C&H General Election Thread

flyswatter · 13-02-2011 7:50pm

Here's mine.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 13-02-2011 9:13pm

http://finegael2011.com/valentine.asp

'Labour are red, Fine Gael are blue
We wont increase your taxes like they want to do'

Excuse me while I puke....

Namlub · 13-02-2011 9:15pm

I'm kind of glad I'm too young to vote tbh, because I'd be having a serious dilemma about finding anyone to vote for. I think there are only 6 people running in my constituency; I wouldn't vote FF or SF or for any of those Christian Solidarity (?) type parties and I'm liking the idea of Fine Gael being in power less and less - they seem to be extremely conservative and I'm not sure about Enda Kenny as taoiseach. So yeah, pirate party ftw.

flyswatter · 13-02-2011 9:17pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

http://finegael2011.com/valentine.asp

'Labour are red, Fine Gael are blue
We wont increase your taxes like they want to do'

Excuse me while I puke....

That link is really cringeworthy. Yuck!

Grindylow · 13-02-2011 9:18pm

Why is everyone getting into the green one? :P

Are the other ones the evil peoples ones or something? :pac:

eVeNtInE · 13-02-2011 9:22pm

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kev9100 · 13-02-2011 9:34pm

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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I've been hearing that quite a lot recently. I'm voting Labour/Left so I'm obviously biased but I really don't see the appeal. One of the biggest non-ideological criticisms of the last gov. was independents milking the system
so they could get their pet projects. When a gov. needs independents to survive this is bound to happen time and time again.

Also having a coalition of the Right after laissez-faire capatilism got us into this mess doesn't appeal either.

Namlub · 13-02-2011 9:37pm

The time is now for an effective Christian Party to be supported so that it can eventually win Dáil seats, and influence and change laws and policy in favour of Christian principles, and can challenge the secular and humanist agenda of all the political parties represented in Dáil Éireann.

The CSP is firmly opposed to divorce because of its socially destructive effects, and we will work for the repeal of the fifteenth Amendment to the Constitution.

Careful now.

eVeNtInE · 13-02-2011 9:41pm

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Namlub · 13-02-2011 9:45pm

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Why is everyone getting into the green one? :P

Are the other ones the evil peoples ones or something? :pac:

Apparently that Hitler guy did some crappy things, idk...

unknown13 · 13-02-2011 9:51pm

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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Co-location.
The learner driver laws.
The proposed mandatory health insurance scheme.
Not punishing the bankers that fúcked up the country.

They are right wing policies or decisions that the government have made recently.

kev9100 · 13-02-2011 9:56pm

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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While I admit describng FF as right-wing is a stretch, they did and still do embrace an almost entirely unregulated style of capitilism and FG/IND gov. would do the same. I'm not calling for the abolition of the market or capitilism, but instead far more government regulation and protections.

Grindylow · 13-02-2011 10:06pm

Namlub wrote: »

Apparently that Hitler guy did some crappy things, idk...

Idk I heard he was all for freeing the Jews..

Who's Friedman?

eVeNtInE · 13-02-2011 10:21pm

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Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 13-02-2011 10:30pm

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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Hes a pretty good example of a certain line of economic thought though.

Grindylow · 13-02-2011 10:33pm

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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Ohh I know that guy! Adam Smith ftw

sock puppet · 13-02-2011 11:33pm

That Fine Gael valentines is ridiculous. Whoever does their PR should be shot. It's just cock up after cock up with them.

unknown13 wrote: »

The learner driver laws.

Not punishing the bankers that fúcked up the country.

How on earth are these right wing policies?

unknown13 · 13-02-2011 11:42pm

sock puppet wrote: »

How on earth are these right wing policies?

Learner drivers laws - people now have to pay more and more before they do the test. They have to pay for lessons.

Not punishing the bankers - The bankers fúcked up the country. They (FF) let it pass for no reason. Bankers are considered middle to upper class. Hence why it was a right wing decision. Note; I said policies / decisions in that post.

Pygmalion · 13-02-2011 11:54pm

sock puppet wrote: »

How on earth are these right wing policies?

I dunno if you're joking or not, but can you explain to me what part of letting the bankers get away with it isn't a right-wing decision?

There was a disgraceful lack of regulation in that sector for far too long, and when **** goes down the blame is placed on everyone but those in charge and it's up to everyone else to take a hit.

Bottleopener · 14-02-2011 12:04am

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

http://finegael2011.com/valentine.asp

'Labour are red, Fine Gael are blue
We wont increase your taxes like they want to do'

Excuse me while I puke....

I got a far worse one through the door today from Sinn Féin candidate Seán Crowe >_<, a really terrible Valentines themed election pamphlet.

EDIT:

Further left than I thought I'd be, a lot of loaded questions.

MavisDavis · 14-02-2011 12:40am

The Fine Gael Valentine's thing is just a joke, people really need to get over themselves..

Pygmalion · 14-02-2011 12:44am

MavisDavis wrote: »

The Fine Gael Valentine's thing is just a joke, people really need to get over themselves..

Jokes have no place in politics etc.
This is almost as bad as that time they went around lynching gay people or whatever.

>.>

Bottleopener wrote: »

Further left than I thought I'd be, a lot of loaded questions.

Some of us are far more to the left than you tbh >.>

Also you can't have something like this without loaded questions tbh, the entire point is to see which incredibly loaded/biased statements you agree with.

Bottleopener · 14-02-2011 12:58am

Pygmalion wrote: »

Some of us are far more to the left than you tbh >.>

Nah, my main surprise there was I'd done this test before, and thought my views had changed a bit in the last year :P. I expected to still be in the bottom left hand quarter - just a bit closer to the centre. When I've really stayed in the same place on the left-right spectrum and moved further down on the y axis.

Good point about the loaded q's.

sock puppet · 14-02-2011 1:12am

Pygmalion wrote: »

I dunno if you're joking or not, but can you explain to me what part of letting the bankers get away with it isn't a right-wing decision?

There was a disgraceful lack of regulation in that sector for far too long, and when **** goes down the blame is placed on everyone but those in charge and it's up to everyone else to take a hit.

What makes it right wing though? Left wing governments have done all that too.

MavisDavis wrote: »

The Fine Gael Valentine's thing is just a joke, people really need to get over themselves..

There's this, the James Bond crap, the farcial posters. Whoever makes these decisions is just clueless.

unknown13 wrote: »

Learner drivers laws - people now have to pay more and more before they do the test. They have to pay for lessons.

And? The decision was made for road safety reasons etc. It doesn't really register on the political spectrum. If anything it could be seen as making the country more of a Nanny state.

KnifeWRENCH · 14-02-2011 1:20am

sock puppet wrote: »

There's this, the James Bond crap, the farcial posters. Whoever makes these decisions is just clueless.

Ah now! Whatever about the Valentines and James Bond crap, those psychedelic/paintball posters were freakin' awesome!

MavisDavis · 14-02-2011 1:21am

sock puppet wrote: »

There's this, the James Bond crap, the farcial posters. Whoever makes these decisions is just clueless.

Or trying to get people talking about politics. You're talking about FG now, aren't you? Lighten up!

Bottleopener · 14-02-2011 1:22am

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

Ah now! Whatever about the Valentines and James Bond crap, those psychedelic/paintball posters were freakin' awesome!

As is the thread they inspired over in Cool Vids + Pics + Links

Davidius · 14-02-2011 1:28am

MavisDavis wrote: »

Or trying to get people talking about politics. You're talking about FG now, aren't you? Lighten up!

Getting people to talk about politics in the run up to a general election seems a bit redundant.

Pygmalion · 14-02-2011 1:33am

sock puppet wrote: »

What makes it right wing though? Left wing governments have done all that too.

Left wing generally tends towards much more regulation on businesses (something violently opposed by most of the right) and much more punishment for a business' bad decisions.
Neither of which were shown here.

I won't say left wing governments haven't done stuff like that, but IMO any government claiming to be left wing and then letting the banks get away with such unregulated and unsustainable practices is either left wing in name only, or incredibly incompetent (or both).

unknown13 · 14-02-2011 1:34am

sock puppet wrote: »

What makes it right wing though? Left wing governments have done all that too.

Right wing parties are generally more favored to the middle and upper classes of society. Do you think the bankers would be living where they are today if Sinn Fein or Labour were in power in the last Dail term

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