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Video games: now training terroists apparently

  • 25-01-2011 11:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭


    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/russian-media-points-to-moscow-airport-attack-in-u-s-video-game/


    Nothing like a bit of media hysteria, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is getting blamed for "influencing" the suicide bombing in a Russian airport recently. Those dastardly games developers, clearing being funded by the nwo to train people to carry out terrorist attacks with the xbox joypads.

    Why does the media keep creating scapegoats? Modern Warfare 2 was released in November 2009, suicide bombings have been happening for years. Did life imitate art or the other way around? This is the "No Russian" level in question if anyone hasnt seen it before, it garnered a ton of controversy on the games release:



    I thought this was a bold inclusion to put in a video game, remember this is an adult rated game, marketed to adults, not kids. Kids play it because their parents buy it for them. This basically put you in control of a terrorist (really an FBI agent under cover, but that becomes part of the bigger plot of the game) who is part of a massacre in a Russian airport, orchestrated by a terrorist who wants to ignite the flames that will lead to Russia declaring war on and invading the US. Its all very Tom Clancy stuff, its not meant to make you feel good shooting people (you also have the choice not to, errrr, the guy playing in the video doesnt go with this choice)

    So are video games to be blamed for all the evils in todays society?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    You could say that Monopoly has a lot to answer for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    Well unless the terrorists walked slowly though the airport with NO option to speed up then it was nothing like real life.

    Worst over hyped scene ever!

    Computer games don't affect kids...I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, We'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Yes, because nothing horrible has ever happened anywhere in the world without the influence of videogames.


    Obviously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I knew MW2 would be brought up at some stage when i first heard this story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Noodleworm


    They always do it, and everyone gives kids the games still. Ive seen a 8 year old in Gamestop pre-ordering Black Ops a while back.
    Sure wasn't Doom blames for the columbine massacre?

    Don't really see the connection with suicide bombing really, Theres no skill to be learned in that game, its just go in guns blazing.
    their not being shown how to make and conceal bombs or anything...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    I guess the old Microsoft Flight Simulators have a lot to answer for in regards to September 11th.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    They do?? Jesus I'm surprised I havent been recruited by some terrorist cell the amount I kill myself in video games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    should ban all video games and also rap/rock music - Back in my day we didnt have half what the kids have now and now they're all spoilt and fat little terrorists!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭Br4tPr1nc3


    if thats the case, then the british army should be to blame,
    they made those ads showing their officers using xbox controllers to fly their uavs and what not.

    therefore they gave terrorists the idea to use games to learn.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    That part of the game was great. I was worse than the real terrorists. They would just walk past wounded people lying on the ground whereas I riddled the fúckers. Such a laugh.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    I've clocked my fair share of hours on that game an never felt the need to blow sh*t up, me along with millions of others who play the game non-stop. there talkin out their arse tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    should ban all video games and also rap/rock music - Back in my day we didnt have half what the kids have now and now they're all spoilt and fat little terrorists!!!

    [Thinks what music was like pre 90's]

    You've got point


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    BASHIR wrote: »
    I've clocked my fair share of hours on that game an never felt the need to blow sh*t up, me along with millions of others who play the game non-stop. there talkin out their arse tbh.

    It's just the latest thing the media like to blame. In the 80's/90's it was rock/metal music and action films. Of course it's not the people who did this who are responsible for it it's gotta be something else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Simple facts:

    - The media will spin entertainment products (games, but even movies) and blame them for horrific real-world acts. So guillible people will believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    It's just the latest thing the media like to blame. In the 80's/90's it was rock/metal music and action films. Of course it's not the people who did this who are responsible for it it's gotta be something else.

    Thats true the media couldnt give a flying f**k just something to get people talking subscribing and buying papers imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    I played loads of video games as a kid and can safely say it didn't make me violent.

    Actually i'd say if anything it made me more chilled out, most of the time I just like to relax, eat a few magic mushrooms and stomp on my pet turtles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭BigDuffman


    They should just equiped the airport security with riot shields....it takes for ever to get by them ;)

    Bull ****. Will they stop children reading the bible as it mentions damnation of homosexuals, they should ban tom & jerry or children will start cutting each other up with sheers leaving nothing but a pair of startled eyeballs hovering mid air, or road runner as they will start dropping acme anvils on poor birds.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Can't you use that very same arguement then about counter terrorists, or raising alertness and such..?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not even a new phenomenon. I used to play Mortal Kombat II when I was 10 and never once felt the urge to go up to someone and slice their head off. Yet everyone was going on about it as if it was the most vile game ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Jonah42


    From what I recall, a patch was released for the Russian version of the game removing the level in question.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Eh, They have been using Video Games to recruit and train Terrorists for ages now

    http://www.americasarmy.com/downloads/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    Hitler was mad into Streets of Rage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Speaking of Mw2 can anyone unhack all the lobbys please it's pretty fúcking ridiculous at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I heard Atilla the Hun was raised playing Operation Wolf!




    => Q.E.D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭stephendevlin


    Yes I learned how to drive from practicing Grand Turisomo.....

    What a load of cockandbull


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Playing Super Mario Bros. for so long may have a detremental effect on me. Tomorrow I could be eating mushrooms, thinking I'm invincible, stomping on people's heads, and trying to crawl down their pipes.............where will it stop then!?!

    Life was so much nicer before Mortal Kombat came along and corrupted our society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    The biggest terrorist operation in the world uses a video game to attract recruits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Was the article written by the noted Russian journalist Alisona Oriordanski?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    Ban everything. Movies, music, games, books, everything. Theyre all a potentially harmful influence. I mean i read the bible once and almost felt compelled to kill my own brother.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    When I see satellite footage of 3 terrorists out the back of an airport hangar, where one repeatedly kills another while the third stands guard, then I'll start to get worried.

    It's a clear sign that they are developing nuclear weapons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    I think Hitler and Napoleon got their bloodlust from videogames tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    A good sign will be after a terrorist has killed someone they'll repeatedly teabag the victim while shouting "n00b!!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    "terrorist kills 5 and teabags victims"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    They do?? Jesus I'm surprised I havent been recruited by some terrorist cell the amount I kill myself in video games

    That's because you kill yourself, I was recruited because I'm so good at killing other people! :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    The biggest terrorist operation in the world uses a video game to attract recruits.

    It's pretty fortunate that those games are crap then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    When I see satellite footage of 3 terrorists out the back of an airport hangar, where one repeatedly kills another while the third stands guard, then I'll start to get worried.

    It's a clear sign that they are developing nuclear weapons.

    I hear the UN's anti boosting policy is in full effect these days though, nothing a semtex lobbed in over a crate wont fix :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Maybe if the terrorists played video games their anger would be sufficiently taken out against the virtual infidels.

    Free Playstations and Xbox for Terrorists
    Miniature American flags for others


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    Why would they use MW2 to train? theres loads of buttons on a controller... sure suicide bombers only need the one...


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    "Following this latest terrorist atrocity authorities have revealed that they have detained two suspects, believed to be a fat Italian plumber and a blue hedgehog." :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    Didn't the U.S. military license games like DOOM to desensitise recruits to kill, because most soldiers would shoot to miss in previous combat situations?

    You could be on to something, OP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I guess the old Microsoft Flight Simulators have a lot to answer for in regards to September 11th.

    This was actually blamed in regards to how they learned to fly. I remember seeing "in depth" analysis on news reports of why this series should be banned. I didn't know those games had a "Hijack" mission where you get up out of your seat, take over the plane and slam it into something.

    Maybe they're pointing out how the terrorists were getting one back because the Russians were hacking in a COD Team Deathmatch and absolutely nothing to do with past conflicts between regions / religion at all

    Sure, don't blame the security lapse in the airport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    C'mon, though.. who didn't enjoy the sh*te out of mowing down the fleeing masses in that airport bit? Particular fun taking out the poor saps dragging the wounded with them!

    It was sick as Fu*k but non the less brilliant stress relief.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    Didn't the U.S. military license games like DOOM to desensitise recruits to kill,

    Yeah, it was part of the training for the Great Brown Imp War of 1995.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Why does anyone even play these games anyway? They're fcuking retarded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Yeah, it was part of the training for the Great Brown Imp War of 1995.

    So many good space marines gave their lives during the Shores Of Hell and the ensuing Inferno conflicts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    games don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people.

    violent video games aren't going to turn normal people into killers, any more than NOT playing video games will turn mentally unhinged psychopaths into well adjusted normal people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Why does anyone even play these games anyway? They're fcuking retarded.

    They are great for letting off steam and their multiplayer components are fiercely competitive and a sh*t load of fun.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Corcaigh84


    The Nazis obviously got all their training playing Castle Wolfenstein


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    vibe666 wrote: »
    games don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people.

    violent video games aren't going to turn normal people into killers, any more than NOT playing video games will turn mentally unhinged psychopaths into well adjusted normal people.


    Here we go with the cliches again.

    "Better to have a gun and not need it than need it and not have it!"
    "Better to bet judged by 12 than carried by 6"

    Blah, blah, blah!

    "These colours don't run!" Blah!

    "Violent games aren't going to turn someone into a violent person anymore than NOT playing games are going to turn a psychopath into a perfectly sane person"

    Did you read that before you hit the submit button? Because it has to be the most stupid statement I've ever read in my life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Why does anyone even play these games anyway? They're fcuking retarded.

    how do you spend your time? watching football? retarded. stamp collecting? retarded. chess? retarded.

    opinions are like a'rseholes buddy...


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