Technican Vc Draughtsman

Frogeye

Hi Lads,

I have 6-7 CAD techs working with me on 2D and 3D. I would like to call them draughtsmen but they're not..... some of them have certs from IT's, one has a diploma, one a degree and others just CAD courses.

My question is what makes you a draughtsman as against a CAD technican? Seems to me that if you have a AutoCad course done, you are a technican. Just because you can use CAD that doens't mean you can draught or put a drawing on a page with the right view etc etc.

And is there any way to bring them along with dimensioning rules, views, etc ? On line courses and so forth?


I don't mean to knock anyone, just looking for a way to improve the standard of work that I can recommend to my boss to implement.

Sound

Frog.

aquascrotum

IMO if the only qualification and input to a project is in the use of the CAD/draughting application then that person is a draughtsman.

A technician would have a technical qualification in a technical discipline and would have engineering/architectural/technical input to the project.

The whole things a nonsense anyway imo, in places I've worked we've had CAD technicians, Draughtsmen, Architectural Technicians, Architectural technologists, Civil technicians, etc etc etc. Granted its a bit better defined in the archi end as architectural technology is a degree in itself.

senisejus

sorry, i am not so strong in english, but i have draftsman and technologist Diploma. Do Cad technician is who knows everything about Cads. That is what kind of Cad. Standarts- electricity cad, architectural, mechanical and so on- ISO.
Draughtsman or drafts person- knows everything about drafts, 2d, 3d, he understand all drafts, but cant be ingeneer. Its like designer and technologist.
He cant create things, cuz he isnt a specialist like CAD master.

Offy

Twenty odd years ago I trained as a draughtsman. CAD was one of the modules, another was springs, another was gear wheels, another was cam wheels, another was geometry, another was dimensioning and tolerances, another was BS draughting standards, etc. I was trained in mechanical engineering. A lot of CAD technicians don’t have this basic training in an engineering discipline. They train in CAD with CAD. CAD is a tool much like a hammer is a tool. Someone can know every conceivable way to use a hammer but that doesn’t make them a carpenter.
A draughtsman serves an apprenticeship. Just like other tradesmen! Draughting is a trade which has almost been killed of by CAD. CAD is faster, easier to edit, easy to make copies and looks absolutely rubbish when compared with an inked perspective. Working with lead and ink is difficult and takes a long time to get right, CAD is easy and rendered models and assemblies look great when done properly, you cant render a blueprint. CAD in your case seems to be computerised draughting but your technicians don’t sound like draughtsmen from your description. If you want to train your CAD technicians try talking to FAS or any IT. They can offer tailored courses to bring your CAD technicians up to draughtsman level.

Nothingbetter2d

aint draughtsmen people that also draw by hand as well as using CAD?

senisejus

they r using both of them, cuz they r draughtspersons, and what skill they have learn.

Mellor

aquascrotum wrote: »

IMO if the only qualification and input to a project is in the use of the CAD/draughting application then that person is a draughtsman.

Not quite. You are confusing two roles, they are often the same, but there are differences. I agree RE:Architectural Tech,, Civil Techs etc

A CAD technician, or similar, is a title given to somebody with a knowledge in some form of CAD. There is a range of standards, and no benchmarks. A person out of a minor FAS could use the title. It's a misnomer, as there have no technicial input, but nevertheless, its the common title. They may not have the drawing specific training that the OP mentioned, scales, drafting standards etc. They often just know how to use CAD, nad prehaps, only aspects of it, as CAD is a general term.

A draftsman, has the specific skills that relate to producing drawings, he might no be as well versed in all aspects of CAD, but he doesn't need to be. He has the training need to produce drawings, again that the OP mentioned.


Most of the time, the difference is minor, most a CAD course might cover enough to get by, or they'll pick it up. But somebody out of a CAD course should be assume to be draftsman standard.

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

aint draughtsmen people that also draw by hand as well as using CAD?

No, in this day and age many draftsmen might not have ever drawn by hand.