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Gerry Adams? Are things that bad?

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    #332
    TheUsual
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    Great result.
    Am delighted for Louth and for Gerry.

    Can't wait to see how the stickies in the Labour Party handle a bit of intelligent debating. Not very well is my prediction.


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    #333
    Whiskey Devil
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    hamlet1 wrote: »
    i am so upset that people in louth voted in that despicable adams.to think that we will have to look at him in any tv dail coverage and listen to him talking about this country,in that ghastly accent.he doesnt give a damn about us in this country,he should have stayed in his own one.i am so disillusioned.

    You can accuse Gerry Adams of many things, but not caring about Ireland, north or south, is not one of them. Their policies may be populist but Sinn Féin reps put their money where their mouth is, and will take home no more than the average industrial wage.


    Unlikely the careerist politicians like Kirk, O'Dowd, Nash will do the same. They will continue to live on salaries light years apart from the majority of people they claim to represent..


    Can't see Fitzpatrick lasting a full term in the Dáil. If he gets anywhere near a mic, he will be slaughtered by the radio/tv satirists and mimics.


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    #334
    Lord TSC
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    Yeap. 21% of the county have chosen the man to represent us all for the next few years. The joys of democracy :D

    Don't get me wrong. I want to be proven wrong here. I want him to do a fantastic job and make sure there's loads of improvements to Louth. Sadly, I don't have much faith in him (and neither does the other 79% of the people who voted), and it strikes me that the way people are acting in here over his victory is a reason some get annoyed with the SF voting base, but there you go. We're stuck with him now.


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    #335
    Long Term Louth
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    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    its a free country at least most of it is and the people of louth have spoken and there message couldnt be any clearer


    Have to agree on this one, the 26 counties have been too long in the hands of corrupt politicians.


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    #336
    Long Term Louth
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    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    You'd be surprised how far it'd get ya.;)
    Anyway, you obviously missed the quite obvious sarcasm in my post, so I'd better be a bit more blunt:
    Moaning about anyone because of their accent is a bit silly.
    Got it that time?


    Got it the firs time, just couldnt resist :)


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    #337
    Dan_Solo
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    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Sadly, I don't have much faith in him (and neither does the other 79% of the people who voted)
    Oh, so that's how proportional representation works.:rolleyes:


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    #338
    Scotty #
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    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    i am even more disillusioned that somebody would describe the north of ireland as a different country ( surely even the name is a give away )

    Excuse my ignorance but isn't the fact that Northern Ireland IS a different country the whole point of IRA and Sinn Feinn's existence???


    But anyway... the people of Louth (albeit 1 in 5 of us) have chosen to elect him. Lets now see what wonderful things he's going to do for the county. I suspect the answer is very little. Wonder has anyone told him what the VAT rate is yet?


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    #339
    caseyann
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    hamlet1 wrote: »
    i am so upset that people in louth voted in that despicable adams.to think that we will have to look at him in any tv dail coverage and listen to him talking about this country,in that ghastly accent.he doesnt give a damn about us in this country,he should have stayed in his own one.i am so disillusioned.

    His own Country? Funny just because its run by British i am pretty sure he is Irish and that is our country.
    Seems the majority dont agree with you thank god.


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    #340
    Lord TSC
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    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Oh, so that's how proportional representation works.:rolleyes:

    Notice the roll-eyes smilie in the first sentence of my post...


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    #341
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    Long Term Louth wrote: »
    Have to agree on this one, the 26 counties have been too long in the hands of corrupt politicians.

    oh and f.g arent getting there money from big buisness and they wont be stuffing their party faithful into any jobs they will create ( well they will have to give them something for standing aside for their celebrity candidates


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    #342
    Lord TSC
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    LOL. And Gerry Adams is not a celebrity candidate?


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    #343
    Wolfe Tone
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    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    LOL. And Gerry Adams is not a celebrity candidate?
    No, because he is well known because of his politics.


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    #344
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    LOL. And Gerry Adams is not a celebrity candidate?

    certainly not he has dedicated his life to politics


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    #345
    Long Term Louth
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    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    oh and f.g arent getting there money from big buisness and they wont be stuffing their party faithful into any jobs they will create ( well they will have to give them something for standing aside for their celebrity candidates

    I dont know, please enlighten me.


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    #346
    DonalK1981
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭DonalK1981


    garrincha62 wrote: »
    @10 green bottles I agree, all sorts of promises were made. But the policies that were pandered at the time made more sense then the mess GA made of SF policies. I'm sure after that appearance that SF policy makers were bulling. The Greens and FF made promises sure, but they could at least explain the policies in a coherent and comprehensible manner, bull****e though they were. Whether you agreed with these polices was up to you.

    If I explain my lie, does it make it any less a lie?


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    #347
    hamlet1
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    caseyann wrote: »
    His own Country? Funny just because its run by British i am pretty sure he is Irish and that is our country.
    Seems the majority dont agree with you thank god.
    he is not irish,he is northern irish and they are completely different.


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    #348
    Long Term Louth
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    hamlet1 wrote: »
    he is not irish,he is northern irish and they are completely different.



    His politics may not please everyone, but Gerry is Irish, and lives in Co. Louth.


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    #349
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    But anyway... the people of Louth (albeit 1 in 5 of us) have chosen to elect him. Lets now see what wonderful things he's going to do for the county. I suspect the answer is very little. Wonder has anyone told him what the VAT rate is yet?[/QUOTE]

    still going on about the vat rate didnt anybody tell you he got elected


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    #350
    caseyann
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    hamlet1 wrote: »
    he is not irish,he is northern irish and they are completely different.

    Wow lmao this gets thinner and thinner as an argument.Can you hear yourself?
    Gerry is Irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And anyone who lives north of the country and call themselves Irish are Irish.

    It would be like saying someone who emigrated and got passport of another country and say they arent Irish anymore lol


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    #351
    wee truck big driver
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    Long Term Louth wrote: »
    I dont know, please enlighten me.

    sorry i dont have that sort of time to waste


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    #352
    hamlet1
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    Long Term Louth wrote: »
    His politics may not please everyone, but Gerry is Irish, and lives in Co. Louth.
    he was born in the north therefore is northern irish and he has only lodged with some dodgy character in louth for about 5 minutes.i dont call that living here.


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    #353
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    hamlet1 wrote: »
    he was born in the north therefore is northern irish and he has only lodged with some dodgy character in louth for about 5 minutes.i dont call that living here.

    when did you dream up the term northern irish. it is honestly the stupidest thing i have ever seen on boards


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    #354
    Long Term Louth
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    hamlet1 wrote: »
    he was born in the north therefore is northern irish and he has only lodged with some dodgy character in louth for about 5 minutes.i dont call that living here.



    Call it what you like, its the truth however.


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    #355
    macadam
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    Long Term Louth wrote: »
    His politics may not please everyone, but Gerry is Irish, and lives in Co. Louth.
    where does he live?


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    #356
    caseyann
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    hamlet1 wrote: »
    he was born in the north therefore is northern irish and he has only lodged with some dodgy character in louth for about 5 minutes.i dont call that living here.

    You see this is where your problem lies.You see a border where he doesnt and we dont.Only by British paper is that border there but guess what not for very much longer :) They are Irish natives just because been under rule of British and had basically no choice in it does not make them any less Irish.
    You do realize they are Irish,the term northern Irish is like made up lol


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    #357
    Whiskey Devil
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Whiskey Devil


    Gerry Adams

    Irish Citizen/Passport Holder
    Irish resident
    Irish public representative
    Gaelgoir:pac:


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    #358
    wee truck big driver
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    macadam wrote: »
    where does he live?

    ireland


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    #359
    tweedledee
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    Ive never understood the anger and jokes made towards SF.Irish people have always been afraid of change,afraid to rock the boat,probably the reason we are one of the most underdeveloped countries in Europe.Ireland is in a deep pit,brought about by greed and extremely bad Fianna Fail management.Cowan walks around freely, were he in any other country he would have been shot or arrested bt now,ohh but not in Bog Ireland.FF people said were the party of business the party of big decisions but they sank Ireland back to the 1970's.So why badmouth SF or even Labour??????It couldnt possibly be worse.WAKE UP IRELAND,we are moving on,Fianna Fail are gone,Greens are gone(they had good policies but stayed in bed way too long with FF) LONG LIVE THE KING.


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    #360
    Long Term Louth
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    macadam wrote: »
    where does he live?


    with some dodgy character in louth


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    #361
    Lord TSC
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    No, because he is well known because of his politics.

    So you're telling me that if we went out onto the streets and asked 100 people "What is Gerry Adams most well known for?", the reply would be his politics? :rolleyes:

    Anyway, I'm off to bed now. I'll end by saying this. SF chose an area where they knew Adams would get in. His and his party's policies appeal to the lower classes who have been victimised, and SF can make these wonderful promises knowing full well they will never actually have to enforce or carry through on them. Most of these promises revolve around saying how they are against the unpopular (yet, sadly, often nessecary) policies of the more popular parties, rather than what they actually are for.

    In the meanwhile, people are so desperate for a change, so desperate for an alternative, that they vote for SF. Let's not kid ourselves; people do not trust FF or FG, nor is there much love for Labour or the Greens. People feel disenchanted and angry with how the country has been run for the last few years and are choosing the only real alternative, no matter how flimsey the policies of the alternatives actually are off of paper.

    I'd love to see the breakdown of the ages who voted for SF; I have a feeling you'll find the majority of people who voted are from a younger generation who want to have a different style of government; a youthful generation to now relate politics and democracy to a bunch of bad apples and fail to seperate the system from the corrupt people running it. SF happen to be in the right place at the right time and capitalised on tactical voting, sending their most "popular" candidate into an area where the promises would appeal the most. As far as a "The people have spoken" attitude, you're right, but only to an extent; it's not that a majority have voted GA in but rather a large minority. In fact, looking at the results, on a party basis, the largest minorty voted for FG, but split their votes over two candidates whereas SF had the common sense to only put up the one.

    That is, and please note the sarcasm, the "joys" of our democratic election system.
    sorry i dont have that sort of time to waste

    You asked me earlier if I thought someone attacking spelling, punctuation, etc was a sign someone was losing an arguement, and I said no. To me, a sign that someone is losing and knows it is when they make a grand statement, are asked to back it up and reply that the can't be bothered, as if their nonchalance is enough to excuse them from logical and rational debate; a trick which a few of the pro-SF voters in this topic have fallen back on a few times now.

    Anyway, yeah. I'm going to rest my weary head now. Night y'all.


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