N4 - Downs Grade Separation

JupiterKid

veryangryman wrote: »

Two daft reasons no offence.

Go through town is one alternative. That's the only way past naas and portlaoise which have motorways.

As for having enough already are you having a laugh. M20 and M18 are badly needed in full and that's before I worry about my own interests.

If you read my post you would have noted that I mentioned "excepting the M20" I'm also presuming that the M17/18 project which is in the pipeline is also going ahead.

After the M20 is built, I see no need for any more motorways. Widening of some existing motorway stretches yes, upgrading some junctions yes, high quality DCs on sections of the network certainly, but not motorway. Some would argue that the M2, M9 and M3 are examples of overbuilding. Ireland now has far more motorway per head of population than the UK and has gone from having one of the lowest to one of the highest in Europe in just the past decade.

spacetweek

I don't see any official announcement that this is completed, anyone got one?

spacetweek

Got this mail from the NRA.


Dear Mr. <Spacetweek>

Thank you for your email of 17 July 2013 regarding the above.

At the outset I should explain that the implementation of individual road improvement schemes is normally undertaken by local authorities in their roles as road authorities for their respective administrative areas. In the case of the N4 Downs Grade Separation scheme, the scheme is being implemented by Westmeath County Council.

I understand that a Road Safety Audit was recently carried out on the scheme, and the contractor (SIAC Construction Ltd.) is still dealing with the outcome of the safety audit and other outstanding issues. This should be complete in the very near future.

I hope this is of assistance to you.

Kind regards
Olivia Morgan

marno21

Is it tim to revisit this and bring it up to full motorway standard especially with further dualling planned north of Mullingar?

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2018/0527/966363-crash-n4/

L1011

Based on the solid line, that was a motorway section of the road already

The Roadhouse would probably have to be closed and some parallel access roads built to allow it anyway - not the cheapest.

Accidentally

It's in the twilight zone like the N6 Athlone bypass. It's safer than an awful lot of the N4/N5, so is there really any priority compared to the rest?

roadmaster

marno21 wrote: »

Is it tim to revisit this and bring it up to full motorway standard especially with further dualling planned north of Mullingar?

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2018/0527/966363-crash-n4/

We have talked about this before. It can be done but it would be costly, but if put in with the longford mullingar contract value for money could be got

roadmaster

L1011 wrote: »

Based on the solid line, that was a motorway section of the road already

The Roadhouse would probably have to be closed and some parallel access roads built to allow it anyway - not the cheapest.

I would say you would have to pay the roadhouse enoght money to shut permently as to make access work you would have to drive to the downs and back. At that stage most people would keep driving. The two topaz stations would need proper entrances. On the southside one they could exit via the old n4 .

Zerbini Blewitt

It wasn’t a road quality issue anyway (report).

A 39-year-old man, who died following a three-car collision on the N4 dual carriageway near Mullingar, was driving on the wrong side of the road, gardaí said.
Gardaí received reports car was travelling in the wrong direction for nearly 50km, and at speed of over 120km/h before the crash.

roadmaster

if an upgrade of this section of the N4 was to take place you could build a overbridge at the end of the L1703 (old N4) across to the northern side of the N4. Then run a new road parallel to the N4 and connect it up at the end of the R156 where the old Downs Junction was. The only question is do you go around the Roadhouse or through it?

CrabRevolution

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

It wasn’t a road quality issue anyway (report).

I'm curious as to how he could have driven in the wrong direction for 50km.

Assuming the whole 50km was along the N4/M4 it would involve either driving the wrong way around a roundabout or a hairpin turn off the roundabout onto the off ramp of the (Eastbound) M4 lane. He'd also have had to drive through the Enfield Toll the wrong direction, which you'd imagine is impossible.

Unless he was driving on the M6 and got onto the M4? Or was driving the wrong way down national roads before turning on to the dual carriage way?

roadmaster

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I'm curious as to how he could have driven in the wrong direction for 50km.

Assuming the whole 50km was along the N4/M4 it would involve either driving the wrong way around a roundabout or a hairpin turn off the roundabout onto the off ramp of the (Eastbound) M4 lane. He'd also have had to drive through the Enfield Toll the wrong direction, which you'd imagine is impossible.

Unless he was driving on the M6 and got onto the M4? Or was driving the wrong way down national roads before turning on to the dual carriage way?

Apperently the car came from the applegreen on the M4. Other media revised the distance down to 30km so that would roughly tie in on distance

veryangryman

The hicks love to exxagerate things in the midlands.

I saw a place in Ballymahon for sale advertised as "5 minutes drive from Athlone".

SeanW

veryangryman wrote: »

The hicks love to exxagerate things in the midlands.

I saw a place in Ballymahon for sale advertised as "5 minutes drive from Athlone".

Candidate for Moronic Post of the Century right there.

Because literally no-one outside the Irish Midlands has ever over-hyped something? No-one else on the planet has ever oversold anything in all of human history? Just one real estate advertiser overhyped their property and that means that literally all Midlands people are gob****e hicks who love to exaggerate everything.

By the way, if you're going to call people hicks, it might be a good idea to learn how to spell. It's "exaggerate". One x. Two gs.

veryangryman

I like to focus on areas i'm familiar with so that i can fact check. Of course it goes on elsewhere, but i have many more examples that I'll share if your interested.

Spelling mistake aside, clear lies like "i'd be quicker going to ballinasloe or roscommon" when moaners mention the roadworks boil my piss and introduce the need to refer to them as hicks.