3 New Navy Vessels for Irish Naval Service

satguy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120716561#Comment_120716561

Also our new boats will come in very handy for making sure fishing boats are not catching fish that are too small/young.

And that all nets are the correct size.

That is if we have enough crew to even push off from the dock..

Larbre34

Um, yes?

Fishery protection will be one of their very specific tasks, which everyone knows.....

satguy

So nearly €30 million so we can see if fishing nets are ok.

What a waste of our hard earned money,, Lets just hope our TD's don't start wasting more money on some rusty old fighter jets..

mupper2

Lads I have a inkling someone's using a sock for ban evasion.

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120717978#Comment_120717978

Let’s not be hasty, could just a garden variety Troll.

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120717942#Comment_120717942

Pray tell why not?

RavenP

Sounds like a certain architect is posting here...Perhaps he will add to his suggestion of the RAF providing Ireland's AD, with a similar suggestion that the RN patrol's Irish waters. I think the guy might want to return to the fold of mother England, cause that always worked so well in the past.

sparky42

An update on the two new hulls, manpower still the core issue

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41162914.html

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120717942#Comment_120717942

When you consider that the Irish sea fisheries industry is worth a Billion Euro and supports over 10,000 jobs, many in rural communities, then the purchase of two inshore vessels to help protect that and enforce conservation rules, seems like an absolute bargain, wouldn't you say?

Of course these vessels are also intended to support customs and excise enforcement now that GB operates as a separate market. And they will also assist in SAR and other security and ATCP tasks.

But then you knew all that, didn't you Delusiondestroyer?

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120718793#Comment_120718793

A lot of GFE to be fitted yet. A process made slower due to the lack of technicians in the NS, and the focus on getting the OPV overseas.

Once they are up and running, expect to see them where you never saw a naval vessel before. They are very manouverable in tight spaces, and the NZ navy use theirs to train watchkeeping officers about manoeuvring in confined waters. Great article about this in the latest NZ Navy magazine (available online).

Markcheese

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120719279#Comment_120719279

When you say supports , you dont mean that there are 10,000 jobs from the fishing industry ? ,

The state is pushing for bigger and bigger boats , (which arent built here) ,

A lot of the crews are from ovérseas , many living on the boats ,

Most of the catch is exported direct , no further processing,

And for this we're trawling the sea beds , or hoovering up mackeral and herring ..

mupper2

I know there has been some (at times nerdy but interesting) debate on the ability or lack thereof of the NS undersea surveillance capability and the common answer seems to be we need full on ASW helo/fixed wing AC...what about something Airbus &Thales are working on.

The VSR700 UAV with Sonobouy/MAD/depth charge capability..I think it's fairly clear whatever ships come in the future will need to be fitted out for UAS ops

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120775794#Comment_120775794

I presume you live well inland?

Markcheese

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120775971#Comment_120775971

Not really ,

Know fishermen , have friends from fishing families,

Originally policy and support for the fishing industry was about keeping jobs in isolated areas , and thats not a bad thing ,

But as time as gone on , policy is moving away from supporting small fishermen and smaller boats , to bigger tonage bigger horse power based at regional ports ,

I doubt the entire fishing industry provides 10,000 jobs in ireland , let alone the irish sea fisheries - and that includes on shore jobs like processing, Maintenance, refrigeration .

Larbre34

Take it up with BIM, it's only their figures being quoted here, it's not a fisheries forum.

roadmaster

An article on the company hired to try and get ERAs etc. It says we are losing crew the the Royal Navy. Is that true?

https://maritime-executive.com/article/lacking-skilled-sailors-irish-navy-hires-recruiter-for-global-search

Dohvolle

I read a similar article elsewhere, and the inference was we had the same problem as the RN, losing skilled crew to the civilian sector. I know of nobody in the Irish NS who has left to join the RN. Their T&Cs are much worse than ours.

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120801058#Comment_120801058

Yeah i was thinking that it seams who ever wrote the articlebwas ripping it off somewhere else

Dohvolle

New Motor Launch for the NSR being built in Kerry at present.

Looks pretty solid.

As part of the ongoing regeneration of the Naval Service Reserve (NSR), a contract has been awarded to an Irish firm for the construction and delivery of up to four Motor Launches (MLs) for use by the NSR.

The 14metre, twin engine MLs will be deployed to each NSR unit around the country to reinforce and enhance their maritime capabilities in the littoral environment, in support of their Port Security role and wider support to the NS and DF.

The MLs will be armed with 7.62mm GPMG and fitted with military communications, to ensure full interoperability with the DF Joint Common Operational Picture (DF JCOP).

NSR personnel from all units (Dublin, Limerick, Waterford & Cork) recently visited the build of the first ML, in Valentia Co. Kerry. The first Motor Launch is due for delivery in Q4 2023.

Larbre34

That's a great story for the NS.

To have a modern asset that actively contributes to local reserve recruitment, that is built in a tiny coastal community like Valentia, is an excellent win.

As Jonny would say, order up another half dozen boss!

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120811224#Comment_120811224

The beauty of these launches will be they are big enough to be of practical use in the worst of weather, but still just small enough to be transported by road(using specialised trailers). So if for example all 4 were needed in any of our major ports, you wouldn't need to sail them around.

Now that the mould exists for them, building further boats of the same design is the easy part.

Larbre34

I must say I knew nothing about the builders, but taking a look at the range of working and leisure boats they build, to a simple but rugged template, I have to hand it to them for building such a quality business of such high reputation in a quiet rural spot where investment and employment are hard enough to come by.

Homegrown businesses like Murphy deserve all the recognition and profile they can get.

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120812276#Comment_120812276

These feel like one of those buys where you don't realise it at first but they'll be in service for years upon years and turn their hand to 50 different jobs and roles and turn out to be invaluable.

Grassy Knoll

They have the look of a workhorse craft - this is a complement- agree with the above they should provide plenty of utility and hopefully if imaginatively deployed should build interest of young people to join the reserve and maybe in turn the Navy itself. Is there any more info on the spec / fit out?

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120815385#Comment_120815385

Yes, but that's all that's in the public domain for now. The tender document specified what was required, and this boat delivers.

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120816227#Comment_120816227

I wonder will they go back to them for the NSDS new dive boat?

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120816316#Comment_120816316

I doubt it. I've not seen the specs for the dive boat, but they had something very different on trial recently, and it's not the first time something like that has been seen down there. Initially there was talk that the motor launches would double as dive boats, but that seems to have changed shortly before the contract was signed.

Alkers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120816734#Comment_120816734

Having the four NSR boats geographically spaced about coast will at the very least give the divers an option to use them rather than relying on a purpose built vessel which may be on the other coast

Larbre34

Depends on the job at hand.

I can't imagine a simple wooden launch being a stable platform for complex dives off shore or inshore in treacherous coves and shallows. Presumably the dive boat will be far more sophisticated?

Dohvolle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120819276#Comment_120819276

I'm not sure you have looked at the photos available.

Its made of GRP, and has an effer crane at the back as well as plenty of clear space. It makes an ideal dive boat. The timber you see is just to allow access for those working on it.

The current dive boats in use are also GRP with outboard engines.

Lets look again perhaps? This is the Motor Launch being built in Kerry (1 of 4). I believe it is a Cygnus Typhoon hull. These are well liked in the fishing business for those lifting lobster pots etc, as they don't roll much when you are stopped and hauling.

This was the boat seen around Cork last month, presumably on trial. (Mupper, I think?)