Canon 5D mark 3?

What? Oh Rly!

There is a few posts on Canon Rumors that indicate a canon 5d mark 3 or 6d could be released before the end of the year. Anybody hear anything about this?

I'd say this camera with be absolutely amazing!!

the_monkey

I have been hearing this rumour for a while now, I reckon if it is this year it will be late 2011, even early 2012, seems like the mk II is still fairly new , I wonder will the price be more or less the same as when the mkII was released, and if shops will take a trade in

Promac

Mark ii is still flying off shelves so there's no point in Canon doing a mark iii.

What? Oh Rly!

Promac wrote: »

Mark ii is still flying off shelves so there's no point in Canon doing a mark iii.

Where did you get this data from. (Not being smart, genuinely interested).

And if so, I'd say the mark ii will obviously have a nice price cut and the mark iii will go for about 3k - 4k? I think canon have an idea about this game and what they're doing

Zillah

Go away, Canon is already too far ahead and I have too many Nikon lenses.

Promac

What? Oh Rly! wrote: »

Where did you get this data from. (Not being smart, genuinely interested).

And if so, I'd say the mark ii will obviously have a nice price cut and the mark iii will go for about 3k - 4k? I think canon have an idea about this game and what they're doing

I just bought one recently and they're in such high demand they keep going out of stock everywhere.

charybdis

I can say with a fairly high degree of certainty that Canon will release new cameras at some point in the future.

Beyond that, speculation is meaningless. Buy what you want now, or not. I suggest you wait for the 5D Mk. IX, it'll probably be amazing.

Promac wrote: »

Mark ii is still flying off shelves so there's no point in Canon doing a mark iii.

New products are not solely determined by whether or not a current model is selling well. Arguably, the worst reason to release a new product is because the current version is selling poorly.

gloobag

The rumor is, that the 5DmkIII will be taking over from the 1DS model (Canons high end full frame body). If that's the case, expect it to be ridiculously expensive. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the improvements are focused on the video side of things.

Ciaran500

Zillah wrote: »

Go away, Canon is already too far ahead and I have too many Nikon lenses.

In what way?

oshead

The biggest improvement they can make is with the Auto Focus system. The center spot is fine but the rest are abysmal. I wonder why they can't do it with a firmware upgrade of the MkII. Is it not just an algorithm? Or something on the sensor itself???? At least make it as sensitive as the 7D or 60D.

charybdis

oshead wrote: »

The biggest improvement they can make is with the Auto Focus system. The center spot is fine but the rest are abysmal. I wonder why they can't do it with a firmware upgrade of the MkII. Is it not just an algorithm? Or something on the sensor itself???? At least make it as sensitive as the 7D or 60D.

Autofocus point sensitivity is a hardware property, not something that can easily be changed through firmware.

Zillah

Ciaran500 wrote: »

In what way?

Video mostly. 7D can give 1080p30 or 720p60, whereas the D7000 can do 1080p24 or 720p25. Not the end of the world but the Canon technology is definitely ahead on that front.

D7000 is glorious in all other ways though.

charybdis

Zillah wrote: »

Video mostly. 7D can give 1080p30 or 720p60, whereas the D7000 can do 1080p24 or 720p25. Not the end of the world but the Canon technology is definitely ahead on that front.

D7000 is glorious in all other ways though.

I don't think you've got your resolutions/framerates correct there, but either way 1080/24p is far more preferable than 1080/30p (particularly as it's a hard 30 and not 29.97, which would also be a pain in the ass albeit only slightly less so).

stcstc

24p is a cinema frame rate and works very well apart from for quick moving horizontal movement

as the movement can sometimes seem to stagger

30p is just a compromise to get close to true NTSC frame rate of 29.97. and is just easier to acomplish

the other issue apart from picture quality is to do with audio and pull down when converting to a video framerate for playback on your tv

dvd's can do inverse telecine, some do it well some dont

Zillah

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you've got your resolutions/framerates correct there

Yes I do.

Maximum framerate for D7000 at 1080 is 24fps, at 720 it is 25 (or 30 if it's set to NTSC). 7D can push it to 30fps at 1080 or 60fps at 720.

Don't get me wrong, I own a D7000 and I'm happy to use 24fps, but I would like the option for higher frame rates. You can downgrade to a lower frame rate relatively easily in editing, going up has to manufacture extra frames to fill the gap. 60fps at 720 is particularly useful if you want to slow down any footage and keep it looking nice and smooth.

The fact of the matter is that the 7D is technologically superior, it can do everything the D7000 can do for video whereas the inverse is not true. We can debate the ramifications of that all night if you like but my observation was on the capabilities of the technology.

oshead

charybdis wrote: »

Autofocus point sensitivity is a hardware property, not something that can easily be changed through firmware.

Yeah, I guess I was grasping at straws. I've since been doing a little bit of reading, Lens Work III. The auto focus points are located in the floor of the mirror box.

pullandbang

Autofocus on the 1Ds is light years ahead of the 5D's so can't see them dropping the ID's for a new 5DIII

ThOnda

Personally, I think that there'll be 5D MkIII as an update and possibly 5DM - movie specialised body. There are rumors about one series body that won't have video to allow still photography in venues where copyright does not allow cinematography. So why not to split prosumer bodies into separate branches too?

the_monkey

gloobag wrote: »

The rumor is, that the 5DmkIII will be taking over from the 1DS model (Canons high end full frame body). If that's the case, expect it to be ridiculously expensive. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the improvements are focused on the video side of things.

I really hope not ! be way out of my budget, if this is the case what will be the replacement (as in same budget range) of the 5DII ? 7DII full frame ?

the_monkey

More rumours saying that we will probably see a 5DMKIII soon and no news on a 1Ds MK IV - I hope this doesn't mean that this will be the flagship camera, would like to see a new SLR in the same price range as the 5dii ....

Not that I am looking to get a mkiii (yet), the mkii is perfect for me

AnimalRights

the_monkey wrote: »

Not that I am looking to get a mkiii (yet), the mkii is perfect for me

The AF sucks.
My only gripe with it.

daycent

AnimalRights wrote: »

The AF sucks.
My only gripe with it.

Indeed, it's piss poor for a camera of it's price and quality.

the_monkey

yeah, i did feel a bit cheated when i saw the superior AF on the 7d...

jaybeeveedub

maybe its just me, and that I like to shoot wide open, but i have never used anything other than the center af spot, so its always me who decides where the focus is, not the camera, a tilt toward manual focus, without having to I suppose!!

daycent

jaybeeveedub wrote: »

maybe its just me, and that I like to shoot wide open, but i have never used anything other than the center af spot, so its always me who decides where the focus is, not the camera, a tilt toward manual focus, without having to I suppose!!

I'm not following you....?

What I mean is; In low light it's hard for the autofocus to "lock on", using any focus point......