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Masters and Devils

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  • #32
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    newmug wrote: »
    Off topic, but can anyone tell me why, historically speaking, devils are call devils? Devilling. It sounds like the time when you've learned the law inside-out, and this is the "on the job" training of how to lie and twist and corrupt the law to your own ends, without actually breaking it, all the while covering your own ass and milking the client!

    It comes from some French word or other. I think it comes from du valet or some other phrase which means to act as a valet or servant.

    Barristers don't lie or milk their clients. If you are aware of this happening, you should complain to the bar council immediately.


  • #33
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Tom Young wrote: »
    Well actually that is possibly quite the insulting post to many professionals who opt to frequent this particular legal discussion forum.

    You're entitled to your own opinion but the answer to your rhetorical question or statement of opinion at the end is categorically no.

    Here is a wikipedia definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devilling


    Sorry Tom, didnt mean to insult you! I'm making the point that thats what the word devil brings to mind. You know, a devil, an evil being! Thats why I was asking where did the term come from? I'm not suggesting for a moment that thats my opinion, just that thats what it sounds like!


  • #34
    legaleagle10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭legaleagle10


    well....yes thats it really... Joking of course! ...Im not sure why they call it devilling (maybe the "devils" advocate??) but its also called Pupillage.
    newmug wrote: »
    Off topic, but can anyone tell me why, historically speaking, devils are call devils? Devilling. It sounds like the time when you've learned the law inside-out, and this is the "on the job" training of how to lie and twist and corrupt the law to your own ends, without actually breaking it, all the while covering your own ass and milking the client!


  • #35
    legaleagle10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭legaleagle10


    Lol..just got that there!hahaha..its still early!..I fell ruff this morning...okay enough! thats the last one its out of my sytem now..apologies
    Tom Young wrote: »
    Ruff Justice from JS. I thought he was barking there for a moment. Clearly not. Just meating it out to you.


  • #36
    legaleagle10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭legaleagle10


    Hey guys, I noticed when looking up the Barristers for a Masters (not going well I might add) that some of them have a loooooong list of things they work in such as Tort and PI, Commercial, Labour Law, Family etc then you have other Barristers that just have "General Practice" can anyone clarify this, im guessing it means they do all areas of the law as opposed to specialising in one particular area?? why dont they put what they practice in? wonder if its just an admin. thing?

    thanks


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  • #37
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    legaleagle10 wrote: »
    Hey guys, I noticed when looking up the Barristers for a Masters (not going well I might add) that some of them have a loooooong list of things they work in such as Tort and PI, Commercial, Labour Law, Family etc then you have other Barristers that just have "General Practice" can anyone clarify this, im guessing it means they do all areas of the law as opposed to specialising in one particular area?? why dont they put what they practice in? wonder if its just an admin. thing?

    thanks

    The website listings of practice areas, circuits and specialisations is misleading at best. Many of the people who specify a certain area are stating that they want to specialise in those areas, meanwhile people who have big practices in that area don't really need to advertise it.

    General Practice usually means a bit of PI, a bit of contracts, a bit of licencing, the odd drunk driving and the occasional bit of opiniony stuff. It's sort of like saying that they practice the type of law that the average citizen requires from time to time.


  • #38
    legaleagle10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭legaleagle10


    Hi, I didnt realise that? That widens my scope of people to call actually. I thought when nothing was listed it was better to go for someone who had a long list of what they practice. Thanks for that


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    The website listings of practice areas, circuits and specialisations is misleading at best. Many of the people who specify a certain area are stating that they want to specialise in those areas, meanwhile people who have big practices in that area don't really need to advertise it.

    General Practice usually means a bit of PI, a bit of contracts, a bit of licencing, the odd drunk driving and the occasional bit of opiniony stuff. It's sort of like saying that they practice the type of law that the average citizen requires from time to time.


  • #39
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    The website listings of practice areas, circuits and specialisations is misleading at best. Many of the people who specify a certain area are stating that they want to specialise in those areas, meanwhile people who have big practices in that area don't really need to advertise it.

    General Practice usually means a bit of PI, a bit of contracts, a bit of licencing, the odd drunk driving and the occasional bit of opiniony stuff. It's sort of like saying that they practice the type of law that the average citizen requires from time to time.
    +1

    I just updated mine in the hopes it would bring in some more work, but it's unlikely :P

    I think most people 5+ years call who have work aren't bothered by their Bar Council profile and those that don't have bigger fish to fry.
    Not to mention that you have to email to amend the profile and if you want to list specific practice specialisations they require you to fill out a form and sign & return it.


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