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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭IrishSkyBoxer


    I have had a long battle with alcohol over the past number of years, sort of started cutting back the last few years but still had relapses.

    Tomorrow I will be exactly one year sober. The longest period of sobriety I have ever endured. What an achievement. There was a couple of years in my life when I was drunk more times in the week than sober. In some regards it means everything to me, in others it means nothing. I don't ever want a drink again. Life is too good without it.

    I have honestly never felt better in every single facet of my life -mentally, physically, emotionally. I can put my hand on my heart and say that I truly love life and love waking up every single day. Breaking free from the curse of alcohol has been the greatest gift I have ever given myself.

    Rather poignantly, tomorrow I will also be starting my final year medicine exams. There was a period initially when I started the course that I might not make it through, predominantly due to too much partying and not enough studying. Thankfully I hit the drink on the head and turned things around. Fingers crossed that I pass, I will be a doctor in a few short weeks. Not a bad way to start the rest of my life, substance free. Your prayers would be appreciated.

    Exams all passed! Happy days, let life begin!
    13 months strong and the last 13 months have been the best of my life, without a shadow of a doubt!

    Re: buying drinks for drinkers. I often head out with the lads, and they would tend to buy me a lucozade or two. Often they wouldn't expect me to buy a drink back, but I would tend to buy whatever lad bought me a lucozade maybe one drink back, but would never buy a round of drinks for anyone or a group.

    I actually met the girlfriends parents last week for the first time. I had no problem buying them both drinks when we were out but I suppose it's a bit different as I was staying in their house for a few days.

    I would never have a problem buying the girlfriend drink when we are out, not that she would expect me to though.

    That specific situation you described above... I'd tell that bird to go ram it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Exams all passed! Happy days, let life begin!
    13 months strong and the last 13 months have been the best of my life, without a shadow of a doubt!

    Re: buying drinks for drinkers. I often head out with the lads, and they would tend to buy me a lucozade or two. Often they wouldn't expect me to buy a drink back, but I would tend to buy whatever lad bought me a lucozade maybe one drink back, but would never buy a round of drinks for anyone or a group.

    I actually met the girlfriends parents last week for the first time. I had no problem buying them both drinks when we were out but I suppose it's a bit different as I was staying in their house for a few days.

    I would never have a problem buying the girlfriend drink when we are out, not that she would expect me to though.

    That specific situation you described above... I'd tell that bird to go ram it.

    What a great story !! Delighted for you .

    As for buying drinks , it is rare enough that I am in that position these days but If I am I usually stay on my own or buy just the one round but most of my friends refuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Howshocowpownw


    7 hours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    100 days today!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    21 months today


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    xzanti wrote: »
    21 months today

    Great work on yourself xzanti, It was great the way you really committed yourself to battling on and beating this addiction down, Keep doing what you're doing - it's working!
    Congratulations!


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    xzanti wrote: »
    21 months today

    Well done you! :D


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Thanks so much guys :) it's great to have your support!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭quinrea01


    xzanti wrote: »
    Thanks so much guys :) it's great to have your support!!
    Support you deserve. Very well done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭IrishSkyBoxer


    Came across this poem recently, really enjoyed it. Not sure is it from AA book or somewhere else.

    I am your Disease

    You know who I am, you’ve called me your friend. Wishes of misery and heartache I send. I want only to see that you’re brought to your knees... I’m the devil inside you, I am your disease.

    I’ll invade all your thoughts, I’ll take hostage your soul. I’ll become your new master, in total control. I’ll maim your emotions, I’ll run the whole game. Till your entire existence is crippled with shame. When you call me I come, sometimes in disguise. Quite often I’ll take you by total surprise. But take you I will, and just as you’ve feared. I’ll want only to hurt you, with no mercy spared. If you have your own family, Ill see its destroyed. I’ll steal every pleasure in life you’ve enjoyed. I’ll not only hurt you, I’ll kill if I please. I’m your worst living nightmare, I am your disease.

    I bring self destruction, but still you can’t tell. I’ll sweep you through heaven, then drop you in hell. I’ll chase you forever, wherever you go. And then when I catch you, you won’t even know. I’ll sometimes lay silent, just waiting to strike. What’s yours becomes mine, cuz I take what I like. I’ll take all you own and I won’t care who sees. I’m your constant companion… I am your disease.

    If you have any honor, I’ll strip it away. You’ll lose all your hope and forget how to pray. I’ll leave you in darkness, while blindly you stare. I’ll reduce you to nothing, and won’t even care. So, don’t take for granted my powers sublime. I’ll bend and I’ll break you, time after time. I’ll crumble your world with the greatest of ease. I’m that madman inside you…I am your disease.

    But today I’m real angry…you want to know why?I let all in recovery, entirely slip by. How did I lose you? Where did I go wrong? One minute I had you…then next you were gone. You just can’t dismiss all the good times we’ve shared. When you were alone…wasn’t it I who appeared? When you sold those possessions you knew you would need. Wasn’t I the first one who stepped in and agreed. Now look at you bastards, you’re all thinking clear. You escaped with your lives when you found your way here. Only fools think they’re winners when admitting defeat. It’s what you must say when you’re claiming that seat. Go ahead and surrender, if that’s what you choose. But, I’m not giving up. cuz I can’t stand to lose. So stand in your groups and support hand in hand. Better choices will save you…leaving me to be damned. Well, be damned all you people seeking treatment each week. Be damned inner strength, however unique. Be damned all your sayings, be damned your cliches. Be damned every addict, who back to me strays. For I know it will happen, I’ve seen it before. Those who love misery will crawl back for more. So take comfort in knowing, I’m waiting right here. But next time around, you’d just better beware. You think that you’re stronger or smarter this time. There isn’t a mountain or hill you can’t climb. Well if that’s what you’re thinkin, you ain’t learned a thing. I’ll still knock you silly if you step back in my ring.

    But you say you’ve surrendered, so what can I do?It’s so sad in a way, I had big plans for you. Creating your nightmare for me was a dream. I’m sure gonna miss you…we made quite a team. So please don’t forget me, I won’t forget youI’ll stand by your side watching all that you do. I’m ready and waiting, so call if you please. I won’t let you forget me…I am your disease


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Great poem/story Irishboxer,I have seen a few different versions of it over the years, As far as I know it was written by number
    1198 anonymous
    Illinois dept of corrections
    Dwight woman,s prison

    I know i am putting it mildly but she was sure in a reflective mood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    A few years ago when I was starting out on this journey I was so intrigued by this I had to google it and read more. Came across this book.



    http://www.amazon.com/Am-Your-Disease-Faces-Addiction/dp/1598006991

    Compelling, provocative stories of Addiction and Loss

    "Mom, nobody wakes up one day and decides to be an addict." The stories contained in this book are about people from every walk of life, socioeconomic levels, religious and ethnic backgrounds whose lives were intertwined with people who didn't "decide to be an addict."

    They all share one common bond - living with, and loving an addicted person.
    Contained within the pages of this book are stories by bereaved parents who have suffered the ultimate loss: The loss of their precious child.

    Read how addiction, whether it be drugs, alcohol or gambling, destroys not only the addicted person, but their entire circle of friends and family.

    No one escapes the tentacles of addiction. Like an octopus it reaches its deadly arms around us and squeezes the very life out of all of us. Our society is affected in ways we never imagined.

    Read excerpts from middle school students on the peer pressures they face today.

    They all share one common bond - living with, and loving an addicted person.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    xzanti wrote: »
    Thanks so much guys :) it's great to have your support!!
    Really well done. I would be interested to hear how you have reached this ahcievement if you were willing to share it here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Corvo


    A couple of points that stick out in the last few posts.

    Anxiety - Its what originally drove me to constant drinking and the description of weekends turning into weeks and weeks into years is so very apt. I would urge those that suffer from anxiety to try and take a step back, realise how you feel and then say to yourself "I am gonna get help for this" and avoid alcohol.

    Detox - Ger brought up a question about how he is still feeling quite unwell. Up until recently, I did a five week stint off the drink. I felt fantastic in the first two to three weeks and my diet was fantastic. My alcohol counseller who also specialises in nutrition couldnt believe how well I was eating (I always did even whilst drinking too) and I really pushed myself exercising. I was really starting to enjoy life. Unfortunately I then hit a dip, where I became terribly sick and following three courses of anti-biotics and no sign of it abating, I finally caved and went back drinking. So my advice (not that I am the most educated of posters on this matter) is to keep going. Just fight through that pain and it will finally go, dont do what I did.

    So yes - as any poster that may check my post history here can probably tell - I'm trying again. Current stopwatch says I havent drank in two days. All I can do is try again and hope that this time I can keep going.

    Best of luck to all other posters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    Corvo wrote: »
    A couple of points that stick out in the last few posts.

    Anxiety - Its what originally drove me to constant drinking and the description of weekends turning into weeks and weeks into years is so very apt. I would urge those that suffer from anxiety to try and take a step back, realise how you feel and then say to yourself "I am gonna get help for this" and avoid alcohol.

    Detox - Ger brought up a question about how he is still feeling quite unwell. Up until recently, I did a five week stint off the drink. I felt fantastic in the first two to three weeks and my diet was fantastic. My alcohol counseller who also specialises in nutrition couldnt believe how well I was eating (I always did even whilst drinking too) and I really pushed myself exercising. I was really starting to enjoy life. Unfortunately I then hit a dip, where I became terribly sick and following three courses of anti-biotics and no sign of it abating, I finally caved and went back drinking. So my advice (not that I am the most educated of posters on this matter) is to keep going. Just fight through that pain and it will finally go, dont do what I did.

    So yes - as any poster that may check my post history here can probably tell - I'm trying again. Current stopwatch says I havent drank in two days. All I can do is try again and hope that this time I can keep going.

    Best of luck to all other posters.

    Best of luck


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    KeefF wrote: »
    Really well done. I would be interested to hear how you have reached this ahcievement if you were willing to share it here?

    I just decided I'd had enough KeefF, woke up one morning and felt like today was the day :) went out and bought the Allen Carr book as per a recommendation I had seen here... and I haven't looked back.

    One tool that I do use quite a lot also is my gratitude list.. When I decided to give up I began a list of the things I wanted to change about myself and as time has gone by I have ticked them all off and I keep adding new things that I have noticed changing for the better.

    It's a great help to me if I find myself feeling hard done by or that I'm missing out on the fun.

    Best of luck to everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    xzanti wrote: »
    I just decided I'd had enough KeefF, woke up one morning and felt like today was the day :) went out and bought the Allen Carr book as per a recommendation I had seen here... and I haven't looked back.

    One tool that I do use quite a lot also is my gratitude list.. When I decided to give up I began a list of the things I wanted to change about myself and as time has gone by I have ticked them all off and I keep adding new things that I have noticed changing for the better.

    It's a great help to me if I find myself feeling hard done by or that I'm missing out on the fun.

    Best of luck to everyone.

    I'm so grateful for that advice I can't even put it in to words. It came at i very interesting time too because I was feeling the best I've felt in ages so ibooked an appointment with my doctor to tell her how my life was starting to get better (her request) so I went to show her and maybe get some advice on how to keep this up.

    Anyway I was in the waiting room in high spirits when all of a sudden I had a fully blow panic attack. Like the on had years ago when I was taking hard drugs.
    I didn't think these would happen anymore seeing as im 7 weeks sober myself but this attack was intense, so much so that i walked out of the waiting room without seeing the doc.

    So I took a couple of tablets to calm myself down and it worked.

    My question is, did I do the right thing? Alcohol is my problem but tablets do help. I feel bad for talkin them but I feel better because of them. Bit of a catch 22. Any help would be really appreciated coz i feel I've taken 10 steps forward and 4 steps back. Mucho grasias
    Edit: That reply was meant for corvo..


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    xzanti wrote: »
    I just decided I'd had enough KeefF, woke up one morning and felt like today was the day :) went out and bought the Allen Carr book as per a recommendation I had seen here... and I haven't looked back.

    One tool that I do use quite a lot also is my gratitude list.. When I decided to give up I began a list of the things I wanted to change about myself and as time has gone by I have ticked them all off and I keep adding new things that I have noticed changing for the better.

    It's a great help to me if I find myself feeling hard done by or that I'm missing out on the fun.

    Best of luck to everyone.
    I have that book and must read it again. I have been doing the AA thing but keep sliding every couple of months for 24-48 hours. I had started work with a sponsor but they drank last weekend - cue my feeble excuse to drink. Maybe AA not for me? Maybe spiritual side of it - gratitude etc is the best route?


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    KeefF wrote: »
    I have that book and must read it again. I have been doing the AA thing but keep sliding every couple of months for 24-48 hours. I had started work with a sponsor but they drank last weekend - cue my feeble excuse to drink. Maybe AA not for me? Maybe spiritual side of it - gratitude etc is the best route?

    How long was your sponsor off drink?


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    Kunkka wrote: »
    How long was your sponsor off drink?

    couple of years.
    In hindsight maybe he didn't have enough time but he was the first person to really offer to help me in AA.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    KeefF wrote: »
    couple of years.
    In hindsight maybe he didn't have enough time but he was the first person to really offer to help me in AA.

    Irresponsible on his part and not yours. I wouldn't throw in the towel at all just put it down as an experience KeefF. It's kept me off drink for nearly 3 years and I was a suicidal mess.

    I can honestly say with the help of people in AA I've never been happier at any point in my life and I can deal with life now without having to get out of my head.

    I wish you the best as I can only imagine how tough something like that is this early in sobriety.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Bill Lee


    GerB40 wrote: »
    My question is, did I do the right thing? Alcohol is my problem but tablets do help. I feel bad for talkin them but I feel better because of them. Bit of a catch 22. Any help would be really appreciated coz i feel I've taken 10 steps forward and 4 steps back. Mucho grasias
    Edit: That reply was meant for corvo..

    Ger, I know you're addressing Corvo, but my own two cents: my doc once said he'd much rather I was on Xanax than on alcohol. And from experience, I agree with him. If you are not drinking and you are sleeping and eating well and getting exercise than any anti-anxiety meds should work well for you and I see absolutely nothing wrong in taking them when needed. Also, you haven't been off booze that long, your brain is probably still recovering so I wouldn't worry that you had a panic attack.
    I used Etizolam to help with my alcohol withdrawals and have used them at a low dose since. In time I hope to reduce my intake down and be at a point when I only use them in an emergency. But I'm not going to rush it. I'm almost 5 weeks sober. But I was boozing daily for pretty much 24 months. Which is over 100 weeks. So really my sober life is at an embryonic stage. And if I have to take some meds to get through the day, I will.
    If you're sensible enough to kick the booze, you should be sensible enough to use meds in a responsible way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    Kunkka wrote: »
    Irresponsible on his part and not yours. I wouldn't throw in the towel at all just put it down as an experience KeefF. It's kept me off drink for nearly 3 years and I was a suicidal mess.

    I can honestly say with the help of people in AA I've never been happier at any point in my life and I can deal with life now without having to get out of my head.

    I wish you the best as I can only imagine how tough something like that is this early in sobriety.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    KeefF wrote: »
    Thanks

    I have my monthly session with a counsellor today. Last night I felt compelled to sit down a write down a Gratitude list for myself - driven by what Realies as has said in other posts. I do genuinely realsie the importance of gratitude and regularly pray for the gift of gratitude and acceptance. The gratitude list has about 15 items which individually may not have seemed important to me but together they certainly amount to a lot to be grateful for.
    My plan is to keep plugging away at AA but to get 3 months solid sobriety under my belt driven by sharing and more integration with people in AA and finding myself in there. I spend a lot of the time running around with work, meetings, gym, meditating,praying - trying to get up really early to manage all this and feeling pretty overwhelmed. But I think I need to find a way to make it work better for me such as going to local meetings at weekends as opposed to dragging myself into town. Need to find a bit more time for proper meditation also and enlarging the spiritual side of things.
    I also jotted down for myself what drives me to drink at weekends - loneliness, need to belong, trying to fit in, feeling isolated when sober and I only get validation when drinking etc. I need to identify people, places and situtations that make me feel that way and address them - therefore further change is required. Plus I need to pick up the phone and ask for help when these feelings come on me and push through them. I need to learn from my experiences of last weekend and not put my sobriety solely in the hands of another but to clearly understand that if I continue to drink I will never be happy or content. I will always be torturing myself mentally and chasing my tail. Time to move on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    Well Keef you certainly know what you need to do.

    If you lose all your money, don't drink. If you lose your job, don't drink. If your partner sleeps with the postman, don't drink. If you sleep with the postman, don't drink! Whatever happens you know drink isn't for you and you know that it will only make a bad situation much worse while drawing you in to more self hatred and oblivion. You wouldn't be making this effort otherwise, ALWAYS remember that. You'd just be kidding yourself going back there and there is nothing worse then lying to yourself as that leads to more self loathing which leads to more depressing drinking. When this is realized we are on the road to beating booze.

    Being truthful like anyone who enjoyed drink at some stage I can miss it at times. Who wouldn't when we clearly enjoyed it so much? The key is I know where it brought me in the end and I've seen too many people go back out there who have gotten much much worse or who have succumbed to suicide. I'm not gambling with the life I have today, that's for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Hey Ger,

    First of all, I hope you were able to go back to the doctors and that all was ok.

    I wanted to take my time to think about your post and my own reply and hopefully through my own experiences you might be able to find some comfort. I can only tell you what happened to me with regards pills and medication but it’s not too dissimilar.

    A while back I was referred to the company doctor/GP following a particular stressful period in work and where to deal with that stress, I drank large amounts in order to quell it. Of course this didn’t actually help the stress. I would spend nights awake, night after night, in a state of panic over work. So alcohol caused me to knockout and in that I found some relaxation in that I didn’t spend the best part of 8 hours staring into darkness with my own troubled thoughts. (I would usually sleep between 11pm and midnight and then be awake for the rest until it was time to get up)

    The company GP addressed my heavy drinking first of all and then prescribed sleeping pills and of course the old store board family favourite – Xanex, for anxiety and to keep me calm (my temper at this time was bordering on violent). I began to take these as shown and also the alcohol was stopped completely. As I mentioned before, I began to live life. Things were fine.

    During this period, I was also referred to an addiction counsellor and a self-harm counsellor, both of whom I see on a weekly basis on the same day (imagine talking about yourself for that long!  )

    Bear with me, I’m getting to my point.

    Both counsellors, but especially the addiction counsellor, were shocked to learn that I was taking Xanex – but were furious I was taking sleeping pills. The message from the addiction counsellor was one of “It’s all well and good that the company GP has prescribed you this, but he won’t have to deal with you when you return with no alcohol addiction but one to Xanex, sleeping pills or anyone of the Benzo family”…..and you know something, they were right. I referred to my own family GP (who has treated me since 4 years of age) and he too was furious.

    I stopped taking both immediately and set about finding other ways to induce a healthy sleep at night and ways to reduce my anxiety, which are as follows and I hope are of some help –

    * Early to bed – early rise

    * Daily and high intensity exercise – I found that between 6am and 8amsuited me best – this was particularly good for both sleep but great for anxiety – plus you never know who you might meet out jogging etc.

    * Healthy balanced diet

    * Camomile tea at night time

    * I kept a diary of my thoughts – it does not need to be Shakespeare but its great to get them out – it helped me calm down. Personally, mine reads like Damien 666’s diary – which remind me, I must burn it before the men in the white coats come for me!

    * I suffer from very bad social anxiety when I do not have alcohol in me – so I intentionally asked mates to force me into social situations. At that stage I thought what did I have to lose – so I asked girls on dates and even though I was a nervous wreck – I gave it my best. I figured the worst that could happen was that I would faint!

    What I am trying to get to is – please do seek as many opinions on the matter as you can and please do try to overcome these obstacles without the use of pills. I know I can now – once I overcome the alcohol – but you have already done that. Educate yourself as best you can Ger and choose what is right for YOU and not what the GP just thinks is right for YOU. Respect their opinion and evaluate.

    Anyway, I hope a section of my own story has helped. Apologies for the bible-like block of text.

    I wish you the best.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    Corvo wrote: »
    Hey Ger,

    First of all, I hope you were able to go back to the doctors and that all was ok.

    I wanted to take my time to think about your post and my own reply and hopefully through my own experiences you might be able to find some comfort. I can only tell you what happened to me with regards pills and medication but it’s not too dissimilar.

    A while back I was referred to the company doctor/GP following a particular stressful period in work and where to deal with that stress, I drank large amounts in order to quell it. Of course this didn’t actually help the stress. I would spend nights awake, night after night, in a state of panic over work. So alcohol caused me to knockout and in that I found some relaxation in that I didn’t spend the best part of 8 hours staring into darkness with my own troubled thoughts. (I would usually sleep between 11pm and midnight and then be awake for the rest until it was time to get up)

    The company GP addressed my heavy drinking first of all and then prescribed sleeping pills and of course the old store board family favourite – Xanex, for anxiety and to keep me calm (my temper at this time was bordering on violent). I began to take these as shown and also the alcohol was stopped completely. As I mentioned before, I began to live life. Things were fine.

    During this period, I was also referred to an addiction counsellor and a self-harm counsellor, both of whom I see on a weekly basis on the same day (imagine talking about yourself for that long!  )

    Bear with me, I’m getting to my point.

    Both counsellors, but especially the addiction counsellor, were shocked to learn that I was taking Xanex – but were furious I was taking sleeping pills. The message from the addiction counsellor was one of “It’s all well and good that the company GP has prescribed you this, but he won’t have to deal with you when you return with no alcohol addiction but one to Xanex, sleeping pills or anyone of the Benzo family”…..and you know something, they were right. I referred to my own family GP (who has treated me since 4 years of age) and he too was furious.

    I stopped taking both immediately and set about finding other ways to induce a healthy sleep at night and ways to reduce my anxiety, which are as follows and I hope are of some help –

    * Early to bed – early rise

    * Daily and high intensity exercise – I found that between 6am and 8amsuited me best – this was particularly good for both sleep but great for anxiety – plus you never know who you might meet out jogging etc.

    * Healthy balanced diet

    * Camomile tea at night time

    * I kept a diary of my thoughts – it does not need to be Shakespeare but its great to get them out – it helped me calm down. Personally, mine reads like Damien 666’s diary – which remind me, I must burn it before the men in the white coats come for me!

    * I suffer from very bad social anxiety when I do not have alcohol in me – so I intentionally asked mates to force me into social situations. At that stage I thought what did I have to lose – so I asked girls on dates and even though I was a nervous wreck – I gave it my best. I figured the worst that could happen was that I would faint!

    What I am trying to get to is – please do seek as many opinions on the matter as you can and please do try to overcome these obstacles without the use of pills. I know I can now – once I overcome the alcohol – but you have already done that. Educate yourself as best you can Ger and choose what is right for YOU and not what the GP just thinks is right for YOU. Respect their opinion and evaluate.

    Anyway, I hope a section of my own story has helped. Apologies for the bible-like block of text.

    I wish you the best.

    Wow. I can't put into words how grateful I am for that immensely helpful and insightful reply. I've read that post a couple of times and I'll have to read it a few more so I can properly articulate how helpful it was. Until then all I can say is thanks..


  • Registered Users Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    Corvo wrote: »
    Hey Ger,

    First of all, I hope you were able to go back to the doctors and that all was ok.

    I wanted to take my time to think about your post and my own reply and hopefully through my own experiences you might be able to find some comfort. I can only tell you what happened to me with regards pills and medication but it’s not too dissimilar.

    A while back I was referred to the company doctor/GP following a particular stressful period in work and where to deal with that stress, I drank large amounts in order to quell it. Of course this didn’t actually help the stress. I would spend nights awake, night after night, in a state of panic over work. So alcohol caused me to knockout and in that I found some relaxation in that I didn’t spend the best part of 8 hours staring into darkness with my own troubled thoughts. (I would usually sleep between 11pm and midnight and then be awake for the rest until it was time to get up)

    The company GP addressed my heavy drinking first of all and then prescribed sleeping pills and of course the old store board family favourite – Xanex, for anxiety and to keep me calm (my temper at this time was bordering on violent). I began to take these as shown and also the alcohol was stopped completely. As I mentioned before, I began to live life. Things were fine.

    During this period, I was also referred to an addiction counsellor and a self-harm counsellor, both of whom I see on a weekly basis on the same day (imagine talking about yourself for that long!  )

    Bear with me, I’m getting to my point.

    Both counsellors, but especially the addiction counsellor, were shocked to learn that I was taking Xanex – but were furious I was taking sleeping pills. The message from the addiction counsellor was one of “It’s all well and good that the company GP has prescribed you this, but he won’t have to deal with you when you return with no alcohol addiction but one to Xanex, sleeping pills or anyone of the Benzo family”…..and you know something, they were right. I referred to my own family GP (who has treated me since 4 years of age) and he too was furious.

    I stopped taking both immediately and set about finding other ways to induce a healthy sleep at night and ways to reduce my anxiety, which are as follows and I hope are of some help –

    * Early to bed – early rise

    * Daily and high intensity exercise – I found that between 6am and 8amsuited me best – this was particularly good for both sleep but great for anxiety – plus you never know who you might meet out jogging etc.

    * Healthy balanced diet

    * Camomile tea at night time

    * I kept a diary of my thoughts – it does not need to be Shakespeare but its great to get them out – it helped me calm down. Personally, mine reads like Damien 666’s diary – which remind me, I must burn it before the men in the white coats come for me!

    * I suffer from very bad social anxiety when I do not have alcohol in me – so I intentionally asked mates to force me into social situations. At that stage I thought what did I have to lose – so I asked girls on dates and even though I was a nervous wreck – I gave it my best. I figured the worst that could happen was that I would faint!

    What I am trying to get to is – please do seek as many opinions on the matter as you can and please do try to overcome these obstacles without the use of pills. I know I can now – once I overcome the alcohol – but you have already done that. Educate yourself as best you can Ger and choose what is right for YOU and not what the GP just thinks is right for YOU. Respect their opinion and evaluate.

    Anyway, I hope a section of my own story has helped. Apologies for the bible-like block of text.

    I wish you the best.

    Great post, thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Ed The Equalizer


    Yes, great post Corvo.

    For those not yet sold on the benefits of exercise, I'd recommend this book:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spark-revolutionary-science-exercise-brain/dp/1849161577


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    Wow, even as I write this it's with some sense of disbelief but today marks my 50th day sober... I feel fantastic and more importantly, I feel determined to stay sober for another 50 days.
    Now I'm in no way qualified to council those who are starting (or considering starting) a new life without drink but if I could give advice to them I would say just f*ckin go for it.
    Those first tentative steps are the hardest. You'll feel like shít, you'll feel empty, you'll feel a lot of bad things but if you're mentally determined to quit the drink these won't matter because, as I recently found out, we all have an inner strength that drinking will convince you doesn't exist.
    When you're system is free from all the toxic shyte the difference is astonishing. I took the advice of several boardsies on this very thread and started exercising. All I can say is thank you folks. The advice I've received has been magic and I'll forever be in debt to you all..

    Here's to another 50 days!!!


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