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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Well done Kunkka, great work on yourself :-)

    Welcome ThreeTier, keep posting and sharing, we can all learn from each other in this fight...


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭eamor


    eamor wrote: »
    Into day 3....I've been seeking out a person I know for a while. There's a peace & and a calm about him that drew me in so intensely. I rang, he answered and held a mirror up for me. It was heartbreaking. But he was right, I am attracted to his sobriety. He held my hand while I cried my heart out & then gave me his 18 year chip to keep in my pocket. In 8 hours of sobbing,drinking tea & holding on to a chip, he did more for me than I've ever done for myself. But he was very clear, he can show me a road, but he cant walk it for me. I know some people don't buy the 'god' part of AA and maybe I was 1 of them- but when he asked if I wanted to meet someone & maybe go to a meeting- I was struck by a peace & serenity that I've never had before. 1 person, on my periphery, not quite the kindness of strangers, but enough for me to believe in a higher power.....

    Into day 8- Cannot quite believe it. I feel excited, scared, full of energy/knackered tired.... Weepy, happy, sad, giddy..... I have been hovering and lurking here for a long time, but your words have resonated with me... Thank you all... x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    Day 1. Trying again. I need to get my life sorted and not just the drink. But the drink is number one priority for now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Great to see you back, Souls! A massive bualadh bos for you. Well done. It gets easier, and further away, each day. There's so, so much else to get into/going on in life.

    Thank you Anamcheasta for your kind words! Great to hear from you too! :)
    Thats so true! life is still coming into bloom. cant really put words on it. thats why i love photography! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭ASoberThought


    162 days for me today.

    Things are certainly harder now than they were at the start. I'm going to start working the program more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    Day 2
    Sometimes feel sad.
    Mostly feel nothing.
    Not hopeful, not motivated, nervous or excited.
    Nothing


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Day 2
    Sometimes feel sad.
    Mostly feel nothing.
    Not hopeful, not motivated, nervous or excited.
    Nothing

    It's not easy but trust me it's worth it. I'm not going to lie sometimes now I have a horrible few days but it's rare that drink enters my head. A lot of lads I know were in Madrid the weekend and I was a bit jealous if I'm honest but it's just something that I have to deal with.

    You do need support, maybe counseling? I was seeing an addiction counselor which I think had an added benefit.

    Post here as much as you can, you know you can post anything and ever here, I know I've rambled on here a few times and most other posters also :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Fingers Mcginty


    162 days for me today.

    Things are certainly harder now than they were at the start. I'm going to start working the program more.

    That's a little disheartening. I was under the illusion it gets easier as time goes on?
    Day 10 and feel great. Confidence is returning. I don't have the dreaded "fear" of waking up on the weekend wondering what the hell i did/say the previous night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    162 days for me today.

    Things are certainly harder now than they were at the start. I'm going to start working the program more.
    That's a little disheartening. I was under the illusion it gets easier as time goes on?
    Day 10 and feel great. Confidence is returning. I don't have the dreaded "fear" of waking up on the weekend wondering what the hell i did/say the previous night.

    It does get easier the longer you stop,your body and mind does feel much better, But the problems of life are still there, they don't disappear,Your now probably in a long time actually seeing life with a clear sober mind and body, And sometimes it's not nice what you see, but instead of hiding away in a haze of alcohol, your now going to deal with them.

    A sober thought, working your program and any other tools you have will certainly help,it's not easy to change ones life around but it is doable and so well worth it for the majority of who post here, keep at it and keep on posting :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,495 ✭✭✭tinpib


    My own experience was my first 3 times giving up were similar, hit 4.5 months and was utterly bored out of my skull and miserable, and drinking, no matter how bad it was, seemed more appealing. It wasn't getting any easier.

    This time is like night and day. I honestly had only two real times of temptation, day 2/3 and again after about 6 weeks.

    I can't really briefly say what the difference is, it would take a book. But my first 3 times getting sober were triggered by a catastrophic night drinking, lost phone, blackouts, cuts and bruises etc.

    This time it rationally dawned on me over a period of a few days on holiday that there was absolutely zero positives from drinking and I think I realised that I was done with it and accepted it.

    I think I know what you are going a soberthought, good luck with it. As I have said before I got better at sobriety over the years. It's not easy, you are changing the habits of a life time. It takes time and effort.

    I'm sober all of 2016 BTW.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭bikubesong


    Day 25 for me, and it's probably the hardest day I've experienced so far in this period of sobriety. I suffer from depression (like many people who battle the booze) and I'm feeling it very keenly today.
    I've tried getting up and keeping busy, tried lying down, tried watching a film, tried reading a book. My head is a wreck and it's bombarding me with bad memories and thoughts that I obsess over.

    Anyway, it's all part of the process. I'm thankful to have 25 days and I'm hoping for many more - and better ones than today.

    Hope everyone here is well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭leinsterdude


    bikubesong wrote: »
    Day 25 for me, and it's probably the hardest day I've experienced so far in this period of sobriety. I suffer from depression (like many people who battle the booze) and I'm feeling it very keenly today.
    I've tried getting up and keeping busy, tried lying down, tried watching a film, tried reading a book. My head is a wreck and it's bombarding me with bad memories and thoughts that I obsess over.

    Anyway, it's all part of the process. I'm thankful to have 25 days and I'm hoping for many more - and better ones than today.

    Hope everyone here is well!

    Keep going, you will get through it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    I am grateful to have woken up this morning with a roof over my head.
    I looked out the window down towards the sea, the colour that lit up the sky was incredible. i cant describe what a revelation it is to see life as it is. Infinitley beautiful. I havent been able to put a word, nor surmise recovery one day at a time nor do i need to really but capturing single moments such as this morning, really instill the essence of recovery. I can reflect on mornings where i didnt see the world in colour, and take a moment to acknowledge that, yes that happened. I cannot change the past. what happened was meant to happen so that now.. today i can see the colour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Fingers Mcginty


    2 weeks today. Happy out. I'm doing sober October but I might try and go longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    2 weeks today. Happy out. I'm doing sober October but I might try and go longer.

    Push it till December Fingers ;) As you will feel absolutely great , keep posting and keeping us all informed .

    Well done bikubesong, your doing fine, keep up the great work.


    How you doing clairewithani ? its not easy but it can be done, keep at it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    souls wrote: »
    I am grateful to have woken up this morning with a roof over my head.
    I looked out the window down towards the sea, the colour that lit up the sky was incredible. i cant describe what a revelation it is to see life as it is. Infinitley beautiful. I havent been able to put a word, nor surmise recovery one day at a time nor do i need to really but capturing single moments such as this morning, really instill the essence of recovery. I can reflect on mornings where i didnt see the world in colour, and take a moment to acknowledge that, yes that happened. I cannot change the past. what happened was meant to happen so that now.. today i can see the colour.



    Lovely to read , well done souls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    I am doing ok, just ok. I gave up drinking before and after a few days felt great. I am not feeling great now. I am tired, agitated and feeling down. Still haven't had a drink though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    I am doing ok, just ok. I gave up drinking before and after a few days felt great. I am not feeling great now. I am tired, agitated and feeling down. Still haven't had a drink though.

    And may I ask what you are doing to help you get through the void of not drinking ?

    You need to use and have some positive tools to help you and even support, Its very hard t beat this on our own clairewithani. There is sticky thread at top of forum maybe something there can help :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    And may I ask what you are doing to help you get through the void of not drinking ?

    You need to use and have some positive tools to help you and even support, Its very hard t beat this on our own clairewithani. There is sticky thread at top of forum maybe something there can help :)

    One word jumped out at me there. "On OUR own" instead of "on YOUR own." Thank you. I will try post more and be more positive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    One word jumped out at me there. "On OUR own" instead of "on YOUR own." Thank you. I will try post more and be more positive

    Clairewithani we folks who post and who just read here are all here for the same reason, Alcohol has made our life a living hell, We are gone past the point of enjoying the drink and being sociable and having a laugh, 99% of times we now drink trouble is not faraway.

    Whether it be financial, domestic, relationships or just sickness our lives are in a mess, So you have come to one of the right places, there are many out there and living proof in how this addiction/disease/illness etc can be beaten.

    I am 55 I drinking since I was 13/14, I did not stop until 2009,So I had 20 years of heavy drinking, the other years I was sociable enough, until it got a hold of me, I promised everyone, I don't know how many times I would stop, I changed drinks, I changed bars, I changed friends, I changed chippers, as I blamed everything on my illness except the real cause. I had to realise that this was internal illness not external and its me that had to change.

    Anyway I got carried away there :D The point being you can and everyone can beat this. go for it .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Fingers Mcginty


    Didn't have a good day today. Felt down in the dumps for no reason at all.
    In times like these I would have gone down the offy and obliterated myself with the help of my old friend. A way of detaching from reality like I've done all my life.
    I know AA is not for me but I feel like posting here is the next best thing. I didn't give into the temptation that peaked a few hours ago. Feeling a bit better now and I know I won't be waking up tomorrow feeling 10 times worse.
    Phew :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Didn't have a good day today. Felt down in the dumps for no reason at all.
    In times like these I would have gone down the offy and obliterated myself with the help of my old friend. A way of detaching from reality like I've done all my life.
    I know AA is not for me but I feel like posting here is the next best thing. I didn't give into the temptation that peaked a few hours ago. Feeling a bit better now and I know I won't be waking up tomorrow feeling 10 times worse.
    Phew :)



    Hi fingers, This is certainly roller coaster of a ride, Them cravings or witching hours that come are normal when we stop, Its how you deal with them and to be ready for next time they come, and they will come.

    There are other support groups out there if AA is not for you, Chk out the sticky at top of forum and something might interest you there, Its good you posted here...You are not alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Laeot


    218 days ...

    Still hanging in there !


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Laeot wrote: »
    218 days ...

    Still hanging in there !

    Great achievement Laeot , just keep on doing what you are doing !


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭eamor


    Day 22 .....wonderful people coming out of nowhere to help. It feels good. Very safe & very solid. Long may it last....


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    eamor wrote: »
    Day 22 .....wonderful people coming out of nowhere to help. It feels good. Very safe & very solid. Long may it last....

    Indeed you always find your true friends at times like this and discover friends you never even knew you had .


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭bikubesong


    31 days since I last drank. Feels like a lifetime has passed.

    Things in other aspects of my life are still tough and v messy, but I know that even taking one drink will make it worse, so gotta keep truckin'.

    It's been great to have this thread to check in on and read everyone's stories! Cheers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Laeot wrote: »
    218 days ...

    Still hanging in there !

    That's great Laeot :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭eamor


    marienbad wrote: »
    Indeed you always find your true friends at times like this and discover friends you never even knew you had .

    Hi Marienbad, this is so true and I really wouldn't have believed it. I am shakier than a baby calf at the moment, but then someone calls, someone txts or I'll have a total random interaction with a stranger through work that brings me back to the moment. I don't know what's going on, and for the first time, probably ever, I'm ok with that, because its really not important right now. I need to just keep it all in the day & get out of my head/rabbit hole.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    ...........106 days I think. 13th July was the last time alcohol crossed my lips. Excel assures me that is 106 days. With the exception of 200ml of Guinness used in a ginger bread cake and 50ml of white wine used when baking fish. But I think cooking can be excused can it not? :)

    I have finally changed my narrative from drinker to non-drinker. During "drinker" I was occasionally "not drinking at the moment". For example after "Other voices" last year it was the first week of May before I drank again. So slightly over 5 months without.

    But my narrative was always that I was "a drinker" even when not drinking at those times. On the 13th July though I made some stupid STUPID decisions under the influence and decided that was it for me. Time to switch narrative. Alas the decisions on that night were bad enough (though thankfully with no lasting repercussions for me or anyone else) that not a day goes by without me thinking "What was I thinking?!?!?!?!".

    I have been quite lucky as it goes. I am not the "problem drinker" type that misses alcohol when not having any. So refraining from it has not been an issue AT ALL for me. I am the EXTREME binge drinker type though that once I get a certain level of alcohol in me.... then I can not get enough of it.

    Something "switches" inside me and I just need to drink until I barf or lose consciousness. And even the former has not stopped me sometimes. And in both cases it was not unheard of for me to get up the next morning and do it again from breakfast onwards. I could sit at my PC of a Friday night and drink a few beers and 2 bottles of wine, and then start wondering how I might get my hands on more, like messaging people I know to drop a bottle or two around to me. Thankfully I do not live within walking distance of a shop, or I might never have stopped on those nights!

    Thankfully however even that was rare. In any 12 month year I would have about 15 nights of binge and the rest of the year not drink at all. So now that I am off the stuff, I feel no compulsion or desire or craving or anything.

    I genuinely feel for the people who do though. I am addicted to mundane things. Sugar and Carbs mostly, currently in the form of coca cola and pringles. And the addiction manifests itself in all kinds of ways. Sometimes a desire so strong it manifests as actual physical pain. Other times feelings hungry and thirsty despite being full of food and drink. All the different, sometimes subtle, sometimes extreme, ways this addiction can make itself known.

    And the worst with addiction is how the mind plays all the same tricks on me that I hear alcoholics describe. Telling you things like "well you have been good for so long, why not tonight?" or "Ok you are off it but JUST TONIGHT you deserve it because...." or the absolute worst one where you resist and resist and resist..... entirely successfully you believe..... only to find yourself while putting things on the check out that at some point you picked the stuff up after all and you do not even remember doing it and sure "no point putting it back now" you tell yourself.

    And that is just coke and crisps FFS!

    So at least, while the effects on ones life are different between alcohol and mere sugar and carbs.... the former being infinitely more damaging than the latter usually......... the manifestation of addiction is similar so I can recognize it in myself if and when it arises. And I am so lucky to not be in THAT way addicted to alcohol. I do not suffer from ANY of that with alcohol and really feel for those of you on the thread that do! And extreme respect I have for all of you who resist that successfully.

    But July was bad enough that there is a paranoid part of me all the same that fears a relapse of some description even with ZERO sign of it happening. So I am maintaining a healthy level of self vigilance and caution by avoiding any and all of the trigger situations in which I would drink before. Empty free time seemed to be the main one for me, so I have recently started working with Syrian Refugees here in Germany, training them on Web Development coding in Javascript, CSS, HTML, Ruby, GitHub, Algorithms and more. So that's taking up 6 hours of my week teaching and another 6 preparing and learning myself (never used Ruby before for example). Stimulating volunteer work I think is a seriously good weapon for anyone struggling with an addiction. For a few reasons. Filling the free time. Feeling good about yourself. Having responsibility for others. All things that help over come SOME of the more insidious manifestations of addiction.

    So, probably over kill, and I probably do not have a "problem" to the degree many people have. But I have developed enough respect for alcohol, and enough lack of respect for my own ability to "Enjoy Alcohol sensibly" as the slogan goes...... to act very much like I have a serious problem whether I actually do or not. Which is probably the wise and healthy approach for me to take. I would rather over react to it than under.

    Anyway that is my story. Dunno why I am posting it, but there ya go :) The nozzferrahhtoo is human too.


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