Wicklow

ergo

spank_inferno wrote: »

Getting spicy!!

These official?

yep

skearon is updating his spreadsheet accordingly

that was announced on East Coast FM, they interrupt "late night love" intermittently with count announcements

link to radio here

http://public.wavepanel.net/XWDEP5D42L7YHXEZ/listen/pls

Blowfish

westtip wrote: »

But I dont think enough not to be pipped by the labour to labour transfers we wil see from Fortune to Ferris - it will be a pity donnelly sounded like a breath of fresh air and could possibly be one of the independent options for a deal without labour. - or the fallback for a deal without labour when that goes belly up.

He's only 50 behind Brady though, so he still has a chance. Presumably Labour's transfer will slightly benefit Brady, but then Fitzgerald should slightly favour Donnelly.

psycho-hope

quick question, asking for my mum, what happens if 2 candidates end up with the same number of votes? does it go down to first prefs?

jaffa20

danois wrote: »

again not sure if true but NiallOCo

#WK Dick Roche says he is going to call for a "complete recount" of the vote - no he hasn't done that already by the way!! #ge11

ah he can feck off already.

spank_inferno

psycho-hope wrote: »

quick question, asking for my mum, what happens if 2 candidates end up with the same number of votes? does it go down to first prefs?

I dare say a recount would be on the cards in that eventuality

I don't know for sure though.

Capt'n Midnight

2349 Wicklow: Labour's Tom Fortune has been excluded on the 15th count.

d'Oracle

Something tells me that between Fitz and Fortune, Donnelly will be in much better pegging than Brady.

Might be a Sinn Fein free Wicklow yet.:D

westtip

ergo wrote: »

Brady 8626
Donnelly 8576

after 15th count

that's what I heard anyway

nobody with a quota yet

she's going to keep going tonight until complete...

thanks but whats Ferris on? this is the important one to know to gauge Donnellys chances of not been pipped by the Fortune transfers?

spank_inferno

d'Oracle wrote: »

Might be a Sinn Fein free Wicklow yet.:D

We can only hope Oracle!

However my gut says its Brady

Fitzgeralds support is a lot of working class Arklow, likely to give a good transfer ratio to the Sinn.

danois

i know its a dirty word but i think good chance of a recount if the numbers for brady and donnelly stay so close...

psycho-hope

ferris is on 7713 going by the spreadsheet im looking at

mgmt

Would Stephan Donnolly do a deal with Fine Gael? Compatible?

d'Oracle

danois wrote: »

i know its a dirty word but i think good chance of a recount if the numbers for brady and donnelly stay so close...

I reckon you can bet your house on it.

ergo

After count 15

John Brady 8626
Stephen Donnelly 8576
Andrew Doyle 11622
Anne Ferris 7713
Pat Fitzgerald 6898
Simon Harris 10134
Billy Timmins 10450

And Tom Fortune of Labour’s 5282 votes being redistributed now

danois

mgmt wrote: »

Would Stephan Donnolly do a deal with Fine Gael? Compatible?

i think so the finegael legal team were in the count centre with him

A Dub in Glasgo

Who is left?

3 FG, 1 SF, 1 Ind, 1 Labour, 1 FF with counting of Labour tranfers? Looks like Fitzgerald will be next to go and his transfers will decide the final seat?

murpho999

mgmt wrote: »

Would Stephan Donnolly do a deal with Fine Gael? Compatible?

A deal for what?

FG are dealing with Labour and they don't need any Endapendents!

spank_inferno

mgmt wrote: »

Would Stephan Donnolly do a deal with Fine Gael? Compatible?

Well in the event of Inda Kinny going alone without Labour, its a strong likelyhood that Donnelly would probably go with Fine Gael.

However as FG will probably trash out a programe for government with Labour, his support will probably go un-needed.

Savage Tyrant

d'Oracle wrote: »

Something tells me that between Fitz and Fortune, Donnelly will be in much better pegging than Brady.

Might be a Sinn Fein free Wicklow yet.:D

Let's hope not.

gcgirl

danois wrote: »

i think so the finegael legal team were in the count centre with him

How naive are you his basically the 4 th FGer
All but the name

spank_inferno

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Let's hope so.

I spotted a typo in your post Tyrant.
I hope you don't mind me correcting it :P

westtip

ergo wrote: »

After count 15

John Brady 8626
Stephen Donnelly 8576
Andrew Doyle 11622
Anne Ferris 7713
Pat Fitzgerald 6898
Simon Harris 10134
Billy Timmins 10450

And Tom Fortune of Labour’s 5282 votes being redistributed now

Its going to be tight, i can't see a recount not being called for by any of the defeated candidates. It would be good to see the Shinner gone but that is looking unlikely

d'Oracle

I'd say Donnelly is very compatible with FG.
From a policy standpoint at least.

But I don't think they need him.
If or not they will loose his skills anyway needs to be seen.
I would like to believe they would though.

danois

gcgirl wrote: »

How naive are you his basically the 4 th FGer
All but the name

no need to be so mean lol i didnt realise that tho well not until tonight!

westtip

d'Oracle wrote: »

I'd say Donnelly is very compatible with FG.
From a policy standpoint at least.

But I don't think they need him.
If or not they will loose his skills anyway needs to be seen.
I would like to believe they would though.

Absolutely - FG need a fallback if the deal with Labour just won't work, and labour in opposition will demote FF to the complete sidelines, that has to be worth looking at the other coalition option for.

Blowfish

mgmt wrote: »

Would Stephan Donnolly do a deal with Fine Gael? Compatible?

Donnelly would be about as compatible as Shane Ross. In other words, very.

gcgirl

danois wrote: »

no need to be so mean lol i didnt realise that tho well not until tonight!

Sorry this count has me on thether hooks here

Savage Tyrant

spank_inferno wrote: »

I spotted a typo in your post Tyrant.
I hope you don't mind me correcting it :P

Nope, you saw a vote you didn't like, so you changed the result to your own liking. How very "democratic" of you!

danois

gcgirl wrote: »

Sorry this count has me on thether hooks here

tell me about it cant wait for it to be over or for them to at least call a recount and go home for the night my bed is screaming at me!

d'Oracle

westtip wrote: »

Absolutely - FG need a fallback if the deal with Labour just won't work, and labour in opposition will demote FF to the complete sidelines, that has to be worth looking at the other coalition option for.

What I meant was I would hope that even with Labour they would find space to use his skill set for the good of the nation.

westtip

d'Oracle wrote: »

What I meant was I would hope that even with Labour they would find space to use his skill set for the good of the nation.

Far too reasonable an idea! but I like it. I think FG should "invite" the like minded TDs to join the Government backbenches inviting them to take the FG whip - to keep labour on their toes and not throw their weight around too much. Ross, Donnelly, Grealish even the maverick from Tipperary who else could they pull in as an insurance policy? to make sure Labour stick to the deal. Problem with a large majority is that you get a lot of very mischievous back benchers.

Anymore news from the count. Has Dick Roche been found floating in the pool yet (sorry dick - didn't mean it!!)

danois

thank god for twitter lol


CowboyJunkie

After eliminating dick now in english and irish the #wk returning officer is waiting for a Klingon translator to be sent from starfleet

d'Oracle

westtip wrote: »

Far too reasonable an idea! but I like it. I think FG should "invite" the like minded TDs to join the Government backbenches inviting them to take the FG whip - to keep labour on their toes and not throw their weight around too much. Ross, Donnelly, Grealish even the maverick from Tipperary who else could they pull in as an insurance policy? to make sure Labour stick to the deal. Problem with a large majority is that you get a lot of very mischievous back benchers.

Anymore news from the count. Has Dick Roche been found floating in the pool yet (sorry dick - didn't mean it!!)

On now.
Andy Doyle is in.
Ferris Transferred hard from Fortune.
Harris transferred well.

mgmt

westtip wrote: »

Far too reasonable an idea! but I like it. I think FG should "invite" the like minded TDs to join the Government backbenches inviting them to take the FG whip - to keep labour on their toes and not throw their weight around too much. Ross, Donnelly, Grealish even the maverick from Tipperary who else could they pull in as an insurance policy? to make sure Labour stick to the deal. Problem with a large majority is that you get a lot of very mischievous back benchers.

This was written in another thread

Noel Grealish - former PD, compatible with FG
Catherine Connolly - lefty, former Labour
Ming the Merciless - pothead and general nutjob
Tom Fleming - FF gene pool
John Halligan - lefty, former Workers Party
Seamus Healy - lefty, IMPACT Trade Union
Michael Healy Rae - bogman, compatible with anyone, if the price is right!
Michael Lowry - gombeen, same as Healy Rae
Finian McGrath - lefty, part of Sinn Fein technical group in last Dail
Mattie McGrath - former FF so fairly compatible with FG but who'd want him?
Catherine Murphy - lefty, former Workers Party
Maureen O'Sullivan - lefty, part of Sinn Fein technical group in last Dail
Thomas Pringle - lefty, former Sinn Fein
Shane Ross - ran for FG in the past, refused to do so again although still compatible
Mick Wallace - property developer so fairly compatible with FG

So you have Donnolly, Grealish, Fleming?, Healy-Rae, Lowry, McGrath, Ross, Ming?. I wouldn't trust Mick Wallace with my shovel never mind holding up a government.

gandalf

Dammit going to bed too knackered to wait up for this. My god if we had decent workable traceable electronic voting this would have been all finished ages ago. Unfortunately it was it was not fit for purpose just like their governance of the nation.

murpho999

Night's like this make me wish there was an Irish 24 Hour News Channel.

RTE are not updating Wicklow page on website but are sending tweets, can't get East Coast stream to load, best info seems to be here on Boards....thanks guys.

ergo

After count 16

John Brady (SF) 9037
Stephen Donnelly (Ind) 8980
Andrew Doyle (FG) 11991
Anne Ferris (Lab) 10243
Pat Fitzgerald (FF) 7004
Simon Harris (FG) 10901
Billy Timmins (FG) 10729

Need to triple check Brady’s, not 100% sure I heard correct. Edit: yeah, looks right

Doyle elected as exceeds quota

mgmt

ergo wrote: »

After count 16

John Brady (SF) 9037
Stephen Donnelly (Ind) 8980
Andrew Doyle (FG) 11991
Anne Ferris (Lab) 10243
Pat Fitzgerald (FF) 7004
Simon Harris (FG) 10901
Billy Timmins (FG) 10729

Need to triple check Brady’s, not 100% sure I heard correct

Doyle elected as exceeds quota

Fock:mad:

psycho-hope

so its really down to the wire then for Brady and Donnelly

murpho999

gandalf wrote: »

Dammit going to bed too knackered to wait up for this. My god if we had decent workable traceable electronic voting this would have been all finished ages ago. Unfortunately it was it was not fit for purpose just like their governance of the nation.

Sorry absolute rubbish, Irish discoveries of weaknesses in E-voting has led to other countries reviewing their systems.

Today has been slow but shows that the system works and is completely open.

westtip

mgmt wrote: »

This was written in another thread


So you have Donnolly, Grealish, Fleming?, Healy-Rae, Lowry, McGrath, Ross, Ming?. I wouldn't trust Mick Wallace with my shovel never mind holding up a government.

Thanks think I had seen that tabulation before - indeed it doesn't look possible to give that small edge. They really need ten FFs to cross the floor of the house take the FG whip and say the Civil wart (sic) is removed from irish politics - its now a left versus right war of ideology.

hotmail.com

No FF TDs in Wicklow.

Dannygirl

So it's down to Fitzgeralds transfers....the tension is too much.:eek:

d'Oracle

psycho-hope wrote: »

so its really down to the wire then for Brady and Donnelly

Someone said Brady will probably transfer better to Brady than Donnelly.
I hate to say it.....so I wont.

C'mon Stevie D.

gcgirl

Civil wart class
I would prefer FF getting in bed with FG

Blowfish

mgmt wrote: »

Fock:mad:

Thats actually pretty good for Donnelly. Brady should have gotten a load more from Labour, but didn't. Donnelly should get more than Brady from both Fitzgerald and any surplus from Doyle, so he has every chance.

ergo

mgmt wrote: »

Fock:mad:

Donnelly got almost as many transfers as Brady there from Pat Fortune

it all boils down to Pat Fitzgerald's transfers, am not optimistic of Donnelly making it at this stage but hard to know, Donnelly was pretty enthusiastic about the meeting he did in Arklow and the canvassing he had done down there

gcgirl

We have 3 FGs that's enough for me need 2 decent leftys

Dannygirl

Blowfish wrote: »

Thats actually pretty good for Donnelly. Brady should have gotten a load more from Labour, but didn't. Donnelly should get more than Brady from both Fitzgerald and any surplus from Doyle, so he has every chance.

I hope you're right.

westtip

ergo wrote: »

After count 16

John Brady (SF) 9037
Stephen Donnelly (Ind) 8980
Andrew Doyle (FG) 11991
Anne Ferris (Lab) 10243
Pat Fitzgerald (FF) 7004
Simon Harris (FG) 10901
Billy Timmins (FG) 10729

Need to triple check Brady’s, not 100% sure I heard correct. Edit: yeah, looks right

Doyle elected as exceeds quota

This is looking good to keep the shinner out,what a result that would be - please tell me the fools who voted FF did not transfer to the shinners. donnelly needs to outdo Brady by 58 votes to keep him out - am I right? I think so. Either way there is going to be a total recount, this could go on for days! The shinners need to be watched with those bundles - slipping into the duffle coats, they do like to nick the odd bundle of paper they just keep thinking Northern bank Northern bank Northern bank - watch them carefully they will be out to defraud Donnelly of his place in the Dail.

Whats more - the fact there are no FF's in Wicklow is the icing on the cake. If you end up with three FGs a labour lapdog to add to the coalition and a good free market thinking intelectual rightie to help out if Labour get shirty that will be a real result.