Republic of Ireland Nations Cup Squad

TheRedDevil10

would love to see this line up on tuesday

westwood
kelly o'dea st ledger clark
coleman wilson fahey duff
long stokes

Colmo52

Stokes is on standby so he might get a callup.

Mr.Nice Guy

Disappointing to hear McCarthy is out. I think he's the best hope for central midfield we have at the moment and I agree that without playing in games like this there's no way Trap will pick him for a qualifier. I feared there would be a good few withdrawals due to the timing of the matches. I'd like to see a team along these lines:

Given

O'Shea
Dunne
St Ledger
Clark

Coleman
Fahey
Wilson
Duff

Doyle
Walters

TheRedDevil10

From FAI website regarding keane and mccarthy pull outs.

"Keane sustained a calf injury during West Ham United's game against Birmingham City today which caused him to pull out while McCarthy has been withdrawn by his club."

shower of *****

btw trap has just said at his press conference that clark and coleman WILL start

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Our only truly quality CM's are McCarthy and possibly Meyler. At this rate, we won't the partnership until the bloody WC 2014 qualifying campaign. I get depressed when I think back to our options 10, even 6 years ago compared to now.

bazual

Would love to see us play a formation like Liverpool are currently playing but a bit more attack minded buts its Trap after all

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St Ledger

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Dunne

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O'Shea

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Clark

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Lawrence

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Whelan

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Duff

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Doyle

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Long

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Mr.Nice Guy

RTE asking Trap about McCarthy's absence. Not sure that's wise. Don't want to see a club vs country row.

The_Kew_Tour

Ireland team just named

Given, O'Shea, Dunne, St Ledger, Clark; Coleman, Whelan, Gibson/Green, Duff; Walters, Doyle.

roryc

Walters?

The_Kew_Tour

roryc wrote: »

Walters?

keane and Best both ruled out with injury

roryc

What about Long, Keogh and Stokes?

The_Kew_Tour

roryc wrote: »

What about Long, Keogh and Stokes?

Your guess is as good as mine.

Maybe some game time.

Surprised Long is not starting as he on fire with Reading

Kristian_

Glen Whelan still starting!
We are so fooked for Euro 2012!
I can't wait for Trap to go after we fail to qualify AGAIN.

Mars Bar

How I wish McCarthy was available.

It's a sad day when you have to choose between Gibson and Green. He shouldn't have to be picking either of them.

Coillte_Bhoy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

RTE asking Trap about McCarthy's absence. Not sure that's wise. Don't want to see a club vs country row.

Of coourse they are going to ask him. Why wouldnt they?

Fr Tod Umptious

mars bar wrote: »

How I wish McCarthy was available.

It's a sad day when you have to choose between Gibson and Green. He shouldn't have to be picking either of them.

Tony O Donoughe was on Sunday Sport last night on Rdaio 1 and he was talking about the McCarthy withdrawal.

He mentioned something that caught my attention, he made a reference , in a questioning manner, about McCarthy's commitment to Ireland

The interviewer then went down the road of asking if McCarthy has been capped in an official game and whether the upcoming game v Wales is classed as a friendly or a official international.

I found it interesting, after all the huppla about McCarthy not declaring for Scotland is he now having second thoughts

When will he get the chance to be fully capped also, if Trap is reluctant to call him up for friendlies he is hardly going to throw him in to an official game unless he is really stuck.

Mars Bar

Well Trap did call him up. Wigan withdrew him.

will1977

Tean now announced, although they have only named 10 players !

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101532:ireland-team-named-carling-nations-opener&catid=1:senior-men&Itemid=8

Jax Teller

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Tony O Donoughe was on Sunday Sport last night on Rdaio 1 and he was talking about the McCarthy withdrawal.

He mentioned something that caught my attention, he made a reference , in a questioning manner, about McCarthy's commitment to Ireland

The interviewer then went down the road of asking if McCarthy has been capped in an official game and whether the upcoming game v Wales is classed as a friendly or a official international.

I found it interesting, after all the huppla about McCarthy not declaring for Scotland is he now having second thoughts

When will he get the chance to be fully capped also, if Trap is reluctant to call him up for friendlies he is hardly going to throw him in to an official game unless he is really stuck.

Your reading too much into it , he's only back from injury and has only played a couple of games , Wigan just don't want him doing damage to his leg again so soon a bit of rest this week will do him the world of good

Mars Bar

will1977 wrote: »

Tean now announced, although they have only named 10 players !

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101532:ireland-team-named-carling-nations-opener&catid=1:senior-men&Itemid=8

Well, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who read that four or five times and thought there was only 10 players. Duffer is missing from that list...

The_Kew_Tour

James McCarthy situation would make me little nervous till I see him play in a proper international.

But agree that I think it's best for Wigan if he does not play as he young kid and only coming back from long lay off, but you will always get people reading into these things.

TheRedDevil10

delighted he has named coleman right wing

The_Kew_Tour

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

delighted he has named coleman right wing

should been in November.

TheRedDevil10

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

should been in November.

I know but i was afraid he was going to play him right back

Banjaxed82

Surely Trap has to play Gibson instead of Green. With no Lawrence we're pretty devoid of anyone who can cross a ball from set-pieces (where we usually score most of our goals).

LeeroyJones

Gibson must start, or should I say Green must NOT start!

newballsplease

lads does or has anyone actually seen much Derby games or Paul Green playing much? what the hell does trap see in him? Gibson has been fairly bad for utd lately but id still play him ahead of green. but ive only saw green play the few times with Ireland. Delightd Coleman and clark starts.

Tchaikovsky

I'd say that any second thoughts that McCarthy may have had over choosing to declare for Ireland were put to bed with the sectarian abuse he suffered at away grounds when he was playing in Scotland.

The_Kew_Tour

LeeroyJones wrote: »

Gibson must start, or should I say Green must NOT start!

The latter

TheRedDevil10

Green has played 27 of Derby's 29 league games this season, the second most of their squad

FlawedGenius

Im actually surprised Trap is starting Coleman:rolleyes:
November was a perfect time to start him or at least throw him on when we needed a goal in the last 20 mins of the match.
I heard Mcarthy promised his Grandad before he died that he would declare for Ireland, only that makes me confident he will declare for us even if Trap doesnt play him for the next 12 months.

Green again?? That really is woeful and is imo a sackable offence. Theres better players in the LSL and LOI.:rolleyes:

Stevecw

Crazy that Green is going to start again. He is hopelessly out of his depth at international level. I can understand Whelan starting as he needs a game after being left out by Stoke pretty much all season.

I think from what's in the squad Fahey should be in cm beside him. Gibson is hopeless too as shown by his last 2 Utd games.

Delighted to see Coleman start on right mf, and Clark getting a start too.

Walters starting is not totally unexpected, as Long picked up an injury last week that was expected to keep him out for a week or 2, but played 90 mins on Sat for Reading. So he is probably not 100% and would be better off not playing a full game.

Would have liked to see Stokes called up & not Keogh when Robbie pulled out.

Hope Westwood gets a half in goal, and that Fahey gets a half in cm too.

LeeroyJones

Stevecw wrote: »

Crazy that Green is going to start again. He is hopelessly out of his depth at international level. I can understand Whelan starting as he needs a game after being left out by Stoke pretty much all season.

I think from what's in the squad Fahey should be in cm beside him. Gibson is hopeless too as shown by his last 2 Utd games.

Delighted to see Coleman start on right mf, and Clark getting a start too.

Walters starting is not totally unexpected, as Long picked up an injury last week that was expected to keep him out for a week or 2, but played 90 mins on Sat for Reading. So he is probably not 100% and would be better off not playing a full game.

Would have liked to see Stokes called up & not Keogh when Robbie pulled out.

Hope Westwood gets a half in goal, and that Fahey gets a half in cm too.

I actually feel sorry for Gibson as he is just the fall-guy in a greater midfield problem at United. Prior to the 2 games you eluded to he actually had quite a good game at home to Birmingham and I think it's performances like that which makes SAF persist with him so he can get an ounce of consistency!

He was dropped on the weekend after performances from those around him which were no better/worse than his but as the fall-guy he felt the chop first. United's lacklustre midfield performance against Wolves highlights the fact that the issue isn't Gibson but the whole unit bar Scholes/Giggs.

I hope Trap selects Gibson tomorrow and hopefully give him some confidence to work with!

Pro. F

LeeroyJones wrote: »

I actually feel sorry for Gibson as he is just the fall-guy in a greater midfield problem at United. Prior to the 2 games you eluded to he actually had quite a good game at home to Birmingham and I think it's performances like that which makes SAF persist with him so he can get an ounce of consistency!

He was dropped on the weekend after performances from those around him which were no better/worse than his but as the fall-guy he felt the chop first. United's lacklustre midfield performance against Wolves highlights the fact that the issue isn't Gibson but the whole unit bar Scholes/Giggs.

I hope Trap selects Gibson tomorrow and hopefully give him some confidence to work with!

Gibson is not the fall-guy. He has been nothing but shíte for United this season. His performances were worse than those around him, which took some doing. There is a serious lack of talent in the United midfield, but that doesn't make Gibson any better.

What's the story with Fahey? Is he fit and in the squad? And if so why is he not starting?

Edit: just read around (should have done that first off!) and found that Fahey wasn't included in the squad. I can't think of any sensible reason for this. Am I missing something?

FlawedGenius

Pro. F wrote: »

Gibson is not the fall-guy. He has been nothing but shíte for United this season. His performances were worse than those around him, which took some doing. There is a serious lack of talent in the United midfield, but that doesn't make Gibson any better.

What's the story with Fahey? Is he fit and in the squad? And if so why is he not starting?

Edit: just read around (should have done that first off!) and found that Fahey wasn't included in the squad. I can't think of any sensible reason for this. Am I missing something?

Yeah Trappatoni is the worst manager weve ever had and its an absolute disgrace the players he has overlooked:mad:

Stevecw

Pro. F wrote: »

Gibson is not the fall-guy. He has been nothing but shíte for United this season. His performances were worse than those around him, which took some doing. There is a serious lack of talent in the United midfield, but that doesn't make Gibson any better.

What's the story with Fahey? Is he fit and in the squad? And if so why is he not starting?

Edit: just read around (should have done that first off!) and found that Fahey wasn't included in the squad. I can't think of any sensible reason for this. Am I missing something?

He wasn't included in original squad, while Green was! Sums up Trap perfectly for me. Hate his approach, his tactics and can't see us qualify from what is a weakish group. If he keeps going with a mf of Whelan + Green/Gibson we can forget about it.

Wouldn't put it past him to go with Kilbane at lb v Macedonia next month too, even if Clark has a motm display tomorrow night.

Hope i'm proved wrong, but doubt it somehow

Banjaxed82

Stevecw wrote: »

Wouldn't put it past him to go with Kilbane at lb v Macedonia next month too, even if Clark has a motm display tomorrow night.

Barring a Police Academy performance from Clark tomorrow night, I doubt we'll see Kilbane play again.

SantryRed

Trappatoni is completely past it. Trap out.

Dimitri

I don't think Gibson offers much but I think him and fahey offer far more then Whelan/Green. Fahey is an a far better player then Whelan and I do believe that Anyone can offer more then Green, his past performances have been awful while Gibsons performance for UTD have been woeful they are less woeful then Greens and against better opposition and as a UTD I have no qualms in saying that Gibson has been playing no worse then the people alongside him.

Cypher_sounds

Right, what way is this cup run? i see Scotland are playing N.Ireland at Lansdowne on Wednesday.

Are all the games in this cup in Dublin and how many times do each team play each other?

Coillte_Bhoy

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Right, what way is this cup run? i see Scotland are playing N.Ireland at Lansdowne on Wednesday.

Are all the games in this cup in Dublin and how many times do each team play each other?

yes and once.

Cypher_sounds

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

yes and once.

So the winners of the cup could well be decided on goal difference? or is their going be a 'final' even?

Anyone see the cup yet?

builttospill

A friend of mine has heard from a reliable source who knows McCarthy's family in Scotland that McCarthy will defect back to the Scottish international set-up if he keeps getting overlooked by Trapp. Now I heard this on Saturday night so his withdrawal from the squad since then has baffled me. I don't know what to make of it cos there are a few conclusions one could draw from it.

Banjaxed82

This whole McCarthy thing is ridiculous. Why doesn't Trap just bring him over to Macedonia and stick him on in the 89th minute? Be done with all this suspense.

tonycascarino

I have enough of that senile old fool. Hope he goes soon tbh. He can have Paul Green all he likes then.

builttospill

I'm enraged about the whole thing. The fact that our best centre-midfield prospect for years may not get to play for us because of bad management and stubborness is just mind-boggling. All that needs to be done is for him to have a run on for a couple of mins in a competitive match. The powers that be have been so incompetent that this has never materialised. They've had about 4 years to do it. He was playing week in week out for Hamilton as a teenager when we badly needed players in the centre of midfield. So fcuk if he was a teenager. All the best footballing countries in the world pick the best players from a young age.

It drove me up the wall watching Brady on the RTE panel not so long ago appear dumbfounded when Bill told him that McCarthy could defect as he had not played a competitive game for the Republic. Brady was the assistant manager when McCarthy was froze out for fcuks sake. How the hell were they so incompetent that they didn't know this?

Le King

James McCarthy will be a huge loss for us. Apparently his agent is talking to to Scotland atm. Joke by Trap.

tonycascarino

Le King wrote: »

James McCarthy will be a huge loss for us. Apparently his agent is talking to to Scotland atm. Joke by Trap.

Trapattoni is the joke.

TheRedDevil10

SUBS for tomorrow night: Westwood, Kelly, O'Dea, Wilson, Fahey, Gibson or Green, Keogh, Long. Six of the eight can be used.

Stevecw

Nice one Trap, don't just exile Andy Reid, but go lose McCarthy too. But sure we still have Paul Green so we're grand!! Idiot, old fool gonna lose us any chance of qualifying from such a weak group.