Scotland A vs Ireland Wolfhounds, Fri 28 January 7:30pm

sock puppet

O'Hare try. The embarrasment.

Ciaran-Irl

So much for strength in depth.

Quint2010

Jeez thats disappointing. Anyone put their hands up?

crisco10

Quint2010 wrote: »

Jeez thats disappointing. Anyone put their hands up?

Spence and Buckley. They didnt play the 2nd half!!!

duckysauce

crisco10 wrote: »

Spence and Buckley. They didnt play the 2nd half!!!

we lost the game in the second half

irishbucsfan

Very disappointing to think Kidney isn't there. Why isn't he? His presence would surely be a motivator to the side?

heybaby

Any good performances ?

Quint2010

crisco10 wrote: »

Spence and Buckley. They didnt play the 2nd half!!!

There is no way Buckley will be picked-espcially after being taken off. It must have been an injury. He couldnt possibly have done enough in one half to be straight into the team for next sat.

Ciaran-Irl

It is possible that he gave Hagan & Buckley a half each to make a case for inclusion.

The Rooster

Quint2010 wrote: »

There is no way Buckley will be picked-espcially after being taken off. It must have been an injury. He couldnt possibly have done enough in one half to be straight into the team for next sat.

no, its simply that he's 2nd choice tight head, so dont want to risk injury in case something happens to Ross in the next week

Bogsnorkler

Word on the street is he went off with a hamstring injury

thomond2006

Wow, sounds like we were ****ing useless as per ****ing usual.

Davei141

It's probably a good thing it wasn't televised.

JustinDee

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Very disappointing to think Kidney isn't there. Why isn't he? His presence would surely be a motivator to the side?

This is why a coaching team is appointed. Its their job.

irishbucsfan

JustinDee wrote: »

This is why a coaching team is appointed. Its their job.

I never said anything about coaching the team.

Kidney has been/is/will the coach of all these players to some extent during the next few weeks. There is more than a week to go before the Italy game, I don't see what he could be doing tonight that is more important than attending this game in Scotland?

JustinDee

I guess he just doesn't care, wouldn't have anything covered and stayed at home in case he missed Bob Geldof on the Late Late Show.

B0X

JustinDee wrote: »

I guess he just doesn't care, wouldn't have anything covered and stayed at home in case he missed Bob Geldof on the Late Late Show.

Bob Geldof is irish qualified after all.

crisco10

B0X wrote: »

Bob Geldof is irish qualified after all.

And he went to the same school as BOD, fitz, Cullen et al!

Superbus

crisco10 wrote: »

And he went to the same school as BOD, fitz, Cullen et al!

And Tubridy. Don't forget Tubridy.

jolley123

The good news is O'Malley and Spence played well by the sounds of it.

phog

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Very disappointing to think Kidney isn't there. Why isn't he? His presence would surely be a motivator to the side?

Is the coach of the first team always supposed to be present for "A" games or is this another kncok Kidney post?

I dont know if he was there or not but come on what has his presence to do with the performance tonight, if these guys want to put their hand up for a position in the Irish team then they need to be able to motivate themselves and not hang around for the national coach to be present.

irishbucsfan

phog wrote: »

Is the coach of the first team always supposed to be present for "A" games or is this another kncok Kidney post?

I dont know if he was there or not but come on what has his presence to do with the performance tonight, if these guys want to put their hand up for a position in the Irish team then they need to be able to motivate themselves and not hang around for the national coach to be present.

I would think that when the coach of the national team is being paid to evaluate and assist in the improvement of these players that attending their matches would be an important aspect of his job?

Andy Robinson was there anyway, he seems to think so.

Stev_o

I don't remember EOS being in any of the previous A games we had when he was in charge.

SomeFool

crisco10 wrote: »

And he went to the same school as BOD, fitz, Cullen et al!

Can he play tighthead?

phog

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I would think that when the coach of the national team is being paid to evaluate and assist in the improvement of these players that attending their matches would be an important aspect of his job?

Andy Robinson was there anyway, he seems to think so.

Andy is the Scottish coach, the game was on in Scotland and he has probably a smaller pool of players to choose from so may need to have a direct involvement in their A setup.

BTW - in Cheika's era over Leinster I was at two Munster A v Leinster A games where Cheika wasn't there and he is credited with the success of the stream of players coming through in Leinster so having the head coach not atteding all A games cant be that bad.

Stev_o

Actually it's mostly been a case in the past of a Provincial coach being charge of the A team (Bradley and Elway).

irishbucsfan

phog wrote: »

Andy is the Scottish coach, the game was on in Scotland and he has probably a smaller pool of players to choose from so may need to have a direct involvement in their A setup.

BTW - in Cheika's era over Leinster I was at two Munster A v Leinster A games where Cheika wasn't there and he is credited with the success of the stream of players coming through in Leinster so having the head coach not atteding all A games cant be that bad.

Were those games on the same weekend as Leinster games?

If Ireland were playing I wouldn't mind as much. I just wonder what Kidney was doing tonight that kept him away from going to watch the players he's being paid to coach? Maybe Cheika didn't attend Leinster A games, I'm not saying Kidney is the only head coach who doesn't bother with these games.

During the '09 Churchill Cup the IRFU and Irish media went on about Kidney's attention to detail and his slavish work ethic, pointing to his attendance at the competition. Where is that now? Was he at John Hayes' bedside trying to rush him back for a start against Italy?

irishbucsfan

Stev_o wrote: »

Actually it's mostly been a case in the past of a Provincial coach being charge of the A team (Bradley and Elway).

But mostly the HC has attended

Cosmo Kramer

Well in a moment of lunacy I decided to head down to Galashiels after work to take in the game. Very disappointing stuff from an Irish perspective - no sign of a gameplan, or any real drive to win the match. I honestly couldn't pick out one Irish player who improved their standing based on their performance tonight.

Scotland were limited enough but were really up for it. They had a typical Scottish game plan, stuck to it and absolutely dominated us up front in the second half. What little ball we got out to the backs was wasted through poor handling and basic errors. We deserved the beating we took.

Here is a very bad quality video of the last Scottish try, but it sums up our performance on the night nicely - two minutes of throwing it back and over around half way without getting anywhere and then a turnover and a quick Scottish score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5jrHFDa3k

The game and the ground had the feel of a local club match. Instead of a typical PA, there was a lad in the middle of the stand with a laptop and itunes open playing different tracks after the scores. The players had to walk through the middle of the crowd in the stand to get to the pitch and so on.

But the SRU deserve great credit for the way they had the fixture set up - free parking, free admission and a free match programme for everyone who turned up with the option to throw a few quid in a charity box but only if you wanted to. Couldn't imagine our men in suits ever offering that for an A game!

murphym7

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I never said anything about coaching the team.

Kidney has been/is/will the coach of all these players to some extent during the next few weeks. There is more than a week to go before the Italy game, I don't see what he could be doing tonight that is more important than attending this game in Scotland?

Don't know why people are giving Kidney a hard time. Its clear why the guys didn't do the business last night - there Mums and Dads didn't go, not because Deccy wasn't there.