as that really. Self inflicted, no sympathy from me.:D

Oh don't worry, I've no fear of that. I'm actually not a cnut like some people and have valid work experience and a sense of humor to go with it.

Darlughda

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Oh don't worry, I've no fear of that. I'm actually not a cnut like some people and have valid work experience and a sense of humor to go with it.

You may not think you are, but might be sadly mistaken about all your assumptions.

Sanity_Saviour

CallMeFlo wrote: »

I know you are but what am I?

No you're a towel

Shanotheslayer

Darlughda wrote: »

You may not think you are, but might be sadly mistaken about all your assumptions.

Unlikely.

Darlughda

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Unlikely.

Get over yerself.

CallMeFlo

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

No you're a towel

And again... I know you are but what am I?

annascott

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4YZiKbklAE

CiaranTheGreat

i used to work in a cafe a where you got a biscuit with your tea/coffee. every day without fail someone would say "you have the biscuit, sure you could do with fattening up". As someone who at the time was quite conscious of my thiness (word??) i hated this. so one day i decided to test a reply" Thanks sure you look like you have enough of them anyway"

I get a complaint about me to the Manager!!

Fat bitch!

Sanity_Saviour

CallMeFlo wrote: »

And again... I know you are but what am I?

My dad's bigger than your dad

CallMeFlo

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

My dad's bigger than your dad

How would you know you perve!!

OPENROAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gVTJBsQizg

Sanity_Saviour

CallMeFlo wrote: »

How would you know you perve!!

Well that's just grossly inappropriate...I'm telling the teacher

CallMeFlo

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

Well that's just grossly inappropriate...I'm telling the teacher

:eek: No please don't tell the miss.. I'm sorry

Handsome Bob

Nadser wrote: »

It's amazing how all the fatties I work with are 'big boned'.

Strangely, they're also the ones who eat crisps, chocolate and biscuits EVERY DAY on their breaks.

Co-incidence???

Ah the internet, where all the massive generalisations in the world come to life. Not to question the validity of your post, but who calls themselves big boned in this day and age? It's just one of those phrases that has been ridiculed to death at this stage and no-one dares to use it anymore as an excuse.

Balloon Of a fish in C.

Can't remember when I've ever seen a respectable looking person crticising someone in public. It just doesn't happen.

Nadser

Handsome Bob wrote: »

Ah the internet, where all the massive generalisations in the world come to life. Not to question the validity of your post, but who calls themselves big boned in this day and age? It's just one of those phrases that has been ridiculed to death at this stage and no-one dares to use it anymore as an excuse.

Oh, if only that were true! I'm serious - we had a health check and a number of people who were told that they needed to lose weight said that it was ridiculous, what did the nurse know, they'd always had big bones! Had me chuckling to myself for days!

Paddy Cow

Nadser wrote: »

Oh, if only that were true! I'm serious - we had a health check and a number of people who were told that they needed to lose weight said that it was ridiculous, what did the nurse know, they'd always had big bones! Had me chuckling to myself for days!

Someone I knew nearly had kittens because they were told by the doctor that they were half a stone overweight and should take steps to lose it while it's not a lot overweight. The person didn't take kindly to that and declared that the BMI is totally wrong and no way is she overweight blah blah. Some people just do not want to listen. You don't have to be morbidly obese to be overweight but this is part of the problem. Because the average size is getting bigger, people can fool themselves for longer and pretend that they aren't overweight at all.

hatrickpatrick

Why aren't we allowed slag fat people?

Oh but we are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Hen2aAVng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIN0AuymZ7I

Stupid fat bitch!! :pac:
Did those big cheeks not cushion the blow?

Precious flower

For some people is not as easy to just eat less and exercise more, they may have health problems that may hinder weight loss and no matter how much they try it is extremely hard to loose the weight, for instance is you had an under active thyroid, can cause weight gain that is hard to shed.

For some people they may have weight issues because they were raised in a household where their parents dished up unhealthy and fattening meals, and once they got a taste of that they found it very hard to adjust to healthier food, as there is always that craving for sweet, fatty or salty food. It is also said that children who become obese in childhood, find it next to impossible to completely shed all that weight, they might try everything, and there are people who have loss a significant amount of weight but its a very hard road. Sometimes they may need help in losing that weight, so they resort to surgery, they may be taking a risk but may have no other option.

There are also people who are emotional eaters, this may stem back years and may be caused by a traumatic event in their lives, they may have lost a loved one, they may have been abused as a child anything could have happened in their past to make them turn to food. For instance OP, you are a smoker, you may have started smoking because all your friends were doing it or maybe for a deeper emotional reason, you may have found it helped when you were stressed or worried. Or maybe your parents smoked and like the child who grew up in the home where large quantities of unhealthy food was dished up day after day you knew no better and and just accepted it.

So before you feel you have a right to rant at an obese person, because you feel its justified, take a minute to think, what might have caused that person to go down that path, because no one just makes a conscious decision to become overweight.

leggo

Precious flower wrote: »

For instance OP, you are a smoker, you may have started smoking because all your friends were doing it or maybe for a deeper emotional reason, you may have found it helped when you were stressed or worried. Or maybe your parents smoked and like the child who grew up in the home where large quantities of unhealthy food was dished up day after day you knew no better and and just accepted it.

So before you feel you have a right to rant at an obese person, because you feel its justified, take a minute to think, what might have caused that person to go down that path, because no one just makes a conscious decision to become overweight.

I'm with you for the most part. But you also play into my main argument with your examples of why I started smoking.

In spite of all those potential reasons, society deems it acceptable to ridicule my decision to smoke. And, as I've said, I agree with that. So why should we be so sympathetic with over-eaters' sob stories in that case? Most smoking addicts don't wish to be addicted. They don't enjoy spending x amount each week to feed the habit either.

What you're demonising is the effect, not the cause. Making excuses won't help the damaging effects.

Logical Fallacy

People might feel justified giving smokers grief due to second hand smoke.

It's pretty hard to get second hand fat.

prinz

The same people who get a kick out of slagging off fat people rarely put as much effort in to slagging off the underweight. Being underweight is almost celebrated in fashion, pop culture, as sexy and desirable. Then you have the people who make the valid arguments about the cost of obese people in terms of healthcare.... however the same arguments are rarely if ever brought out when dealing with the underweight. And yet...

Eating disorders have the highest mortality rate of any mental illness.4
Students:

• 91% of women surveyed on a college campus had attempted to control their weight through dieting. 22% dieted “often” or “always.”5
• 86% report onset of eating disorder by age 20; 43% report onset between ages of 16 and 20.6
• Anorexia is the third most common chronic illness among adolescents.7
• 95% of those who have eating disorders are between the ages of 12 and 25.8
• 25% of college-aged women engage in bingeing and purging as a weight-management technique.3
• The mortality rate associated with anorexia nervosa is 12 times higher than the death rate associated with all causes of death for females 15-24 years old.4
• Over one-half of teenage girls and nearly one-third of teenage boys use unhealthy weight control behaviors such as skipping meals, fasting, smoking cigarettes, vomiting, and taking laxatives.17
• In a survey of 185 female students on a college campus, 58% felt pressure to be a certain weight, and of the 83% that dieted for weight loss, 44% were of normal weight.16

http://www.anad.org/get-information/about-eating-disorders/eating-disorders-statistics/

You will rarely here the same people who slag off the fat, slag off the too-thin.

Monife

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Oh but we are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Hen2aAVng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIN0AuymZ7I

Even though I am overweight (not comparable to the obesity of the subjects in the video's though), this made me LOL!!!

But what a terrible mother in the first vid, laughing at her poor child... ok... laughing again ha ha ha ha ha

johnny_cash

This thread is stupid of course you can slag fat people, if i'm out with a bunch of lads we all take the piss out of each other and that includes the fat lads.I am obviously not going to go up to somebody that i don't know and slag them off for being fat.

Redhairedguy

Was over in England a couple of days ago. The area I was staying in was notably working class, but christ the amount of obese mothers with equally obese babies was grotesque.

Of course, I turned to the people I was with and said the typical "you'd have to dip her in flour to find the wet bits" "you wouldn't ride her into battle" etc. etc.

Seeing as they were waddling out of a Gregg's Pasty shop with a greasy bulging brown bag, their size was obviously self inflicted so I don't really feel bad saying stuff like that. Now if they were disabled/a different race/genuinely ill and I was cracking jokes that would be a different kettle of fish altogether.

Gingers always get slagged about their appearance as well, and it's not something that can really be changed (unless you dye your hair black like I did for a while :P) so you either embrace the jokes or you die a lonely, pale, soulless person.

So if you're fat and don't like fat jokes, either put down the fork and make a change or learn to laugh about it. I thought ye cake worriers were all supposed to be jolly anyway.

I for one am not gonna stop ripping the piss out of the fatty-boom-batties anytime too soon.

Handsome Bob

johnny_cash wrote: »

I am obviously not going to go up to somebody that i don't know and slag them off for being fat.

Nah, of course you wouldn't, you wouldn't want to risk a potentially very embarassing situation to occur.

storker

Yakult wrote: »

It comes down to laziness to eat healthy, exercise and more available fatty foods than ever.

Its personal imo. If it were societies fault we would all be fat.

Self-fucking-control.

Wow. Are you really a moderator?

Stork

leggo

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

People might feel justified giving smokers grief due to second hand smoke.

It's pretty hard to get second hand fat.

The second-hand smoke argument wears pretty thin on me. I mean, take me for example. I rarely smoke when I'm walking somewhere (unless I'm rushing and really need one asap) for that exact reason. If a kid is anywhere near me I won't take a drag and will hold the smoke in the opposite direction until they pass. My old roommate used to give out to me because I'd often get up and go over to the corner to have my smoke, when he didn't mind the second-hand smoke.

And a lot of others would be mindful of this kind of thing too. Just being a smoker doesn't automatically make you inconsiderate. I remember the conversation that inspired the OP being IN a smoking area with the overweight person in question accompanying their smoker friend. It wasn't as if I was blowing it down her throat against her will.

prinz wrote: »

The same people who get a kick out of slagging off fat people rarely put as much effort in to slagging off the underweight. Being underweight is almost celebrated in fashion, pop culture, as sexy and desirable. Then you have the people who make the valid arguments about the cost of obese people in terms of healthcare.... however the same arguments are rarely if ever brought out when dealing with the underweight. And yet...

Good post and valid points.

However, I think the reason there's not so much 'slagging' of the underweight is because:

a) It's difficult to tell, at a glance, who is underweight and who's actually healthy and,
b) In extreme cases, the circumstances that led to them being underweight - that you outline - aren't appropriate for playful slaggings or a bit of social pressure. This is where serious education and clear understanding is required. There's different ways to tackle different problems, depending on their severity.

Whereas with overweight people, 90% of the time its down to laziness. Underweight people don't simply 'forget to eat'. And, if you get to know overweight people reasonably well (well enough to be able to slag them to begin with), you'll be able to tell if it's down to poor dietary choices or not.

I also know people who, though they don't discuss it, clearly have legitimate weight issues because they are constantly eating healthy and still tipping the scales. I would never deem it okay to rib them about their weight. Whereas some people could use a hard dose of reality (e.g. a gal I used to work with who would lecture skinnier people about what they ate, would lecture me about smoking, would go on about hitting the gym ad nauseum and so on).