3 New Navy Vessels for Irish Naval Service

Larbre34

But, unless the UK sign up to a comprehensive security arrangement with the EU, as is now being demanded, we won't be purchasing any more from them.

There are excellent builders in France, Spain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Finland.

Mind you, the way things are going, neither the British nor Continental Yards are going to be sat around waiting for orders to hit the mat, they're going to be exceedingly busy for the foreseeable.

The aircraft, armour and armaments makers too.

mupper2

RUMINT and take that for what it's worth, is that the MRV has leaned away from a pure lift style ship and what's favoured now is a modified Babcock Arrowhead 140 to be built in Poland.

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123287939#Comment_123287939

Not sure that will change things one way or the other, but far more to the point of all the European yards, the U.K. is pretty much the most backlogged and with the possibility of getting worse.

zone 1

still cant see any new vessel coming this side 10 years .. they cant get 2 ships to sea why build to park it up

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123286141#Comment_123286141

Irish lights is still owned by the UK,I know there was talks of it being taken over by Ireland, maybe it has happened already ?

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123284988#Comment_123284988

Given the amount of CCTV, photos leaking from any incident involving the navy, secure communications are a bit of a waste.

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123286141#Comment_123286141

I dont think Granuaile replacement will be ready until 2032/33

Tabnabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123289055#Comment_123289055

They left about a decade ago.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123287969#Comment_123287969

Thats interesting. Obviously its a proven design, the three OGs are in service with the Royal Danish Navy and 10 No. are on the order books for Indonesia, Poland and of course the 5 ships of the Royal Navy 'Inspiration' Class general purpose frigates.

Its conventional, its rugged, its modular and adaptable, helicopter capable and its suitable to our needs. And it makes eminent sense to order from a UK-Polish consortium. We already have a good relationship with Babcock and the Polish yards are already being tooled up for the type, which means the money will go back into the EU. Who knows, maybe we'll get a few quid from the EU defence fund to tool up her 32 x VLS cells!

Either way, she'll cost something like 300 million quid, and take about 4 years to build, which is about what the scope of the project set out.

This is the newest variant, the Polish Navy 'Miecznik' design.

Interestingly, every bit of her extensive combat specification is from European makers, across France, Germany, Italy Sweden and Norway

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Tabnabs

The Danes are kicking up their naval modernisation quite a few notches. European shipyards are going to get a bit of a boom period it looks like.

Denmark Makes "Urgent" Plans to Buy Two Dozen Naval Vessels

As the security situation in the Baltic grows more complex, Denmark plans to bulk up its navy with two dozen new vessels and an array of unmanned systems. 

"The naval battlefield is characterized by a more complex risk and threat picture than before, rapid technological development and a Russia that has become more willing to escalate its course towards the West. Therefore, with the naval plan, we are initiating several urgent acquisitions that address specific challenges and threats that we face now and in the coming years," said Minister of Defense Troels Lund Poulsen.

The "urgent" track includes acquirting drones, unmanned units and equipment for subsea infrastructure monitoring. The risk of covert attacks on the seabed is real: NATO nations in the Baltic have experienced repeated subsea cable damage from merchant vessel anchor-dragging, some of which is believed to be deliberate. In addition, unidentified suspects blew up three of the four Nord Stream pipelines under the Baltic in 2022, an unprecedented maritime security breach.

The order list includes four multipurpose ships that can be used for maritime surveillance, pollution response and mine laying. Denmark's existing pollution-prevention vessels are nearing end of life, and "it is common sense that the [replacement] vessels can assist with naval military tasks such as maritime surveillance, monitoring of critical underwater infrastructure and mine laying in light of the security policy situation," said Minister of Public Security Torsten Schack Pedersen. 

The Danish Navy's Home Guard will also get 21 new vessels for patrol duties. Down the road, the newbuild program includes options for buying a new class of frigates and vessels for open-ocean operation in the Arctic and the North Atlantic. 

Given recent tensions over Danish-controlled Greenland, U.S. weapons systems appear unlikely to make the naval procurement list. The chairman of Denmark's parliamentary defense committee said last month that he regretted buying $3 billion worth of American-made F-35 fighters, because the U.S. could potentially shut off the parts supply chain for leverage.

"Buying American weapons is a security risk that we cannot run. We will make enormous investments in air defense, fighter jets, artillery, and other weapons in the coming years, and we must avoid American weapons if at all possible," said Rasmus Jarlov of the Conservative People's Party.

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/denmark-makes-urgent-plans-to-buy-two-dozen-naval-vessels

blindsider

Denmark are not messing around. Maersk bought the Panama Railway Company yesterday

Yahoo Finance: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/denmarks-maersk-buys-panama-canal-145430574.html

and now they're saying that they will "avoid American weapons if at all possible".

This could be a sign of how the EU intends to combat Trump's Tariffs. Doesn't bode well for the US defence industry….

blindsider

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/russia-secret-war-uk-waters-submarines-dpbzphfx5

Sunday Times today. (Paywall)

Quite close to home - makes our upcoming purchases even more critical…..

Tabnabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123332848#Comment_123332848

A retired RN guy on the radio this morning saying the Russian's had learned the trick from the American's and were doing the same thing that NATO had been doing to them. His argument was mainly that this was a diversion from the real need to have more vessels in the same class as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFA_Proteus to be surveying and protecting the underwater cabal network and communication nodes.

thomil

This is not strictly a navy story, but the new 35-meter cutter for the Irish Customs service has been launched at Armon shipyard in Spain:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mauric-ship-design_irish-cutter-launch-armon-astilleros-mauric-activity-7320469588138196992-6jf7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAABV0oowB50gw9pYYXEPISux1JmSVrJ20FkU

Looks like a nice bit of kit, to be fair.

Edit: Apparently, LinkedIn won't allow me to embed the post here…

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123384076#Comment_123384076

It is just surveillance work they do unless they have the navy looking over there shoulder with an armed boarding party waiting to go help them if there boarding goes wrong?