DROPPING IRISH.

kmlarules

I moved here when I was 6 months old. I did irish for my junior cert, but now for the leaving cert I want to drop it. I dont want to do Pass because any time spent for studying irish could easily be used in my 7 other subjects (all honours) so I was just wondering do i have an exemption from irish because i technically wasn't born here.
Its a complete waste of time. Jibberish.
Thanks.

Chuchoter

Nope, it only counts if you moved here after you were 11 as far as I'm aware. You're stuck with it like the rest of us I'm afraid :P :P

Patriciamc93

No you would not be able to get an exemption you would have had to come to ireland after third class as far as I know.
Sorry
But honestly pass irish is grand. Only 5 poems and 5 stories which only have to be about a half page long. Also just a few essays to learn off that's it. Plus if you don't want to do much work in it you would still be able to get a c by just learning a few things.

seamus

Nope, you can't drop it unless you were educated outside of Ireland up to the age of 11.

Most of your classmates consider it gibberish too.

Pass Irish for the LC is easier than honours Irish in the JC. I was failing honours Irish in 6th year and I dropped to pass and got an A2 with very little work. I was very chuffed at the decision.

Irlandesaaa

Patriciamc93 wrote: »

No you would not be able to get an exemption you would have had to come to ireland after third class as far as I know.
Sorry
But honestly pass irish is grand. Only 5 poems and 5 stories which only have to be about a half page long. Also just a few essays to learn off that's it. Plus if you don't want to do much work in it you would still be able to get a c by just learning a few things.

excuse me for going out topic, but is it that easy to get a c in irish honours?? :P i'm brazilian so i've hardly any idea about irish leavin certs i'll have to do in a few years xDD

CG328

Irlandesaaa wrote: »

excuse me for going out topic, but is it that easy to get a c in irish honours?? :P i'm brazilian so i've hardly any idea about irish leavin certs i'll have to do in a few years xDD

Thats the requirements for the pass course, there is a MAJOR difference between the pass and honours level. The honours course has to do the 5 poems and stories of the pass level but also extra honours level poetry, a drama or another option and also a section on the history of Irish. If you think that getting a C in honours Irish is easy you must remember it requires a lot of time to cover every aspect of the course and there is also an oral and an aural involved so I wouldn't say getting a C grade is easy, it's very achieveable with hard work.

Irlandesaaa

lol thanks

MathsManiac

It depends on what you mean by exempt.

You are NOT exempt from the DES rule that says that you must be following a programme of study in Irish in order that the school can count you as a registered senior-cycle pupil for the purposes of funding. This does not oblige you to sit an exam in the subject.

You ARE exempt from the NUI matriculation requirement that you pass Irish, as detailed in section 5.3(i) of the NUI matriculation rules: http://www.nui.ie/college/docs/matricRegs2011_12English.pdf
But note what's in the bullets in 5.4.

TCD doesn't have an Irish language requirement.

caseyann

kmlarules wrote: »

I moved here when I was 6 months old. I did irish for my junior cert, but now for the leaving cert I want to drop it. I dont want to do Pass because any time spent for studying irish could easily be used in my 7 other subjects (all honours) so I was just wondering do i have an exemption from irish because i technically wasn't born here.
Its a complete waste of time. Jibberish.
Thanks.

How dare you call our language jibberish.
Should blame your parents for moving here and not making you exempt from it in first place.
If you want out of Irish you can get your parents to apply for you to be made excempt and refuse to do it.
Talking about our native language like that who the hell you think you are?:rolleyes:

caseyann

Irlandesaaa wrote: »

excuse me for going out topic, but is it that easy to get a c in irish honours?? :P i'm brazilian so i've hardly any idea about irish leavin certs i'll have to do in a few years xDD

Depends on the person,yes its possible B and A in honours Irish is possible aswell, just a matter of you studying and wanting to do it.
Good luck with it

jumpguy

caseyann wrote: »

How dare you call our language jibberish.
Should blame your parents for moving here and not making you exempt from it in first place.
If you want out of Irish you can get your parents to apply for you to be made excempt and refuse to do it.
Talking about our native language like that who the hell you think you are?:rolleyes:

Ah now, chill out, the OP moved to Ireland when he/she was 6 months old, they're probably pretty much as Irish as the rest of us, so drop the "them" and "us" stuff, eh?

You aren't eligible for an exemption, have you done pass Irish yet? It's quite easy, if you manage to do well enough in the comprehension, orals and aural (all of which are much easier than their HL JC equivalent) then there's very little pressure on your poetry and stories. Also, the questions on the poetry/stories that come up are very predictable.

readystudypass

The general entry requirements for entry to Dublin City University require that you pass either English or Irish. http://www.dcu.ie/registry/entry.shtml#leaving

LilMissCiara

kmlarules wrote: »

I moved here when I was 6 months old. I did irish for my junior cert, but now for the leaving cert I want to drop it. I dont want to do Pass because any time spent for studying irish could easily be used in my 7 other subjects (all honours) so I was just wondering do i have an exemption from irish because i technically wasn't born here.
Its a complete waste of time. Jibberish.
Thanks.

You have done Irish all your schooling life! Why would you get an exemption? Just drop to pass if you don't want to do honours.

Although I was born here I basically lived in the UK from just after my birth until I was 10. I started learning Irish in the middle of 4th class. I can't get an exemption!

Pace2008

caseyann wrote: »

Depends on the person,yes its possible B and A in honours Irish is possible aswell, just a matter of you studying and wanting to do it.
Good luck with it

I got a C1 in honours. I can't speak a word and I didn't know what the play was about. I've heard they inflate the grades in the years where everyone's failing to make it look like people actually give a **** about it, and I'd be inclined to believe it.

****ing joke of a subject.

caseyann

Pace2008 wrote: »

I got a C1 in honours. I can't speak a word and I didn't know what the play was about. I've heard they inflate the grades in the years where everyone's failing to make it look like people actually give a **** about it, and I'd be inclined to believe it.

****ing joke of a subject.

Yeah for you maybe its is, if you didn't bother and only made it as a subject to be passed instead of embracing it and being proud of it.
They dont inflate grades and i passed French with an B and cant speak it so whats your point and all but forgotten it.Even though i was top of my class.
And yes they give a **** about and more you whinge the people are going to adapt a nationalist view in order to protect it.:)

13spanner

Isn't there some talk of making Irish optional for the leaving?
I heard that recently but it might only be gossip, but if it was there would be very few doing it :rolleyes: absolute f%cker of a subject

Daniel S

13spanner wrote: »

Isn't there some talk of making Irish optional for the leaving?
I heard that recently but it might only be gossip, but if it was there would be very few doing it :rolleyes: absolute f%cker of a subject

That's Fine Gael talk that is.

randylonghorn

caseyann wrote: »

How dare you call our language jibberish.
Should blame your parents for moving here and not making you exempt from it in first place.
If you want out of Irish you can get your parents to apply for you to be made excempt and refuse to do it.
Talking about our native language like that who the hell you think you are?:rolleyes:

Take it easy, for heaven's sake!!


Everyone is entitled to "dare" to have an opinion of their own.

Nor do those who rant and rave and get up on their high horse about Irish do the language any favours.

Give people reasons to love the language, don't whip them for disliking it!

partyatmygaff

caseyann wrote: »

How dare you call our language jibberish.

As jumpguy said less of this "our" and "them" business. One pronoun ought to be enough to include a guy who moved here at the age of six months.

Should blame your parents for moving here and not making you exempt from it in first place.

Borderline xenophobic.

If you want out of Irish you can get your parents to apply for you to be made excempt and refuse to do it.

You make it sound as if people who have lived here their entire lives wouldn't relish an opportunity like that. I don't hate Irish. I just don't want a language that I don't have any use for to affect my third level opportunities.

Talking about our native language like that who the hell you think you are?:rolleyes:

Who the hell do you think you are lashing out at people? If he simply forgot to include "I moved here when I was six months" I am quite sure your reply would have been quite different.

Welshman666

Guys i moved here from Wales in 2001, i did Irish right up to junior cert, but no longer do it for leaving cert, my school provide geography instead for those with an exemption.

I can't say i have an "official" exemption however all seems to be ok, i was born outside the country obviously and it seems to be ok for me at least...(but also others that I know, i.e friend from england moved around same time as me and is doing what I am doing)

I dropped it as it was simply a waste of my time, considering i'm going back to the UK for RAF (hopefully) or Uni....