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No fixed abode

  • 27-01-2011 5:54pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Something I've wondered about for a while and now with a General election on the way; how do travellers vote and pay taxes if they have no fixed abode, does anyone know?

    Is there a central PO box for travellers so they can get their Passports and other documents forwarded on or do they have a main listed residence?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭bigwormbundoran


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Something I've wondered about for a while and now with a General election on the way; how do travellers vote and pay taxes if they have no fixed abode, does anyone know?

    Is there a central PO box for travellers so they can get their Passports and other documents forwarded on or do they have a main listed residence?

    BAHAHAHAHA!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    BAHAHAHAHA!!!

    They pay Road Tax on their vehicles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    they pay taxes through their employer like everyone else. they pay taxes on the goods and services like everyone else. thats all im saying on this before it degenerates into the usual ignorant **** throwing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭macquarie


    they pay taxes through their employer like everyone else. they pay taxes on the goods and services like everyone else. thats all im saying on this before it degenerates into the usual ignorant **** throwing

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    they pay taxes through their employer like everyone else. they pay taxes on the goods and services like everyone else. thats all im saying on this before it degenerates into the usual ignorant **** throwing

    Who's their employer and what is his address?
    Da big boss man, side o' the road oirland.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Is there a central PO box for travellers so they can get their Passports and other documents forwarded on or do they have a main listed residence?

    There's train their dogs as couriers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭flyton5


    Queue traveller bashing....

    I might say goodbye to everyone now before I'm banned...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    While doing some work I came across a very nice traveller human - nice tax paying fellow he was unlike the other 99.99999999999999999%


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭Cunning Stunt


    Sorry to deviate from the traveller bashing :rolleyes:.... but is there still no system in place to allow Irish people living abroad to vote? I wanna help get rid of FF :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    They are screwed now with the new Commercial tax rules. You need to produce a tax cert , signed by the Garda to change ownership of a van now. Or pay at the private tax rate.

    A tinker asked me about it one day, I had the form and showed it to him. He could not read so I read it to him.
    He was very worried indeed.

    PS. Every week I get approached by them at some stage wanting to buy my hiace. It usually ends in a discussion about road tax.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Sorry to deviate from the traveller bashing :rolleyes:.... but is there still no system in place to allow Irish people living abroad to vote? I wanna help get rid of FF :mad:

    There was a recent thread on this...thinks it's only possible For members of the defence forces/garda etc who will be abroad at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    Sorry to deviate from the traveller bashing :rolleyes:.... but is there still no system in place to allow Irish people living abroad to vote? I wanna help get rid of FF :mad:

    I think theres some sort of "proxy vote" system in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Something I've wondered about for a while and now with a General election on the way; how do travellers vote and pay taxes if they have no fixed abode, does anyone know?

    Is there a central PO box for travellers so they can get their Passports and other documents forwarded on or do they have a main listed residence?

    [ignores usual anti-Traveller crapology]

    Very few Travellers these days are truly nomadic. Most will have halting site addresses even if they do travel for some of the year or will have a family member living permanently on a halting site or in a house. In the latter situation, they are no different to the many country people who study/work/live for most of the year in the city but come 'home' at the weekends/summer holidays/to vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    So, how do they tax their commercial vehicles? Are they all registered as businesses? If they are how come 65% of them are registered unemployed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭upmeath


    Very few Travellers these days are truly nomadic. Most will have halting site addresses

    True, any of the gated halt sites you see in big towns these days are postal addresses. They're almost invariably called "St. (Insert much-revered saint's name here)'s Park" and each family resides at Bay X.
    If you read the court summons* in provincial newspapers, there beside your neighbour who got done for speeding, public disorder or illegal dumping you'll find A.N. Other of Bay 7, St. James' Park, Newcastle upon Tyne.

    * = Disclaimer: I'm using this example simply as a means of demonstrating a traveller's address. Some on the PC brigade will tell me I'm drawing a stereotype of criminality into it, I'm not - I mentioned your speeding neighbour too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    TheZohan wrote: »
    They pay Road Tax on their vehicles.

    Theres no such thing as Road Tax in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Tonyandthewhale


    Yup, tis motor tax isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    c0rk3r wrote: »
    Theres no such thing as Road Tax in Ireland

    Thanks.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,129 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Yup, tis motor tax isn't it?

    Yes, so's they don't have to waste it on insignificant things like roads.:(


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If you were a registered sex-offender you can put your address down as No fixed abode. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    Mickey: The deal was you bought it like you saw it. Hey, look, I've helped you as much as I'm going to help you. See that car? Just use it for you're not welcome anymore. You should fcuk off now while you still got the legs to carry ya.

    Tommy: Sorry, Mickey. Just give our money back and you can keep the caravan.

    Mickey: Why the fcuk do I want a caravan that's got no fcuking wheels?


    Twas a great movie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Gordon Gecko


    upmeath wrote: »
    True, any of the gated halt sites you see in big towns these days are postal addresses. They're almost invariably called "St. (Insert much-revered saint's name here)'s Park" and each family resides at Bay X.
    If you read the court summons* in provincial newspapers, there beside your neighbour who got done for speeding, public disorder or illegal dumping you'll find A.N. Other of Bay 7, St. James' Park, Newcastle upon Tyne.

    * = Disclaimer: I'm using this example simply as a means of demonstrating a traveller's address. Some on the PC brigade will tell me I'm drawing a stereotype of criminality into it, I'm not - I mentioned your speeding neighbour too.

    I think it's disgraceful that you've immediately reverted to the stereotype of criminality! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    They don't need a motor tax disk

    A Padre Pio sticker is the tax disk of choice for any good traveller


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    [ignores usual anti-Traveller crapology]

    Had many up close encounters?

    It ain't fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    TheZohan wrote: »
    They pay Road Tax on their vehicles.

    The old gray mare just ain't what she used to be.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    You innocent innocent poor soul.

    Innocent till the pikeys come at night and nick his lawnmower.. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Fully controversial insurance boss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    So, how do they tax their commercial vehicles? Are they all registered as businesses? If they are how come 65% of them are registered unemployed?


    Because 65% of them are mammies and babbees, boss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    they pay taxes through their employer like everyone else. they pay taxes on the goods and services like everyone else. thats all im saying on this before it degenerates into the usual ignorant **** throwing

    Jobs? Really?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    upmeath wrote: »
    If you read the court summons* in provincial newspapers, there beside your neighbour who got done for speeding, public disorder or illegal dumping you'll find A.N. Other of Bay 7, St. James' Park, Newcastlewest, Co. Limerick

    [

    Fixed that for you there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Had many up close encounters?

    It ain't fun.

    I've had plenty. I've had Traveller colleagues. They're no different to any of my other colleagues. I've also had bad experiences in life, but they were mostly caused by run of the mill scobes, not Travellers. Caught a Traveller dumping on our land once, that's the extent of my bad experiences with Travellers.

    I'm sure every bad experience you've had in life wasn't caused by Travellers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Jobs? Really?
    Really.


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